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« Reply #4450 on: June 15, 2021, 08:45:23 AM »

Confirmed what already could be expected:

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« Reply #4451 on: June 15, 2021, 10:51:58 AM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 6/14 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE:What's the overall change in the total?

Brackets []: These represent the total change for the day, including backlogged reports, if any.
  • These numbers are inflated relative to the actual reports for the day, so they are not used to calculate the comparative percentage shifts.

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6/6: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 34,210,782 (+6,408 [+7,023] | ΔW Change: ↓17.32% | Σ Increase: ↑0.02%)
  • Deaths: 612,366 (+166 | ΔW Change: ↑33.87% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)

6/7 (Last Week Holiday): <M>
  • Cases: 34,227,237 (+12,283 [+16,455] | ΔW Change: ↑50.99% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 612,701 (+335 | ΔW Change: ↑153.79% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

6/8: <T>
  • Cases: 34,242,866 (+13,542 [+15,629] | ΔW Change: ↑4.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 613,052 (+351 | ΔW Change: ↑22.30% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)

6/9: <W>
  • Cases: 34,264,727 (+14,201 [+21,861] | ΔW Change: ↓16.34% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)
  • Deaths: 613,494 (+442 | ΔW Change: ↓14.00% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

6/10: <Þ>
  • Cases: 34,275,437 (+10,710 | ΔW Change: ↓59.51% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)
  • Deaths: 613,906 (+412 | ΔW Change: ↓24.82% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

6/11: <F>
  • Cases: 34,306,280 (+15,928 [+30,843] | ΔW Change: ↓5.89% | Σ Increase: ↑0.09%)
  • Deaths: 614,732 (+421 [+826] | ΔW Change: ↑70.45% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

6/12: <S>
  • Cases: 34,315,867 (+9,587 | ΔW Change: ↓18.31% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)
  • Deaths: 615,037 (+305 | ΔW Change: ↓20.78% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

6/13 (Yesterday): <Sunday>
  • Cases: 34,321,093 (+5,226 | ΔW Change: ↓18.45% | Σ Increase: ↑0.02%)
  • Deaths: 615,053 (+16 | ΔW Change: ↓90.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.00%)

6/14 (Today): <M>
  • Cases: 34,334,299 (+7,310 [+13,206] | ΔW Change: ↓40.49% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 615,263 (+106 [+210] | ΔW Change: ↓68.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)

According to your tracker, we crossed the 600,000 mark almost a month ago, on May 16. However, the media has been reporting that we just crossed that mark this week, and Congress held a ceremony on the steps of the U.S. Capitol yesterday to mourn over this milestone. They must be relying upon a different tracker than the one you've employed here. What explains this discrepancy?
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« Reply #4452 on: June 15, 2021, 12:10:02 PM »



We had dreadful leadership. We had a President with a dismissive attitude toward humanity, someone who believes that Homo oeconomicus is a norm and that anything else is a pariah. Even to be of any interest at all, one must be something else. Life is more than reward and punishment in return for making others filthy-rich or even more filthy-rich. Donald Trump doesn't understand human nature except for animal-level drives. This said, I have known dogs and parrots much more human than Donald Trump.

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« Reply #4453 on: June 15, 2021, 02:31:23 PM »


Maybe we're finally ready to puncture the conspiracy of silence surrounding how this happened and stop blaming ordinary Americans who struggled with demands that they put their lives on hold for a year.

I don't understand what one of these things has to do with the other.  Should we have taken different preventative measures had we known it was a lab leak?
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« Reply #4454 on: June 15, 2021, 02:47:35 PM »

Also it probably was not a lab leak, despite Stewart's monologue. The name of the lab is irrelevant. There are hundreds of virus labs, it's not that much of a coincidence there would be one in the large city where the pandemic starts. A once remote possibility is made slightly less remote by the 3 workers who were sick (during a flu outbreak).
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« Reply #4455 on: June 15, 2021, 02:57:51 PM »

The Wuhan Institute of Virology was one of only a handful of labs doing the relevant kind of research.

Assuming the virus is artificially selected and not naturally selected yes.

Nobody should be getting worked up about masks now, but I think there was a time when it was appropriate, no matter how the pandemic started.
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« Reply #4456 on: June 15, 2021, 02:58:42 PM »

The topic certainly shouldn't have been taboo for the past year, but I don't see what Stewart's monologue has to do with it. His entire argument is that the name of the lab is the "Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab", but is that really true that there is a lab (presumably a department of WIV) that is called that? All web search results for that only point back to links on Stewart's own monologue.

It's important to note that there is no direct evidence of how COVID-19 started, or that there has been any coverup over how it started. There is circumstantial evidence but it doesn't all point in the same direction. For instance, SARS-1 is of natural origin and came from the same region of the world, so wouldn't be too surprising if another naturally originated coronavirus did as well.

