COVID-19 Megathread 5: The Trumps catch COVID-19

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

https://twitter.com/propublica/status/1280947020572786689

The same thing happened in NYC months ago.

According to this graph, this also happened in Houston months ago.

[Donald Trump’s Toupée]

Masks are this generation’s TSA.

#SecurityTheater

[GP270watch]

Masks are this generation’s TSA.

#SecurityTheater

Masks seem to work where they've been implemented. Wearing a mask is really no big deal and if anything is anti-surveillance state. Nobody at all liked the TSA protocols,, most people voluntarily wear masks, it's only the Deplorables who think it's the death of liberty or something.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Masks seem to work where they've been implemented. Wearing a mask is really no big deal and if anything is anti-surveillance state. Nobody at all liked the TSA protocols,, most people voluntarily wear masks, it's only the Deplorables who think it's the death of liberty or something.

What if somebody has a legitimate medical reason? I have a bandana that doubles as a mask, and whenever I try to use it in stores where it's required, I get that feeling of fear right in my heart. I have heart disease and had a possible heart attack on April 28.

[GP270watch]

Masks seem to work where they've been implemented. Wearing a mask is really no big deal and if anything is anti-surveillance state. Nobody at all liked the TSA protocols,, most people voluntarily wear masks, it's only the Deplorables who think it's the death of liberty or something.

What if somebody has a legitimate medical reason? I have a bandana that doubles as a mask, and whenever I try to use it in stores where it's required, I get that feeling of fear right in my heart. I have heart disease and had a possible heart attack on April 28.

Get a real mask and talk to your doctor to see if it's advisable. Getting Covid-19 with a heart condition is a higher risk factor for bad things happening to you.

[Damocles]

Masks are this generation’s TSA.

#SecurityTheater

Ah, yes. Seatbelts are fake news, cigarettes don’t cause cancer, and spoons didn’t make Rosie O’Donnell fat. Got it.

[Donald Trump’s Toupée]

Masks seem to work where they've been implemented. Wearing a mask is really no big deal and if anything is anti-surveillance state. Nobody at all liked the TSA protocols,, most people voluntarily wear masks, it's only the Deplorables who think it's the death of liberty or something.

What if somebody has a legitimate medical reason? I have a bandana that doubles as a mask, and whenever I try to use it in stores where it's required, I get that feeling of fear right in my heart. I have heart disease and had a possible heart attack on April 28.

So we should take ridiculous over reach mandated policies for every illness out there? Fn dumb. And fairly totalitarian. It’s funny, the left are doing what they feared a Trump presidency would be like.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Masks seem to work where they've been implemented. Wearing a mask is really no big deal and if anything is anti-surveillance state. Nobody at all liked the TSA protocols,, most people voluntarily wear masks, it's only the Deplorables who think it's the death of liberty or something.

What if somebody has a legitimate medical reason? I have a bandana that doubles as a mask, and whenever I try to use it in stores where it's required, I get that feeling of fear right in my heart. I have heart disease and had a possible heart attack on April 28.

So we should take ridiculous over reach mandated policies for every illness out there? Fn dumb. And fairly totalitarian. It’s funny, the left are doing what they feared a Trump presidency would be like.

At least we know where this year's Darwin awards will go.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

It looks like Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, and Colorado all had their most new confirmed infections in over a month today. 

It really feels to me like the virus is unstoppable until we reach a certain immunity threshold, which perhaps only NYC right now has achieved.

[Dr. Arch]

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 7/8 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

Δ Change: Day-by-day Growth or Decline or COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.

• IE: Are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.

• IE: What's the overall change in the total?

