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« Reply #1800 on: December 04, 2020, 10:35:51 PM »


The GA rally tomorrow will be crazy. There'll be so much rambling & whining about how he's such a victim. I expect very little mention of COVID & wouldn't be surprised if he even forgets that he's there to help Perdue/Loeffler.
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« Reply #1801 on: December 04, 2020, 10:44:32 PM »

Donald Trump is going to go down in history as such an incompetent failure and loser omg.
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« Reply #1802 on: December 04, 2020, 11:47:53 PM »

Trump fixated on his own political fate as virus kills record number of Americans

A day after the United States' coronavirus daily death toll nearly surpassed the number killed in the Sept. 11 attacks, President Donald Trump remained out of sight -- fixated not on the raging pandemic but rather on his own political fate.

The president made no public appearances Friday, a day after the United States recorded 2,879 Americans deaths caused by COVID-19, 217,664 confirmed cases of the virus and over 100,000 hospitalizations -- all records.

Trump has spent his waning days in office not focused on leading the United States through a historic, deadly crisis but rather fundraising for his future political endeavors and sowing doubt in the country's democratic foundations.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-fixated-political-fate-virus-kills-record-number/story?id=74536821

As I said a few weeks ago, Trump has no incentive to focus on the pandemic response now that he has lost reelection (and he didn't even give it the proper focus to begin with). He simply doesn't care about those Americans who are suffering and dying from it, even though he himself, along with his wife and two of his sons, have contracted and recovered from the virus-to say nothing about his many staffers, members of his cabinet, Republican politicians, etc. who have gotten it. Trump's behavior during this lame duck period has solidified his status as one of the worst Presidents in our history.
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« Reply #1803 on: December 05, 2020, 10:25:03 AM »

I don’t think the virus-truthers/down players understand what fire they played with here.

I could say this is really terrible over and over again, but there is no point, it’s far too late.
It’s not an if or even a model scenario, our hospitals across many parts of the country are and will be overwhelmed. Luckily most patients acutely only need oxygen at most which can be provided outside of the ICU, so the short term death toll won’t be as terrible as it would have been had this happened in March (and it would have if we acted as irresponsibly then, but I digress)
The problem isn’t even capacity, it’s labor. So many healthcare workers are getting sick and quarantining that ICU professionals (who are highly trained and specialized btw) are scarce in supply.
We can make more beds, but it takes years to train ICU professionals.

Short term, expect this economic bubble to deflate a bit and a lot of people you know to get sick (and die if they are old) Obviously our hospitals are screwed so do not put yourself in a scenario where you need to use the ER over the next few months (or try at least, because good luck with getting help)

Long term...this is why virus truthers should be really f**king terrified.
I have already talked extensively about long term damage, but they won’t believe it themselves no matter what. I will say that another side effect will be an even worse nurse shortage. America actually already had to import nurses because of our labor shortage in the field, but that will only get worse now. Just look at how nurses have been bashed around like toys by the “Conservative Party” (communist traitors to the union) who would want to be a nurse after all this?

This is the type of stuff which triggers revolutions and instability in former superpowers, and we are well down that other already, you people only accelerated it.

Look, my mother is a pulmonary researcher, our family will be very possibly end up financially better off after all of this since this virus is serious for that reason, but this is ridiculous. Please at least try to think of the long term consequences before you open your Mississippi mouth (or whichever awful state you hail from Wink)
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« Reply #1804 on: December 05, 2020, 11:03:57 AM »

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« Reply #1805 on: December 05, 2020, 12:03:30 PM »

I was reading a story about the surge in Iowa which has reported a combined 155 deaths on the 3rd and 4th and only 2 of those deaths are in Dec, the rest are lag from Nov. Though there's every reason to believe there are plenty of bodies in the pipeline.
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« Reply #1806 on: December 05, 2020, 08:11:41 PM »



how much longer will politicians expect they can have their rules be followed when they are making these decisions ?
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« Reply #1807 on: December 05, 2020, 08:18:22 PM »



how much longer will politicians expect they can have their rules be followed when they are making these decisions ?
Context?
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« Reply #1808 on: December 05, 2020, 08:38:02 PM »

I’d prefer mass flagellation.
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« Reply #1809 on: December 05, 2020, 08:42:45 PM »


how much longer will politicians expect they can have their rules be followed when they are making these decisions ?
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Outdoor dining is banned in Los Angeles, except apparently if you are making a big budget movie.
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« Reply #1810 on: December 05, 2020, 09:02:36 PM »


how much longer will politicians expect they can have their rules be followed when they are making these decisions ?
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Outdoor dining is banned in Los Angeles, except apparently if you are making a big budget movie.

Optics aside, it's guaranteed that the production staff on that movie will be tested at least once a week. They might also be bubbled or forced to quarantine at home during production.