I'll add that if you really care about learning the truth and preventing future pandemics, politicizing the issue and emphasizing blame, especially against actors whose help you want to investigate the causes and change their behavior, doesn't help. If countries conclude that being the origin of a pandemic is going to get them blamed for it, then they won't have the incentive to identify novel viruses at an early stage or honestly investigate them openly.
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« Reply #4457 on: June 15, 2021, 03:08:40 PM »

The Wuhan Institute of Virology was one of only a handful of labs doing the relevant kind of research.

Assuming the virus is artificially selected and not naturally selected yes.

Nobody should be getting worked up about masks now, but I think there was a time when it was appropriate, no matter how the pandemic started.

There certainly was a time, and that time, in my view, has passed. Personally, I don't fully understand why a mask mandate remains in place for travel, particularly since mask requirements have been dispensed with at many festivals, concerts, and other types of large indoors and outdoors gatherings. Perhaps one for international travel is still needed, but surely not for domestic. And I'm not sure how much longer the media will continue to hype up the emergence of new "variants" of the virus. The "Delta" variant is the latest one which has garnered a considerable amount of attention.
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« Reply #4458 on: June 15, 2021, 03:24:42 PM »

I don't think it should have ever been "taboo" (I'm not entirely sure that was the case) but I also don't think it's gained much credibility either. However, for a year there definitely was a very vocal minority on social media that thought the disease was some kind of false flag, perpetrated by Bill Gates, Fauci, and/or others. Some of that may have been to push back against that entire narrative, specially since we've known since last March that the virus is not engineered.
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« Reply #4459 on: June 15, 2021, 04:16:11 PM »

The Wuhan Institute of Virology was one of only a handful of labs doing the relevant kind of research.

Assuming the virus is artificially selected and not naturally selected yes.

Nobody should be getting worked up about masks now, but I think there was a time when it was appropriate, no matter how the pandemic started.

There certainly was a time, and that time, in my view, has passed. Personally, I don't fully understand why a mask mandate remains in place for travel, particularly since mask requirements have been dispensed with at many festivals, concerts, and other types of large indoors and outdoors gatherings. Perhaps one for international travel is still needed, but surely not for domestic. And I'm not sure how much longer the media will continue to hype up the emergence of new "variants" of the virus. The "Delta" variant is the latest one which has garnered a considerable amount of attention.
The variants can matter if they have strong ability to resist the vaccine. Delta seems to be only a bit more resistant than Alpha (the original variant we were worrying about back in January) and after two doses, Pfizer still has 88% efficacy against it (compared to 92 against alpha and 95 against the conventional)
I was more concerned about Beta, but for some reason, that one appears to not be spreading so much. Maybe in some ways, we should be grateful for the Alpha variant in that it may have stolen oxygen from the more worrisome Beta one.
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« Reply #4460 on: June 15, 2021, 05:13:24 PM »
« Edited: June 15, 2021, 05:21:35 PM by Roll Roons »

House Republicans urge Pelosi to open up the Capitol: shorturl.at/cfCK9

I know this letter has some unsavory signatories (MTG, Clyde, Good, Gohmert), but I completely agree with the premise. If some idiot gets sick because they refused to get vaccinated, that's entirely on them at this point. Keeping the Capitol closed is nothing but pointless theater.
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« Reply #4461 on: June 15, 2021, 07:04:19 PM »

After seeing that… Stewart 2024? (Or 2028?)

I’m still thinking he could win in a landslide. Probably would have a better chance of winning back average Joes and blue collar workers than any actual Democratic politician, certainly Kamala Harris. And the man’s rhetorical skills still are clearly godlike. He certainly does have the potential to be a great politician if he really wanted it. I still think he should have primaried Menendez, that was his perfect opening. Despite all his denials of interest in running, I even wishfully thought at the time part of the reason he was retiring might have been to prepare for a future run.
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« Reply #4462 on: June 15, 2021, 07:08:19 PM »

Stewart could be a solid president. Apparently Mark Levin absolutely despises him and has for decades which is a sure sign he's doing something right.
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« Reply #4463 on: June 15, 2021, 07:56:36 PM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 6/15 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE:What's the overall change in the total?

Brackets []: These represent the total change for the day, including backlogged reports, if any.
  • These numbers are inflated relative to the actual reports for the day, so they are not used to calculate the comparative percentage shifts.