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6/14: <Sunday>

• Cases: 2,162,144 (+19,920 | Δ Change: ↓21.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.93%)
• Deaths: 117,853 (+326 | Δ Change: ↓53.56% | Σ Increase: ↑0.28%)

6/15:

• Cases: 2,182,950 (+20,806 | Δ Change: ↑4.45% | Σ Increase: ↑0.96%)
• Deaths: 118,283 (+430 | Δ Change: ↑31.90% | Σ Increase: ↑0.36%)

6/16:

• Cases: 2,208,400 (+25,450 | Δ Change: ↑22.32% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)
• Deaths: 119,132 (+849 | Δ Change: ↑97.44% | Σ Increase: ↑0.72%)

6/17:

• Cases: 2,234,471 (+26,071 | Δ Change: ↑2.44% | Σ Increase: ↑1.18%)
• Deaths: 119,941 (+809 | Δ Change: ↓4.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.68%)

6/18:

• Cases: 2,263,651 (+29,180 | Δ Change: ↑11.93% | Σ Increase: ↑1.31%)
• Deaths: 120,688 (+747 | Δ Change: ↓7.66% | Σ Increase: ↑0.62%)

6/19:

• Cases: 2,297,190 (+33,539 | Δ Change: ↑14.94% | Σ Increase: ↑1.48%)
• Deaths: 121,407 (+719 | Δ Change: ↓3.75% | Σ Increase: ↑0.60%)

6/20:

• Cases: 2,330,578 (+33,388 | Δ Change: ↓0.45% | Σ Increase: ↑1.45%)
• Deaths: 121,980 (+573 | Δ Change: ↓20.31% | Σ Increase: ↑0.47%)

6/21: <Sunday>

• Cases: 2,356,657 (+26,079 | Δ Change: ↓21.89% | Σ Increase: ↑1.12%)
• Deaths: 122,247 (+267 | Δ Change: ↓53.40% | Σ Increase: ↑0.22%)

6/22:

• Cases: 2,388,153 (+31,496 | Δ Change: ↑20.77% | Σ Increase: ↑1.34%)
• Deaths: 122,610 (+363 | Δ Change: ↑35.96% | Σ Increase: ↑0.30%)

6/23:

• Cases: 2,424,168 (+36,015 | Δ Change: ↑14.35% | Σ Increase: ↑1.51%)
• Deaths: 123,473 (+863 | Δ Change: ↑137.74% | Σ Increase: ↑0.70%)
• Death toll inflated by older counts recently dumped by DE

6/24:

• Cases: 2,462,554 (+38,386 | Δ Change: ↑6.18% | Σ Increase: ↑1.58%)
• Deaths: 124,281 (+808 | Δ Change: ↓6.37% | Σ Increase: ↑0.65%)

6/25:

• Cases: 2,504,588 (+42,034 | Δ Change: ↑9.50% | Σ Increase: ↑1.71%)
• Deaths: 126,780 (+2,499 | Δ Change: ↑209.28% | Σ Increase: ↑2.01%)
• Death toll inflated by older counts recently dumped by NJ

6/26:

• Cases: 2,552,940 (+48,352 | Δ Change: ↑15.03% | Σ Increase: ↑1.93%)
• Deaths: 127,640 (+860 | Δ Change: ↓65.59% | Σ Increase: ↑0.68%)
• Death Δ Change affected by older counts recently dumped by NJ on 6/25

6/27:

• Cases: 2,596,537 (+43,597 | Δ Change: ↓9.83% | Σ Increase: ↑1.71%)
• Deaths: 128,152 (+512 | Δ Change: ↓40.47% | Σ Increase: ↑0.40%)

6/28: <Sunday>

• Cases: 2,637,077 (+40,540 | Δ Change: ↓7.01% | Σ Increase: ↑1.56%)
• Deaths: 128,437 (+285 | Δ Change: ↓44.34% | Σ Increase: ↑0.22%)

6/29:

• Cases: 2,681,802 (+44,725 | Δ Change: ↑10.32% | Σ Increase: ↑1.70%)
• Deaths: 128,779 (+342 | Δ Change: ↑20.00% | Σ Increase: ↑0.27%)

6/30:

• Cases: 2,727,853 (+46,051 | Δ Change: ↑2.96% | Σ Increase: ↑1.72%)
• Deaths: 130,122 (+1,343 | Δ Change: ↑292.69% | Σ Increase: ↑1.04%)

7/1:

• Cases: 2,779,953 (+52,100 | Δ Change: ↑13.14% | Σ Increase: ↑1.91%)
• Deaths: 130,798 (+676 | Δ Change: ↓49.66% | Σ Increase: ↑0.52%)

7/2:

• Cases: 2,837,189 (+57,236 | Δ Change: ↑9.86% | Σ Increase: ↑2.06%)
• Deaths: 131,485 (+687 | Δ Change: ↑1.62% | Σ Increase: ↑0.53%)

7/3:

• Cases: 2,890,588 (+53,399 | Δ Change: ↓6.70% | Σ Increase: ↑1.88%)
• Deaths: 132,101 (+616 | Δ Change: ↓10.33% | Σ Increase: ↑0.47%)

7/4:

• Cases: 2,935,770 (+45,182 | Δ Change: ↓15.39% | Σ Increase: ↑1.56%)
• Deaths: 132,318 (+212 | Δ Change: ↓65.58% | Σ Increase: ↑0.16%)

7/5: <Sunday>

• Cases: 2,982,928 (+47,158 | Δ Change: ↑4.37% | Σ Increase: ↑1.61%)
• Deaths: 132,569 (+251 | Δ Change: ↑18.40% | Σ Increase: ↑0.19%)

7/6:

• Cases: 3,040,833 (+57,905 | Δ Change: ↑22.79% | Σ Increase: ↑1.94%)
• Deaths: 132,979 (+410 | Δ Change: ↑63.35% | Σ Increase: ↑0.31%)

7/7 (Yesterday):

• Cases: 3,097,084 (+56,251 | Δ Change: ↓2.86% | Σ Increase: ↑1.85%)
• Deaths: 133,972 (+993 | Δ Change: ↑142.20% | Σ Increase: ↑0.75%)

7/8 (Today):

• Cases: 3,158,734 (+61,650 | Δ Change: ↑9.60% | Σ Increase: ↑1.99%)
• Deaths: 134,854 (+882 | Δ Change: ↓11.18% | Σ Increase: ↑0.66%)

[Dr. Arch]

It looks like Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, and Colorado all had their most new confirmed infections in over a month today. 

It really feels to me like the virus is unstoppable until we reach a certain immunity threshold, which perhaps only NYC right now has achieved.

Correction, it's only unstoppable for countries with failing administrations, like the United States and Brazil. Most of the rest of the world has gotten it under control (EU) or has completely eradicated it (Taiwan, NZ).

P.S. Nearly 62,000 new cases in one day. Fauci might be proven right yet again. 100k new cases a day is not that far off at this point.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

It looks like Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, and Colorado all had their most new confirmed infections in over a month today. 

It really feels to me like the virus is unstoppable until we reach a certain immunity threshold, which perhaps only NYC right now has achieved.

Realistically, that's about the only option we have. I don't like it, but the current restrictions can't go on forever.

Incidentally, today had the biggest number of tests administered so far, with the exception of last Friday.

[Calthrina950]

It looks like Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, and Colorado all had their most new confirmed infections in over a month today. 

It really feels to me like the virus is unstoppable until we reach a certain immunity threshold, which perhaps only NYC right now has achieved.

Correction, it's only unstoppable for countries with failing administrations, like the United States and Brazil. Most of the rest of the world has gotten it under control (EU) or has completely eradicated it (Taiwan, NZ).

P.S. Nearly 62,000 new cases in one day. Fauci might be proven right yet again. 100k new cases a day is not that far off at this point.

What will happen once we reach that point? I can't even imagine how things are going to play out if we have that many cases per day. And deaths are going back up as well. We'll probably be back at the 1000-1500 deaths per day figure soon.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

It looks like Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, and Colorado all had their most new confirmed infections in over a month today. 

