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« Reply #4200 on: May 22, 2021, 04:02:22 PM »

Good to hear. My side effect also was only arm pain/soreness, except for me it was the opposite. My 2nd dose made me a bit  most people are still wearing masks. I just went to Paramus Park for shopping and again, there was no one without a mask. I don't think people here are as comfortable taking it off with or without restrictions (understandably so)

Same here in Southern California. Went to Costco earlier this week and no one was maskless. In fact, I think I've seen more masked folks this month than I ever have back in November when the state restrictions were brought back.

And I don't know if I'd put it on state mandates either cause this particular area (Inland Empire) hasn't been very active when it comes to enforcing mask-wearing & social distancing.
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« Reply #4201 on: May 22, 2021, 04:07:05 PM »

Good to hear. My side effect also was only arm pain/soreness, except for me it was the opposite. My 2nd dose made me a bit  most people are still wearing masks. I just went to Paramus Park for shopping and again, there was no one without a mask. I don't think people here are as comfortable taking it off with or without restrictions (understandably so)

Same here in Southern California. Went to Costco earlier this week and no one was maskless. In fact, I think I've seen more masked folks this month than I ever have back in November when the state restrictions were brought back.

And I don't know if I'd put it on state mandates either cause this particular area (Inland Empire) hasn't been very active when it comes to enforcing mask-wearing & social distancing.

Maskage was never 100% here, but it's declined more in the past week. But this is a blue-collar neighborhood where masks are usually less common.
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« Reply #4202 on: May 22, 2021, 04:30:32 PM »

Good to hear. My side effect also was only arm pain/soreness, except for me it was the opposite. My 2nd dose made me a bit  most people are still wearing masks. I just went to Paramus Park for shopping and again, there was no one without a mask. I don't think people here are as comfortable taking it off with or without restrictions (understandably so)

Same here in Southern California. Went to Costco earlier this week and no one was maskless. In fact, I think I've seen more masked folks this month than I ever have back in November when the state restrictions were brought back.

And I don't know if I'd put it on state mandates either cause this particular area (Inland Empire) hasn't been very active when it comes to enforcing mask-wearing & social distancing.

I don't think I saw a single person in Costco here without a mask even among seniors, many of whom were probably fully vaccinated. But to be fair, NJ is one of the hardest hit states in the country.

I have no problem with someone who refuses to wear a mask after being fully vaccinated but I am also supportive of people wearing it for months and even years to come in certain context. Covid has the capacity to cause respiratory and cardiac issues for months in some people. The nature of the virus is still arcane and needs to be unearthed for years to come.  It's unlikely to happen but people should respect the choice of mask vs no masks among vaccinated people, as people have the right to determine how to reconcile lifestyle restriction with health concerns.
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« Reply #4203 on: May 22, 2021, 05:35:21 PM »

Who can be certain that no novel, virulent variant of COVID-19 immune to current inoculations won't emerge? People failing to wear masks are potential incubators of  such a disease  -- should it occur.
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« Reply #4204 on: May 22, 2021, 05:58:02 PM »

Who can be certain that no novel, virulent variant of COVID-19 immune to current inoculations won't emerge? People failing to wear masks are potential incubators of  such a disease  -- should it occur.

True of cold and flu viruses as well.
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« Reply #4205 on: May 22, 2021, 07:13:34 PM »

Who can be certain that no novel, virulent variant of COVID-19 immune to current inoculations won't emerge? People failing to wear masks are potential incubators of  such a disease  -- should it occur.
Correction: Those who haven’t received a second dose (or one if applicable) should wear a mask. Although possible, it’s not likely a mutation would come from a fully vaccinated human.

That includes anti-vaxxer Karens, even if they are from Mississippi.
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« Reply #4206 on: May 22, 2021, 09:44:30 PM »

Who can be certain that no novel, virulent variant of COVID-19 immune to current inoculations won't emerge? People failing to wear masks are potential incubators of  such a disease  -- should it occur.
Correction: Those who haven’t received a second dose (or one if applicable) should wear a mask. Although possible, it’s not likely a mutation would come from a fully vaccinated human.