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6/6: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 34,210,782 (+6,408 [+7,023] | ΔW Change: ↓17.32% | Σ Increase: ↑0.02%)
  • Deaths: 612,366 (+166 | ΔW Change: ↑33.87% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)

6/7 (Last Week Holiday): <M>
  • Cases: 34,227,237 (+12,283 [+16,455] | ΔW Change: ↑50.99% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 612,701 (+335 | ΔW Change: ↑153.79% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

6/8: <T>
  • Cases: 34,242,866 (+13,542 [+15,629] | ΔW Change: ↑4.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 613,052 (+351 | ΔW Change: ↑22.30% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)

6/9: <W>
  • Cases: 34,264,727 (+14,201 [+21,861] | ΔW Change: ↓16.34% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)
  • Deaths: 613,494 (+442 | ΔW Change: ↓14.00% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

6/10: <Þ>
  • Cases: 34,275,437 (+10,710 | ΔW Change: ↓59.51% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)
  • Deaths: 613,906 (+412 | ΔW Change: ↓24.82% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

6/11: <F>
  • Cases: 34,306,280 (+15,928 [+30,843] | ΔW Change: ↓5.89% | Σ Increase: ↑0.09%)
  • Deaths: 614,732 (+421 [+826] | ΔW Change: ↑70.45% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

6/12: <S>
  • Cases: 34,315,867 (+9,587 | ΔW Change: ↓18.31% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)
  • Deaths: 615,037 (+305 | ΔW Change: ↓20.78% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

6/13: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 34,321,093 (+5,226 | ΔW Change: ↓18.45% | Σ Increase: ↑0.02%)
  • Deaths: 615,053 (+16 | ΔW Change: ↓90.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.00%)

6/14 (Yesterday): <M>
  • Cases: 34,334,299 (+7,310 [+13,206] | ΔW Change: ↓40.49% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 615,263 (+106 [+210] | ΔW Change: ↓68.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)

6/15 (Today): <T>
  • Cases: 34,351,363 (+11,884 [+17,064] | ΔW Change: ↓12.24% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 615,703 (+341 [+440] | ΔW Change: ↓2.85% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)
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« Reply #4464 on: June 15, 2021, 07:59:32 PM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 6/15 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE:What's the overall change in the total?

Brackets []: These represent the total change for the day, including backlogged reports, if any.
  • These numbers are inflated relative to the actual reports for the day, so they are not used to calculate the comparative percentage shifts.

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6/6: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 34,210,782 (+6,408 [+7,023] | ΔW Change: ↓17.32% | Σ Increase: ↑0.02%)
  • Deaths: 612,366 (+166 | ΔW Change: ↑33.87% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)

6/7 (Last Week Holiday): <M>
  • Cases: 34,227,237 (+12,283 [+16,455] | ΔW Change: ↑50.99% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 612,701 (+335 | ΔW Change: ↑153.79% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

6/8: <T>
  • Cases: 34,242,866 (+13,542 [+15,629] | ΔW Change: ↑4.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 613,052 (+351 | ΔW Change: ↑22.30% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)

6/9: <W>
  • Cases: 34,264,727 (+14,201 [+21,861] | ΔW Change: ↓16.34% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)
  • Deaths: 613,494 (+442 | ΔW Change: ↓14.00% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

6/10: <Þ>
  • Cases: 34,275,437 (+10,710 | ΔW Change: ↓59.51% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)
  • Deaths: 613,906 (+412 | ΔW Change: ↓24.82% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

6/11: <F>
  • Cases: 34,306,280 (+15,928 [+30,843] | ΔW Change: ↓5.89% | Σ Increase: ↑0.09%)
  • Deaths: 614,732 (+421 [+826] | ΔW Change: ↑70.45% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

6/12: <S>
  • Cases: 34,315,867 (+9,587 | ΔW Change: ↓18.31% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)
  • Deaths: 615,037 (+305 | ΔW Change: ↓20.78% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

6/13: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 34,321,093 (+5,226 | ΔW Change: ↓18.45% | Σ Increase: ↑0.02%)
  • Deaths: 615,053 (+16 | ΔW Change: ↓90.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.00%)

6/14 (Yesterday): <M>
  • Cases: 34,334,299 (+7,310 [+13,206] | ΔW Change: ↓40.49% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 615,263 (+106 [+210] | ΔW Change: ↓68.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)

6/15 (Today): <T>
  • Cases: 34,351,363 (+11,884 [+17,064] | ΔW Change: ↓12.24% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 615,703 (+341 [+440] | ΔW Change: ↓2.85% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

Did you see my question to you that I posted earlier?
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« Reply #4465 on: June 15, 2021, 08:03:32 PM »


Hi Calth. Yes, I saw it earlier on my phone and forgot to respond once I got back on my laptop, apologies.

The short answer is no; I don't know what might be causing such a big discrepancy between each of these sources. It might be that the media is only counting the 50 states, while Worldometers counts all of the U.S., including its territories and overseas military personnel. Perhaps that could account for it? This answer is, however, purely speculation, and I haven't had the time to delve deeper into the matter.