It really feels to me like the virus is unstoppable until we reach a certain immunity threshold, which perhaps only NYC right now has achieved.

Correction, it's only unstoppable for countries with failing administrations, like the United States and Brazil. Most of the rest of the world has gotten it under control (EU) or has completely eradicated it (Taiwan, NZ).

P.S. Nearly 62,000 new cases in one day. Fauci might be proven right yet again. 100k new cases a day is not that far off at this point.

What will happen once we reach that point? I can't even imagine how things are going to play out if we have that many cases per day. And deaths are going back up as well. We'll probably be back at the 1000-1500 deaths per day figure soon.

It probably was over 200,000 a day back in April, but the testing was terrible back then.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1281011207198171137

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Arizona, Utah, and Nevada seem to be leveling off.

[Dr. Arch]

It looks like Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, and Colorado all had their most new confirmed infections in over a month today. 

It really feels to me like the virus is unstoppable until we reach a certain immunity threshold, which perhaps only NYC right now has achieved.

Correction, it's only unstoppable for countries with failing administrations, like the United States and Brazil. Most of the rest of the world has gotten it under control (EU) or has completely eradicated it (Taiwan, NZ).

P.S. Nearly 62,000 new cases in one day. Fauci might be proven right yet again. 100k new cases a day is not that far off at this point.

What will happen once we reach that point? I can't even imagine how things are going to play out if we have that many cases per day. And deaths are going back up as well. We'll probably be back at the 1000-1500 deaths per day figure soon.

What will happen? What we've been trying to prevent from the get-go, a systematic collapse of our healthcare system and an increase of the COVID-19 mortality rate, alongside added casualties from other conditions that are left unattended due to an overloaded system.

Some states are already reaching their breaking points.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

It looks like Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, and Colorado all had their most new confirmed infections in over a month today.  

It really feels to me like the virus is unstoppable until we reach a certain immunity threshold, which perhaps only NYC right now has achieved.

Correction, it's only unstoppable for countries with failing administrations, like the United States and Brazil. Most of the rest of the world has gotten it under control (EU) or has completely eradicated it (Taiwan, NZ).

P.S. Nearly 62,000 new cases in one day. Fauci might be proven right yet again. 100k new cases a day is not that far off at this point.

You can’t call Italy or Spain or France a success when they still have death rates substantially higher than the US.  Look at the top 8 death rates in the world; they are all in Europe.  They’ve controlled the virus just like NYC did; by waiting until enough people had already been infected that an immunity barrier had been established in the places with the worst outbreaks.

And New Zealand is a tiny island nation that is still completely locked down from any foreign travel.  What is going to happen when they actually open back up again?

[emailking]

It looks like Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, and Colorado all had their most new confirmed infections in over a month today. 

It really feels to me like the virus is unstoppable until we reach a certain immunity threshold, which perhaps only NYC right now has achieved.

Correction, it's only unstoppable for countries with failing administrations, like the United States and Brazil. Most of the rest of the world has gotten it under control (EU) or has completely eradicated it (Taiwan, NZ).

P.S. Nearly 62,000 new cases in one day. Fauci might be proven right yet again. 100k new cases a day is not that far off at this point.

Really makes it seem quaint all that debate we had about when peak is/was/will be. Everyone was off by months.

[Dr. Arch]

It looks like Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, and Colorado all had their most new confirmed infections in over a month today. 

It really feels to me like the virus is unstoppable until we reach a certain immunity threshold, which perhaps only NYC right now has achieved.

Correction, it's only unstoppable for countries with failing administrations, like the United States and Brazil. Most of the rest of the world has gotten it under control (EU) or has completely eradicated it (Taiwan, NZ).

P.S. Nearly 62,000 new cases in one day. Fauci might be proven right yet again. 100k new cases a day is not that far off at this point.