How do I know? Because my father works for a production company and recently worked on something that required weekly testing and self quarantine.

It absolutely sucks that restaurants are hurting and I disagree with the ban on outdoor dining, but its not an apples to apples comparison.
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« Reply #1811 on: December 05, 2020, 09:31:24 PM »

I think outdoor dining should be allowed. Transmission is low outside.
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« Reply #1812 on: December 05, 2020, 09:34:30 PM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 12/5 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE: What's the overall change in the total?

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11/22: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 12,588,661 (+137,995 | ΔW Change: ↓1.67% | Σ Increase: ↑1.11%)
  • Deaths: 262,696 (+906 | ΔW Change: ↑57.29% | Σ Increase: ↑0.35%)

11/23: <M>
  • Cases: 12,777,174 (+188,513 | ΔW Change: ↑9.81% | Σ Increase: ↑1.50%)
  • Deaths: 263,687 (+991 | ΔW Change: ↑21.00% | Σ Increase: ↑0.38%)

11/24: <T>
  • Cases: 12,955,007 (+177,833 | ΔW Change: ↑12.91% | Σ Increase: ↑1.39%)
  • Deaths: 265,891 (+2,204 | ΔW Change: ↑37.58% | Σ Increase: ↑0.84%)

11/25: <W>
  • Cases: 13,137,962 (+182,955 | ΔW Change: ↑2.68% | Σ Increase: ↑1.41%)
  • Deaths: 268,219 (+2,328 | ΔW Change: ↑16.34% | Σ Increase: ↑0.88%)

11/26: <Þ-Holiday>
  • Cases: 13,248,676 (+110,714 | ΔW Change: ↓43.01% | Σ Increase: ↑0.84%)
  • Deaths: 269,555 (+1,336 | ΔW Change: ↓34.77% | Σ Increase: ↑0.50%)

11/27: <F>
  • Cases: 13,454,254 (+205,578 | ΔW Change: ↓0.55% | Σ Increase: ↑1.55%)
  • Deaths: 271,026 (+1,471 | ΔW Change: ↓25.74% | Σ Increase: ↑0.55%)

11/28: <S>
  • Cases: 13,610,357 (+156,103 | ΔW Change: ↓11.27% | Σ Increase: ↑1.16%)
  • Deaths: 272,254 (+1,228 | ΔW Change: ↓18.51% | Σ Increase: ↑0.45%)

11/29: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 13,750,404 (+140,047 | ΔW Change: ↑1.49% | Σ Increase: ↑1.03%)
  • Deaths: 273,072 (+818 | ΔW Change: ↓9.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.30%)

11/30: <M>
  • Cases: 13,919,870 (+169,466 | ΔW Change: ↓10.10% | Σ Increase: ↑1.23%)
  • Deaths: 274,332 (+1,260 | ΔW Change: ↑27.14% | Σ Increase: ↑0.46%)

12/1: <T>
  • Cases: 14,108,490 (+188,620 | ΔW Change: ↑6.07% | Σ Increase: ↑1.36%)
  • Deaths: 276,976 (+2,644 | ΔW Change: ↑19.96% | Σ Increase: ↑0.96%)

12/2: <W>
  • Cases: 14,313,941 (+205,451 | ΔW Change: ↑12.30% | Σ Increase: ↑1.46%)
  • Deaths: 279,865 (+2,889 | ΔW Change: ↑24.10% | Σ Increase: ↑1.04%)

12/3: <Þ-Last Þ Holiday>
  • Cases: 14,535,196 (+221,255 | ΔW Change: ↑99.84% | Σ Increase: ↑1.55%)
  • Deaths: 282,829 (+2,964 | ΔW Change: ↑121.83% | Σ Increase: ↑1.06%)

12/4 (Yesterday): <F>
  • Cases: 14,772,353 (+237,157 | ΔW Change: ↑15.36% | Σ Increase: ↑1.63%)
  • Deaths: 285,550 (+2,721 | ΔW Change: ↑84.98% | Σ Increase: ↑0.96%)

12/5 (Today): <S>
  • Cases: 14,983,425 (+211,072 | ΔW Change: ↑35.21% | Σ Increase: ↑1.43%)
  • Deaths: 287,825 (+2,275 | ΔW Change: ↑85.26% | Σ Increase: ↑0.80%)
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« Reply #1813 on: December 05, 2020, 09:34:57 PM »

And we're back in exponential growth territory again... -_-
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« Reply #1814 on: December 06, 2020, 04:22:47 AM »

These numbers are very disturbing and they're almost certainly going to be very disturbing for at least the next few months. Vaccines may be on the way, but production and distribution to the masses will take considerable time. The average person will probably be waiting until mid-to-late Spring. At this rate, I'm very concerned that the death toll could exceed the 1918 pandemic.