That includes anti-vaxxer Karens, even if they are from Mississippi.

Have you received both doses? And are you still wearing a mask in public places? What have you noticed since the mask mandate in Colorado was lifted?
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« Reply #4207 on: May 22, 2021, 10:16:37 PM »

Who can be certain that no novel, virulent variant of COVID-19 immune to current inoculations won't emerge? People failing to wear masks are potential incubators of  such a disease  -- should it occur.
Correction: Those who haven’t received a second dose (or one if applicable) should wear a mask. Although possible, it’s not likely a mutation would come from a fully vaccinated human.

That includes anti-vaxxer Karens, even if they are from Mississippi.

Have you received both doses? And are you still wearing a mask in public places? What have you noticed since the mask mandate in Colorado was lifted?
Yes I have received both doses, and I don’t mask as much anymore, but I still do for personal reasons. I do not expect nor encourage fully vaccinated people to mask in general and don’t think it’s necessary, I’m just going to need time to adjust back to normal myself. As for mask mandates, I haven’t seen a ton. Our school emphasized that there was no outdoor mask mandate (but there was and still is an indoor one) but that wasn’t a change in policy, more of them just repeating it again.
Otherwise I’m not out much due to my lifestyle choices, but in general people seem to be wearing them still inside and tend to not outside which is fair.
I just hope more people get vaccinated so we can reach a degree of immunity.
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« Reply #4208 on: May 22, 2021, 10:21:35 PM »

Who can be certain that no novel, virulent variant of COVID-19 immune to current inoculations won't emerge? People failing to wear masks are potential incubators of  such a disease  -- should it occur.
Correction: Those who haven’t received a second dose (or one if applicable) should wear a mask. Although possible, it’s not likely a mutation would come from a fully vaccinated human.

That includes anti-vaxxer Karens, even if they are from Mississippi.

Have you received both doses? And are you still wearing a mask in public places? What have you noticed since the mask mandate in Colorado was lifted?
Yes I have received both doses, and I don’t mask as much anymore, but I still do for personal reasons. I do not expect nor encourage fully vaccinated people to mask in general and don’t think it’s necessary, I’m just going to need time to adjust back to normal myself. As for mask mandates, I haven’t seen a ton. Our school emphasized that there was no outdoor mask mandate (but there was and still is an indoor one) but that wasn’t a change in policy, more of them just repeating it again.
Otherwise I’m not out much due to my lifestyle choices, but in general people seem to be wearing them still inside and tend to not outside which is fair.
I just hope more people get vaccinated so we can reach a degree of immunity.


I agree with this. I read in the Colorado Springs Independent today that El Paso County-where I live-has a 43% vaccination rate among the eligible population, lagging behind other parts of the state, such as Douglas County, which has a 60% vaccination rate, and San Juan County, which has an 81% vaccination rate-not that hard to achieve of course, for the least populous county in the state. I would imagine that Denver, Boulder, and the suburban counties around Denver, as well as Larimer County, probably all have higher vaccination rates than El Paso County.

And down here, as I've noted, the numbers of maskless have increased dramatically. I would say that around 60% of the customers at my job are now going about maskless, and around 25% of the employees. As of this Monday, I will be fully vaccinated, since that will be the date when two weeks have passed since I got my second dose. However, I'm on the fence as to whether or not I will wear a mask after that, as I've noted here.
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« Reply #4209 on: May 22, 2021, 11:29:23 PM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 5/22 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE:What's the overall change in the total?

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  • These numbers are inflated relative to the actual reports for the day, so they are not used to calculate the comparative percentage shifts.