Really makes it seem quaint all that debate we had about when peak is/was/will be. Everyone was off by months.

Had we responded accordingly and held our ground, our curve would have looked a lot better by now.

[Calthrina950]

It looks like Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, and Colorado all had their most new confirmed infections in over a month today. 

It really feels to me like the virus is unstoppable until we reach a certain immunity threshold, which perhaps only NYC right now has achieved.

Correction, it's only unstoppable for countries with failing administrations, like the United States and Brazil. Most of the rest of the world has gotten it under control (EU) or has completely eradicated it (Taiwan, NZ).

P.S. Nearly 62,000 new cases in one day. Fauci might be proven right yet again. 100k new cases a day is not that far off at this point.

What will happen once we reach that point? I can't even imagine how things are going to play out if we have that many cases per day. And deaths are going back up as well. We'll probably be back at the 1000-1500 deaths per day figure soon.

What will happen? What we've been trying to prevent from the get-go, a systematic collapse of our healthcare system and an increase of the COVID-19 mortality rate, alongside added casualties from other conditions that are left unattended due to an overloaded system.

Some states are already reaching their breaking points.

At this point, I'm starting to wonder if coronavirus will end up killing more Americans than the Civil War did. It would be absolutely terrifying to me if 600,000 or more Americans were to die from this.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

It is perplexing to me that the UK still has almost the number of deaths per capita that the US does, while having about 20x fewer cases per capita, despite doing 50% more per capita tests. 

It’s been like that for several weeks.  They have a CFR of 17%!  How is that possible?

[Pericles]

It is perplexing to me that the UK still has almost the number of deaths per capita that the US does, while having about 20x fewer cases per capita, despite doing 50% more per capita tests. 

It’s been like that for several weeks.  They have a CFR of 17%!  How is that possible?

The UK seems to have ramped up their testing late into their pandemic. The UK also had a high toll in care homes, in part due to the government sending people from hospitals to care homes without testing them first (I think only New York did that in the US). A recent Guardian report says 5.3% of UK care home residents have died of Covid. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/28/covid-19-risk-of-death-in-uk-care-homes-13-times-higher-than-in-germany

[GP270watch]

Or we could just worn masks and mobilized the full resources of the Federal government to get enough masks and PPE for health-workers and then masks for people, including free masks. Also while doing contact tracing and non essential lockdowns.

 A race to herd immunity strategy was modeled to be a disaster by multiple organizations and agencies. You can't pursue a strategy like that when the best mathematicians, scientists, and medical people say it's a stupid way to go. Also the race to her immunity hinging on infected people to stay home for two weeks wouldn't work. What would make them stay home? Who would care for them if they were sick but not requiring hospitalization?

 It seems the countries who have had the most success had a clear government response with no equivocation about how serious this was. Encouraged their citizen or required masks, sometimes provided or subsidized. They also did testing followed by proactive contact tracing to see where the disease was spreading and shape policy accordingly.

As far as I know, no one was modeling a voluntary infection strategy accompanied by a hard lockdown.  All the discussion of herd immmunity was essentially just assuming that everyone would gradually get infected at random.  This is pretty much what happened in Sweden, and why their death toll was so high.  They wanted herd immunity, but they never intentionally directed infections toward the least vulnerable,; they just sort of let the infection spread wherever.

  Come on bro be serious. You really believe you came up with some brilliant strategy that all of the world's experts on pandemics somehow couldn't conceive of and model?

I’m sure many people have thought of this before, but probably didn’t spend a lot of effort trying to model it because they believed it was politically unrealistic and would not be taken seriously.  If you know of a model for this, please post a link, I’d love to see it.

Edit: I also think a lot of people when the outbreak first started really underestimated the seriousness of the situation, and how impossible it was going to be to control using more moderate strategy.  In particular I think people underestimated the contagiousness of the virus and what asymptomatic spread really implied, and believed that temporary lockdowns by themselves would be effective.  So an extreme-sounding proposal like this may have sounded unnecessary to even consider at that point.

