COVID-19 Megathread 5: The Trumps catch COVID-19

[Frodo]

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1265346766997803008

Why is that odd? 

[Progressive Pessimist]

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1265346766997803008

Why is that odd? 

Because they're reaching for anything that could stick to Biden and make him look bad. Somehow this is the most desperate and pathetic attempt yet.

[NewYorkExpress]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rats-aggressive-rodents-increasing-restaurants-closed-coronavirus-pandemic/

Stay-at-home orders in many areas of the country may lead to an increase in rats and "aggressive rodent behavior," the CDC warns. Because many restaurants are closed or doing reduced business for takeout and delivery, rats that once relied on food and waste generated by these establishments are going hungry and seeking out new food sources.


"Community-wide closures have led to a decrease in food available to rodents, especially in dense commercial areas," the CDC says on its updated rodent control page. "Some jurisdictions have reported an increase in rodent activity as rodents search for new sources of food. Environmental health and rodent control programs may see an increase in service requests related to rodents and reports of unusual or aggressive rodent behavior."

I guess I won't be going to the local restaurant after the stay-at-home orders are officially lifted where I am.

[Dr. Arch]

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 5/26 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

Δ Change: Day-by-day Growth or Decline or COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.

• IE: Are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.

• IE: What's the overall change in the total?

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5/10: <Sunday>

• Cases: 1,367,638 (+20,329 | Δ Change: ↓20.35% | Σ Increase: ↑1.93%)
• Deaths: 80,787 (+750 | Δ Change: ↓47.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.94%)

5/11:

• Cases: 1,385,834 (+18,196 | Δ Change: ↓10.49% | Σ Increase: ↑1.33%)
• Deaths: 81,795 (+1,008 | Δ Change: ↑34.40% | Σ Increase: ↑1.25%)

5/12:

• Cases: 1,408,155 (+22,321 | Δ Change: ↑22.67% | Σ Increase: ↑1.61%)
• Deaths: 83,377 (+1,582 | Δ Change: ↑56.94% | Σ Increase: ↑1.93%)

5/13:

• Cases: 1,430,348 (+22,193 | Δ Change: ↓0.57% | Σ Increase: ↑1.58%)
• Deaths: 85,197 (+1,820 | Δ Change: ↑15.44% | Σ Increase: ↑2.18%)

5/14:

• Cases: 1,456,828 (+26,480 | Δ Change: ↑19.32% | Σ Increase: ↑1.85%)
• Deaths: 86,901 (+1,704 | Δ Change: ↓6.37% | Σ Increase: ↑2.00%)

5/15 (Yesterday):

• Cases: 1,483,736 (+26,908 | Δ Change: ↑1.62% | Σ Increase: ↑1.85%)
• Deaths: 88,479 (+1,578 | Δ Change: ↓7.39% | Σ Increase: ↑1.82%)

5/16:

• Cases: 1,505,033 (+21,297 | Δ Change: ↓20.85% | Σ Increase: ↑1.44%)
• Deaths: 89,511 (+1,032 | Δ Change: ↓34.60% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)

5/17: <Sunday>

• Cases: 1,526,842 (+21,809 | Δ Change: ↑2.40% | Σ Increase: ↑1.44%)
• Deaths: 90,973 (+1,462 | Δ Change: ↑41.67% | Σ Increase: ↑1.45%)

5/18:

• Cases: 1,550,294 (+23,452 | Δ Change: ↑7.53% | Σ Increase: ↑1.54%)
• Deaths: 91,981 (+1,008 | Δ Change: ↓31.05% | Σ Increase: ↑1.11%)

5/19:

• Cases: 1,570,583 (+20,289 | Δ Change: ↓13.49% | Σ Increase: ↑1.31%)
• Deaths: 93,533 (+1,552 | Δ Change: ↑53.97% | Σ Increase: ↑1.69%)

5/20:

• Cases: 1,591,991 (+21,408 | Δ Change: ↑5.52% | Σ Increase: ↑1.36%)
• Deaths: 94,994 (+1,461 | Δ Change: ↓5.86% | Σ Increase: ↑1.56%)

5/21:

• Cases: 1,620,902 (+28,911 | Δ Change: ↑35.05% | Σ Increase: ↑1.82%)
• Deaths: 96,354 (+1,360 | Δ Change: ↓6.91% | Σ Increase: ↑1.43%)

5/22:

• Cases: 1,645,094 (+24,192 | Δ Change: ↓16.32% | Σ Increase: ↑1.49%)
• Deaths: 97,647 (+1,293 | Δ Change: ↓4.93% | Σ Increase: ↑1.34%)