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5/9: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 33,476,781 (+22,200 | ΔW Change: ↓27.69% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)
  • Deaths: 595,812 (+224 | ΔW Change: ↓28.21% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)

5/10: <M>
  • Cases: 33,515,308 (+30,152 [+38,527] | ΔW Change: ↓24.18% | Σ Increase: ↑0.12%)
  • Deaths: 596,179 (+367 | ΔW Change: ↓18.81% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)

5/11: <T>
  • Cases: 33,550,115 (+34,807 | ΔW Change: ↓21.07% | Σ Increase: ↑0.10%)
  • Deaths: 596,946 (+767 | ΔW Change: ↓14.30% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

5/12: <W>
  • Cases: 33,586,136 (+36,021 | ΔW Change: ↓22.68% | Σ Increase: ↑0.11%)
  • Deaths: 597,785 (+839 | ΔW Change: ↑13.53% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)

5/13: <Þ>
  • Cases: 33,626,097 (+39,961 | ΔW Change: ↓16.66% | Σ Increase: ↑0.12%)
  • Deaths: 598,540 (+755 | ΔW Change: ↓12.00% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

5/14: <F>
  • Cases: 33,664,013 (+37,916 | ΔW Change: ↓23.61% | Σ Increase: ↑0.11%)
  • Deaths: 599,314 (+774 | ΔW Change: ↓0.39% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

5/15: <S>
  • Cases: 33,695,916 (+31,903 | ΔW Change: ↓10.77% | Σ Increase: ↑0.09%)
  • Deaths: 599,863 (+549 | ΔW Change: ↓18.91% | Σ Increase: ↑0.09%)

5/16: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 33,715,951 (+17,834 [+20,035] | ΔW Change: ↓19.67% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)
  • Deaths: 600,147 (+284 | ΔW Change: ↑26.79% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

5/17: <M>
  • Cases: 33,747,439 (+25,030 [+31,488] | ΔW Change: ↓16.99% | Σ Increase: ↑0.09%)
  • Deaths: 600,533 (+369 [+386] | ΔW Change: ↑0.54% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)

5/18: <T>
  • Cases: 33,774,945 (+27,506 | ΔW Change: ↓20.98% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)
  • Deaths: 601,330 (+797 | ΔW Change: ↑3.91% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

5/19: <W>
  • Cases: 33,802,324 (+27,379 | ΔW Change: ↓23.99% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)
  • Deaths: 601,949 (+619 | ΔW Change: ↓26.22% | Σ Increase: ↑0.10%)

5/20: <Þ>
  • Cases: 33,833,181 (+30,857 | ΔW Change: ↓22.78% | Σ Increase: ↑0.09%)
  • Deaths: 602,616 (+667 | ΔW Change: ↓11.66% | Σ Increase: ↑0.11%)

5/21 (Yesterday): <F>
  • Cases: 33,862,398 (+29,217 | ΔW Change: ↓22.94% | Σ Increase: ↑0.09%)
  • Deaths: 603,408 (+657 [+792] | ΔW Change: ↓15.11% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

5/22 (Today): <S>
  • Cases: 33,882,333 (+19,935 | ΔW Change: ↓37.51% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)
  • Deaths: 603,876 (+468 | ΔW Change: ↓14.75% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)
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« Reply #4210 on: May 23, 2021, 11:08:24 AM »

Las Vegas Officials Hold Pop-up Vaccine Clinic At Strip Club
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« Reply #4211 on: May 23, 2021, 02:15:41 PM »

Reminds me of when Colorado did this: https://www.9news.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/arapahoe-basin-ski-up-vaccination-clinic/73-9050cf79-0d94-4314-a106-677ffef7dbef

It’s genuinely sad we have to be this creative to get people to vaccinate, but what needs to be done needs to be done.

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« Reply #4212 on: May 23, 2021, 05:59:33 PM »


While it is certainly a peak Las Vegas thing to do, I would be even more uncomfortable getting vaccinated at a strip club than that time when my dad wanted me to go to one with him.
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« Reply #4213 on: May 23, 2021, 08:07:32 PM »
« Edited: May 23, 2021, 10:53:30 PM by Dr. Arch »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 5/23 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE:What's the overall change in the total?

Brackets []: These represent the total change for the day, including backlogged reports, if any.
  • These numbers are inflated relative to the actual reports for the day, so they are not used to calculate the comparative percentage shifts.