Unfortunately, the response and measures by government have been very lacking. This is really the moment for a shutdown of sit-down restaurants, bars, etc. The urgency is far greater than it was earlier this year, but at least there appears to be light at the end of the tunnel (and not an oncoming train). This is almost the ideal time for a large stimulus package, yet Congress is negotiating around a total garbage bill. If we're trying to keep the economy working, another round of stimulus checks would be a perfect idea in time for Christmas. Maybe reduce the income level from last time, but I think most households that make under six-figures total income would greatly appreciate the money. But overall, the pandemic is at its worst ever and getting worse and the responses by government are going the other way.
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« Reply #1815 on: December 06, 2020, 10:51:49 AM »

The good thing about vaccine distribution is that we don’t need to vaccinate the general public inorder to reduce deaths to a tiny fraction of what we see today. 

97% of covid deaths come from people over 50.  Almost all of those under 50 have a serious prexisting conditions.  So given that those demographics will be vaccinated around February, we should see deaths drop by 90% or more as long as vulnerable people are willing to get the vaccine.
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« Reply #1816 on: December 06, 2020, 03:36:04 PM »

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« Reply #1817 on: December 06, 2020, 04:05:40 PM »

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« Reply #1818 on: December 06, 2020, 07:12:54 PM »



Giuliani is the mascot of the  of this year. He encompasses almost everything that was terrible about it. The only thing that he hasn't had happen to him is get stung by a murder hornet.
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« Reply #1819 on: December 06, 2020, 08:44:50 PM »

I think outdoor dining should be allowed. Transmission is low outside.
Agreed, although winter is not a great time to outdoor dine.
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« Reply #1820 on: December 06, 2020, 09:16:16 PM »

Arch, why are your numbers so different than Worldometer? It showed 174k for today.
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« Reply #1821 on: December 06, 2020, 09:17:25 PM »

Arch, why are your numbers so different than Worldometer? It showed 174k for today.

I haven't done today yet.
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« Reply #1822 on: December 06, 2020, 09:37:06 PM »

I think outdoor dining should be allowed. Transmission is low outside.

I wish more people understood this--as long as you're far enough apart and not in any sort of enclosed area, and masked, there's significantly less risk posed than these politicians are posing by flouting their own guidelines or giving special exceptions--and outdoors you don't have to worry about it spreading through the HVAC duct work.
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« Reply #1823 on: December 06, 2020, 10:21:31 PM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 12/6 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE: What's the overall change in the total?

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11/29: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 13,750,404 (+140,047 | ΔW Change: ↑1.49% | Σ Increase: ↑1.03%)
  • Deaths: 273,072 (+818 | ΔW Change: ↓9.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.30%)

11/30: <M>
  • Cases: 13,919,870 (+169,466 | ΔW Change: ↓10.10% | Σ Increase: ↑1.23%)
  • Deaths: 274,332 (+1,260 | ΔW Change: ↑27.14% | Σ Increase: ↑0.46%)

12/1: <T>
  • Cases: 14,108,490 (+188,620 | ΔW Change: ↑6.07% | Σ Increase: ↑1.36%)
  • Deaths: 276,976 (+2,644 | ΔW Change: ↑19.96% | Σ Increase: ↑0.96%)

12/2: <W>
  • Cases: 14,313,941 (+205,451 | ΔW Change: ↑12.30% | Σ Increase: ↑1.46%)
  • Deaths: 279,865 (+2,889 | ΔW Change: ↑24.10% | Σ Increase: ↑1.04%)

12/3: <Þ-Last Þ Holiday>
  • Cases: 14,535,196 (+221,255 | ΔW Change: ↑99.84% | Σ Increase: ↑1.55%)
  • Deaths: 282,829 (+2,964 | ΔW Change: ↑121.83% | Σ Increase: ↑1.06%)

12/4: <F>
  • Cases: 14,772,353 (+237,157 | ΔW Change: ↑15.36% | Σ Increase: ↑1.63%)
  • Deaths: 285,550 (+2,721 | ΔW Change: ↑84.98% | Σ Increase: ↑0.96%)

12/5 (Yesterday): <S>
  • Cases: 14,983,425 (+211,072 | ΔW Change: ↑35.21% | Σ Increase: ↑1.43%)
  • Deaths: 287,825 (+2,275 | ΔW Change: ↑85.26% | Σ Increase: ↑0.80%)

12/6 (Today): <Sunday>
  • Cases: 15,159,259 (+175,834 | ΔW Change: ↑25.55% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)
  • Deaths: 288,906 (+1,081 | ΔW Change: ↑32.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.38%)
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« Reply #1824 on: December 06, 2020, 10:30:33 PM »

California shot up to 28k new cases today. But Newsom's kids are still going to school.
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