5/23:

• Cases: 1,666,828 (+21,734 | Δ Change: ↓10.16% | Σ Increase: ↑1.32%)
• Deaths: 98,683 (+1,036 | Δ Change: ↓19.88% | Σ Increase: ↑1.06%)

5/24: <Sunday>

• Cases: 1,686,436 (+19,608 | Δ Change: ↓9.78% | Σ Increase: ↑1.18%)
• Deaths: 99,300 (+617 | Δ Change: ↓40.44% | Σ Increase: ↑0.63%)

5/25 (Yesterday):

• Cases: 1,706,224 (+19,788 | Δ Change: ↑0.92% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)
• Deaths: 99,805 (+505 | Δ Change: ↓18.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.51%)

5/26 (Today):

• Cases: 1,725,141 (+18,917 | Δ Change: ↓4.40% | Σ Increase: ↑1.11%)
• Deaths: 100,579 (+774 | Δ Change: ↑53.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.78%)

[Virginiá]

Only in America could a pandemic be considered a political issue

Republicans have been conditioned to treat every single criticism of Trump by Democrats as a political scheme to take him down. Even COVID-19, which is now treated as a serious issue by Trump himself and Republican leaders, and Trump himself who recommended shelter-in-place orders for over a month, is still decried as a political attack and as being blown out of proportion by Democrats.

Criticism of stay at home orders extends to both parties but continue your with set narrative

I didn't say criticism wasn't aimed at GOP governors as well. I just said that clearly there is a strain of thought going on in GOP circles that Democrats are trying to damage the economy to take down Trump. Examples:

https://thecitizen.com/2020/05/16/democrats-damaging-people-economy-out-of-trump-hatred/
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rush-limbaugh-democrats-hoping-destroy-trump-economy

I live and work in a Trump+24 county as well, so it's not exactly like I need to go far to hear this. With regards to my first post, the point was that virtually anything negative directed at Trump that is big enough to get picked up by conservative news seems to eventually be decried as a political scheme to take down Trump.

[7,052,770]

It must be an intentional stylistic choice for Biden's official Twitter pic to have the mask crooked, but I don't know why.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Say what you want about the Lincoln Project, they are putting their money where their mouth is.

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1265445036294111232

[Mr. Reactionary]

It must be an intentional stylistic choice for Biden's official Twitter pic to have the mask crooked, but I don't know why.

Like when I saw that, all I could think was that someone's blind, confused, old grandpa needed help adjusting his disheveled, oversized mask.

[Calthrina950]

Only in America could a pandemic be considered a political issue

Republicans have been conditioned to treat every single criticism of Trump by Democrats as a political scheme to take him down. Even COVID-19, which is now treated as a serious issue by Trump himself and Republican leaders, and Trump himself who recommended shelter-in-place orders for over a month, is still decried as a political attack and as being blown out of proportion by Democrats.

Criticism of stay at home orders extends to both parties but continue your with set narrative

I didn't say criticism wasn't aimed at GOP governors as well. I just said that clearly there is a strain of thought going on in GOP circles that Democrats are trying to damage the economy to take down Trump. Examples:

https://thecitizen.com/2020/05/16/democrats-damaging-people-economy-out-of-trump-hatred/
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rush-limbaugh-democrats-hoping-destroy-trump-economy

I live and work in a Trump+24 county as well, so it's not exactly like I need to go far to hear this. With regards to my first post, the point was that virtually anything negative directed at Trump that is big enough to get picked up by conservative news seems to eventually be decried as a political scheme to take down Trump.

You are correct when you say that many Republicans have utilized coronavirus as a partisan "baton", if you will, against Democrats, and that some have indulged in conspiracy theories to that end. However, I believe you misconstrued the overall point which yfnlucci was trying to make. Criticism "against GOP Governors" is not coming from the right alone; it is not solely the right that is agitating or protesting against Governors of both political parties. There are many people, both right-wing and left-wing, who are upset with Democratic Governors as well, to say nothing of Republican Governors. I think it is fair to say also, that there are many who initially supported the lockdown orders, but have turned against them in recent weeks because of the economic and other consequences which they have generated.

[Podgy the Bear]

It must be an intentional stylistic choice for Biden's official Twitter pic to have the mask crooked, but I don't know why.

Like when I saw that, all I could think was that someone's blind, confused, old grandpa needed help adjusting his disheveled, oversized mask.

Just keep pushing that kind of sentiment--and then you'll see why Trump is slipping badly with the over 65 group and why he's losing.