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5/16: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 33,715,951 (+17,834 [+20,035] | ΔW Change: ↓19.67% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)
  • Deaths: 600,147 (+284 | ΔW Change: ↑26.79% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

5/17: <M>
  • Cases: 33,747,439 (+25,030 [+31,488] | ΔW Change: ↓16.99% | Σ Increase: ↑0.09%)
  • Deaths: 600,533 (+369 [+386] | ΔW Change: ↑0.54% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)

5/18: <T>
  • Cases: 33,774,945 (+27,506 | ΔW Change: ↓20.98% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)
  • Deaths: 601,330 (+797 | ΔW Change: ↑3.91% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

5/19: <W>
  • Cases: 33,802,324 (+27,379 | ΔW Change: ↓23.99% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)
  • Deaths: 601,949 (+619 | ΔW Change: ↓26.22% | Σ Increase: ↑0.10%)

5/20: <Þ>
  • Cases: 33,833,181 (+30,857 | ΔW Change: ↓22.78% | Σ Increase: ↑0.09%)
  • Deaths: 602,616 (+667 | ΔW Change: ↓11.66% | Σ Increase: ↑0.11%)

5/21: <F>
  • Cases: 33,862,398 (+29,217 | ΔW Change: ↓22.94% | Σ Increase: ↑0.09%)
  • Deaths: 603,408 (+657 [+792] | ΔW Change: ↓15.11% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

5/22 (Yesterday): <S>
  • Cases: 33,882,333 (+19,935 | ΔW Change: ↓37.51% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)
  • Deaths: 603,876 (+468 | ΔW Change: ↓14.75% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)

5/23 (Today): <Sunday>
  • Cases: 33,896,381 (+14,048 | ΔW Change: ↓21.23% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 604,087 (+211 | ΔW Change: ↓25.70% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)
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« Reply #4214 on: May 23, 2021, 11:23:36 PM »

Damn. Is that the lowest number of new cases and deaths yet?
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« Reply #4215 on: May 23, 2021, 11:30:16 PM »

Damn. Is that the lowest number of new cases and deaths yet?

Ever since I started recording case numbers on 3/26/2020, yes.
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« Reply #4216 on: May 24, 2021, 06:35:14 AM »

Damn. Is that the lowest number of new cases and deaths yet?

Ever since I started recording case numbers on 3/26/2020, yes.

What were they on March 14, the day I was sent home from work never to return?
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« Reply #4218 on: May 24, 2021, 07:09:44 AM »




That's how it should be. Any school system that continues to offer remote learning after August should be severely reprimanded.
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« Reply #4219 on: May 24, 2021, 07:22:37 AM »




That's how it should be. Any school system that continues to offer remote learning after August should be severely reprimanded.
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« Reply #4220 on: May 24, 2021, 09:06:09 AM »

Damn. Is that the lowest number of new cases and deaths yet?

Ever since I started recording case numbers on 3/26/2020, yes.

What were they on March 14, the day I was sent home from work never to return?

According to Wikipedia, which is one of the only sources I can find that has data by day going back that far, there were 662 cases and 7 deaths officially recorded in the US on 3/14/2020. (Of course, in reality there were probably tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands, of new infections that day, particularly in and around NYC.)
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« Reply #4221 on: May 24, 2021, 10:36:05 AM »

Here is an interesting read:

Intelligence on Sick Staff at Wuhan Lab Fuels Debate on Covid-19 Origin

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WASHINGTON—Three researchers from China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology became sick enough in November 2019 that they sought hospital care, according to a previously undisclosed U.S. intelligence report that could add weight to growing calls for a fuller probe of whether the Covid-19 virus may have escaped from the laboratory.

The details of the reporting go beyond a State Department fact sheet, issued during the final days of the Trump administration, which said that several researchers at the lab, a center for the study of coronaviruses and other pathogens, became sick in autumn 2019 “with symptoms consistent with both Covid-19 and common seasonal illness.”

The disclosure of the number of researchers, the timing of their illnesses and their hospital visits come on the eve of a meeting of the World Health Organization’s decision-making body, which is expected to discuss the next phase of an investigation into Covid-19’s origins.

Current and former officials familiar with the intelligence about the lab researchers expressed differing views about the strength of the supporting evidence for the assessment. One person said that it was provided by an international partner and was potentially significant but still in need of further investigation and additional corroboration.