Does anyone else have a more thoroughly researched answer? What are your thoughts, Calth?
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« Reply #4466 on: June 15, 2021, 08:14:48 PM »


Hi Calth. Yes, I saw it earlier on my phone and forgot to respond once I got back on my laptop, apologies.

The short answer is no; I don't know what might be causing such a big discrepancy between each of these sources. It might be that the media is only counting the 50 states, while Worldometers counts all of the U.S., including its territories and overseas military personnel. Perhaps that could account for it? This answer is, however, purely speculation, and I haven't had the time to delve deeper into the matter.

Does anyone else have a more thoroughly researched answer? What are your thoughts, Calth?

I wouldn't know either, which is why I had asked you about it. But thanks for the insights about your tracker. I trust yours over whatever the other outlets have been using.
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« Reply #4467 on: June 15, 2021, 08:47:49 PM »

The media seems to use the Johns Hopkins count which has always been a bit further behind than Worldometers. I have no idea why though.
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« Reply #4468 on: June 15, 2021, 09:39:49 PM »


Hi Calth. Yes, I saw it earlier on my phone and forgot to respond once I got back on my laptop, apologies.

The short answer is no; I don't know what might be causing such a big discrepancy between each of these sources. It might be that the media is only counting the 50 states, while Worldometers counts all of the U.S., including its territories and overseas military personnel. Perhaps that could account for it? This answer is, however, purely speculation, and I haven't had the time to delve deeper into the matter.

Does anyone else have a more thoroughly researched answer? What are your thoughts, Calth?

I wouldn't know either, which is why I had asked you about it. But thanks for the insights about your tracker. I trust yours over whatever the other outlets have been using.

Could people be lying?
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« Reply #4469 on: June 15, 2021, 09:44:26 PM »


Hi Calth. Yes, I saw it earlier on my phone and forgot to respond once I got back on my laptop, apologies.

The short answer is no; I don't know what might be causing such a big discrepancy between each of these sources. It might be that the media is only counting the 50 states, while Worldometers counts all of the U.S., including its territories and overseas military personnel. Perhaps that could account for it? This answer is, however, purely speculation, and I haven't had the time to delve deeper into the matter.

Does anyone else have a more thoroughly researched answer? What are your thoughts, Calth?

I wouldn't know either, which is why I had asked you about it. But thanks for the insights about your tracker. I trust yours over whatever the other outlets have been using.

Could people be lying?

I wouldn't be surprised. But of course, there's also been a running dispute with regards to the classification of coronavirus deaths, and many death reports have noted that a person died "with Covid", which might complicate the count. On the whole, however, I believe that the statistics which we have are reliable and as accurate as they can be.
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« Reply #4470 on: June 16, 2021, 09:03:03 AM »

The media seems to use the Johns Hopkins count which has always been a bit further behind than Worldometers. I have no idea why though.

I was watching CBS This Morning, and they were repeating their assertion that we just crossed the 600,000 mark. They specifically cited Johns Hopkins University as their statistical source.
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« Reply #4471 on: June 16, 2021, 10:21:05 AM »

After seeing that… Stewart 2024? (Or 2028?)

I’m still thinking he could win in a landslide. Probably would have a better chance of winning back average Joes and blue collar workers than any actual Democratic politician, certainly Kamala Harris. And the man’s rhetorical skills still are clearly godlike. He certainly does have the potential to be a great politician if he really wanted it. I still think he should have primaried Menendez, that was his perfect opening. Despite all his denials of interest in running, I even wishfully thought at the time part of the reason he was retiring might have been to prepare for a future run.

Ooh, back to 2008! This is fun.
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« Reply #4472 on: June 16, 2021, 11:57:23 AM »

Have we really not learned anything about running TV stars for President?
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« Reply #4473 on: June 16, 2021, 01:54:27 PM »

Have we really not learned anything about running TV stars for President?


This.

I don't want any celebrity within an inch of political office again.
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« Reply #4474 on: June 16, 2021, 02:53:38 PM »

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Royal Caribbean International is postponing for nearly a month one of the highly anticipated first sailings from the U.S. since the pandemic began because eight crew members tested positive for COVID-19, the company’s CEO said.

The brand-new Odyssey of the Seas was to set sail from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, on July 3 but is now postponed to July 31. Royal Caribbean International’s CEO Michael Bayley said late Tuesday on Facebook the decision had been made “out of an abundance of caution,” adding the company is also rescheduling a simulation cruise scheduled for late June.

https://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/covid-19-cases-delay-long-awaited-royal-caribbean-cruise/XU54SBDBI5BCTC2OGMGHA2A5BY/
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