[Bidenworth2020]

Is everyone expected to make sure their masks are symmetrical on their face?

[7,052,770]

Is everyone expected to make sure their masks are symmetrical on their face?

I mean, I do? And I certainly would if it were going to be the main picture associated with a Twitter account with millions of followers.

I am probably overthinking it though. Maybe it makes him more "authentic."

[Del Tachi]

https://twitter.com/business/status/1262787624156254208?s=20

I mean, that was to be expected since the slowdown is global in nature.

[Landslide Lyndon]

https://twitter.com/business/status/1262787624156254208?s=20

I mean, that was to be expected since the slowdown is global in nature.

Norway and Finland went full lockdown, and yet they are expected to have more mild recessions than Sweden.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Is everyone expected to make sure their masks are symmetrical on their face?

It's basically the mask-wearing equivalent to the side grip (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side_grip).

Also see: Rule of Cool.

[Brittain33]

Are we ready for thread 6?

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1265598625075417088

[Koharu]

Are we ready for thread 6?

I think the mods are letting this get long to test if it does have an impact on performance.

[Gracile]

Illinois is currently the only state that meets all five of the federal government's guidelines to safely reopen businesses and ease social distancing:

https://americanindependent.com/states-coronavirus-criteria-reopen-donald-trump-illinois-pandemic-covid-19/

Here is ProPublica's analysis for each state:

https://projects.propublica.org/reopening-america/

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Illinois is currently the only state that meets all five of the federal government's guidelines to safely reopen businesses and ease social distancing:

https://americanindependent.com/states-coronavirus-criteria-reopen-donald-trump-illinois-pandemic-covid-19/

Here is ProPublica's analysis for each state:

https://projects.propublica.org/reopening-america/

I feel ike the metrics NY state is using are much better than those used here.
Among the problems:

- The last metric is declining flu hospitalizations.  Several states meet the first four metrics, but are judged as not having met this metric becasue hospitalization went from 0 to 0 (and thus not declining).  Obviously under this standard, this metric is impossible to meet if you never had any hospitalizations.

- The first metric is declining number of positive tests.  This would seems to disincentive increased testing, and I don’t know why it is necessary when the second metric is already declining test positivity rate.

- There’s to much emphasis on rates of change and not enough on overall per capita numbers.  A state that has gone from 10 case per million people to 11 cases per million is seen as in worse shape than a state that goes from 1000 cases per million to 990 cases per million.

The metric used in the New York state reopening dashboard are much better.  They don’t emphasize total cases, but instead emphasize health care, testing, and tracing capacity, and they allow states to meet metrics either by showing declining rates or very low absolute numbers.

[jimrtex]

- There’s to much emphasis on rates of change and not enough on overall per capita numbers.  A state that has gone from 10 case per million people to 11 cases per million is seen as in worse shape than a state that goes from 1000 cases per million to 990 cases per million.

A simple metric would be cases per million detected in last three weeks.

This would indicate the percentage of the population that could infect other persons (or were recently infected by other persons).

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Anybody who doesnt wear a mask in public places should be arrested for reckless endangerment. Plain and simple.
And no that's not fascism, it's called saving lives! Right wingers should be ashamed of themselves.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

And no, opposition to the lockdown orders is not merely confined to "Republicans" or to the "right". Even many left-leaning types and "Democrats" have become increasingly skeptical in recent weeks, and have disagreed with many of the actions which have been implemented.

I think it's no longer left versus right, but authoritarians (particularly the media) versus the rank-and-file.

No it's called people who want to save lives vs people who care more about going to a football game then protecting people around them!

[Calthrina950]

Anybody who doesnt wear a mask in public places should be arrested for reckless endangerment. Plain and simple.
And no that's not fascism, it's called saving lives! Right wingers should be ashamed of themselves.

This reeks of authoritarianism. And you wonder why Republicans have become increasingly opposed to the lockdown orders? I've made clear before that businesses should have the right to mandate masks, if they so wish, but that penalizing or fining people for not wearing them would be going too far. It's a shame that mask-wearing has become another flash point in our ongoing culture war, but so it has.

[It’s so Joever]

Anybody who doesnt wear a mask in public places should be arrested for reckless endangerment. Plain and simple.
And no that's not fascism, it's called saving lives! Right wingers should be ashamed of themselves.

No, just make sure they don’t get access to an ICU bed or a ventilator if they are a repeat offender and get sick. We can have them waive their rights to treatment if they break the laws. Besides, prisons can spread the disease rapidly and we don’t need to add to that mess.