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« Reply #4222 on: May 24, 2021, 10:54:41 AM »




That is optimistic, but not without warrant. The remote option is fine for disciplined students with attentive parents who have high standards for learning. For students who struggle at all, they need a teacher. Having been a substitute, I have found that 20% of the students get my attention... and they are the ones struggling. The others will do as they are told to do without problems; the 20%.... well, that is what a teacher is for. Maybe the lesson plan was imperfect, but I might be able to fine-tune it. I might motivate someone with some clever words.

Maybe you remember a commonplace assignment in junior-high English classes in which you are instructed to get a vocabulary word, find the meaning in the textbook's glossary, and then put the word into a sentence. If you are above-average in the class, then this exercise is deathly-boring. I suggest to any student who sees it that way and complains.... just get it over as efficiently as possible, and then you will get to do something more interesting.

I typically roamed through the classroom to see if students are doing the assignment. Words such as "That's fine!" or "Good work!" come easily from me when they are merited. If someone isn't doing the work or is struggling (which is more common in math) I try to find where the struggle is and try some fine points.

That is one way to get repeat assignments: have a normal day. To be sure, I am a rigid disciplinarian, but  I can usually get my way -- which keeps students from being sent to the principal's office on a disciplinary referral. Tell me that you do not work in that classroom or that you can make more money dealing drugs... then you have a problem. I value learning and hate drugs.     
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« Reply #4223 on: May 24, 2021, 01:19:57 PM »




That is optimistic, but not without warrant. The remote option is fine for disciplined students with attentive parents who have high standards for learning. For students who struggle at all, they need a teacher. Having been a substitute, I have found that 20% of the students get my attention... and they are the ones struggling. The others will do as they are told to do without problems; the 20%.... well, that is what a teacher is for. Maybe the lesson plan was imperfect, but I might be able to fine-tune it. I might motivate someone with some clever words.

Maybe you remember a commonplace assignment in junior-high English classes in which you are instructed to get a vocabulary word, find the meaning in the textbook's glossary, and then put the word into a sentence. If you are above-average in the class, then this exercise is deathly-boring. I suggest to any student who sees it that way and complains.... just get it over as efficiently as possible, and then you will get to do something more interesting.

I typically roamed through the classroom to see if students are doing the assignment. Words such as "That's fine!" or "Good work!" come easily from me when they are merited. If someone isn't doing the work or is struggling (which is more common in math) I try to find where the struggle is and try some fine points.

That is one way to get repeat assignments: have a normal day. To be sure, I am a rigid disciplinarian, but  I can usually get my way -- which keeps students from being sent to the principal's office on a disciplinary referral. Tell me that you do not work in that classroom or that you can make more money dealing drugs... then you have a problem. I value learning and hate drugs.     

I’d say virtual is fine for anyone above about seventh grade. Anything below that needs a specific type of kid, parent, and family situation. I’m trying to get a permanent teaching job for the fall and an interview last week the principal told me that they’re having to do five feeder high schools for one elementary school equivalent of virtual academy because elementary parents just don’t want it.
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« Reply #4224 on: May 24, 2021, 02:33:47 PM »

Los Angeles Times: LAUSD to fully reopen schools, five days a week in the fall

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Los Angeles schools Supt. Austin Beutner on Monday committed to reopening campuses full time on a normal schedule in the fall, in perhaps his clearest statement yet to students and families.

The L.A. Unified School District — like all school systems in California — will soon need to abide by the state resumption of rules that largely link funding to in-person school attendance in the new academic year. Emergency pandemic rules that have allowed districts to operate online expire on June 30.

“Looking down the path to recovery and the new school year which starts this fall, all students will have the opportunity to participate in full-day, on-campus, in-person instruction,” Beutner said in his regular Monday broadcast.

If that wasn’t direct enough, Beutner clarified further.

“That means elementary school students will be on campus five days a week for a full day of in-person instruction with their teacher and classmates,” the superintendent said. “Middle school and high school students will be on campus five days a week for a full schedule of instruction, changing classrooms for each period. For both elementary and secondary students, after-school programs will be available from the end of the school day until 6 p.m.”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-05-24/post-covid-lausd-fully-reopen-schools-in-the-fall
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