  Early Herd Immunity against COVID-19: A Dangerous Misconception

The article explicitly assumes the “current” (for when it was written) death rate of 2000 deaths/day would continue under a herd immunity strategy.  It makes no attempt to model a death rate among the young and healthy.  The whole purpose of deliberate infection and quarantine is to dramatically reduce the death rate by only infecting those least likely to die, rather than just infecting people unknowlingly and randomly.

What on earth are you talking about? You can not assign Covid-19 to only a portion of the population. We don't know the exact mortality rate but it's pretty deadly to older folks and those with health vulnerabilities. People who are perfectly healthy also say that it's a terrible illness and many feel after effects post viral even after being clear. It's completely nonsensical to get Covid-19 if you don't have too, stop speculating nonsense and arguing for impossible proposals when we can't even get people to follow simple stuff.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Or we could just worn masks and mobilized the full resources of the Federal government to get enough masks and PPE for health-workers and then masks for people, including free masks. Also while doing contact tracing and non essential lockdowns.

 A race to herd immunity strategy was modeled to be a disaster by multiple organizations and agencies. You can't pursue a strategy like that when the best mathematicians, scientists, and medical people say it's a stupid way to go. Also the race to her immunity hinging on infected people to stay home for two weeks wouldn't work. What would make them stay home? Who would care for them if they were sick but not requiring hospitalization?

 It seems the countries who have had the most success had a clear government response with no equivocation about how serious this was. Encouraged their citizen or required masks, sometimes provided or subsidized. They also did testing followed by proactive contact tracing to see where the disease was spreading and shape policy accordingly.

As far as I know, no one was modeling a voluntary infection strategy accompanied by a hard lockdown.  All the discussion of herd immmunity was essentially just assuming that everyone would gradually get infected at random.  This is pretty much what happened in Sweden, and why their death toll was so high.  They wanted herd immunity, but they never intentionally directed infections toward the least vulnerable,; they just sort of let the infection spread wherever.

  Come on bro be serious. You really believe you came up with some brilliant strategy that all of the world's experts on pandemics somehow couldn't conceive of and model?

I’m sure many people have thought of this before, but probably didn’t spend a lot of effort trying to model it because they believed it was politically unrealistic and would not be taken seriously.  If you know of a model for this, please post a link, I’d love to see it.

Edit: I also think a lot of people when the outbreak first started really underestimated the seriousness of the situation, and how impossible it was going to be to control using more moderate strategy.  In particular I think people underestimated the contagiousness of the virus and what asymptomatic spread really implied, and believed that temporary lockdowns by themselves would be effective.  So an extreme-sounding proposal like this may have sounded unnecessary to even consider at that point.

  Early Herd Immunity against COVID-19: A Dangerous Misconception

The article explicitly assumes the “current” (for when it was written) death rate of 2000 deaths/day would continue under a herd immunity strategy.  It makes no attempt to model a death rate among the young and healthy.  The whole purpose of deliberate infection and quarantine is to dramatically reduce the death rate by only infecting those least likely to die, rather than just infecting people unknowlingly and randomly.

What on earth are you talking about? You can not assign Covid-19 to only a portion of the population. We don't know the exact mortality rate but it's pretty deadly to older folks and those with health vulnerabilities. People who are perfectly healthy also say that it's a terrible illness and many feel after effects post viral even after being clear. It's completely nonsensical to get Covid-19 if you don't have too, stop speculating nonsense and arguing for impossible proposals when we can't even get people to follow simple stuff.

You -can- “assign” the virus to a portion of the population by voluntary deliberate infection coupled with quartines and a strict lockdown of those in the population who are not yet immune. 

You are right that the virus is extremely deadly to older and vulnerable people.  None of these people should have been made to be exposed to the virus.  Younger and healtheir people are 1000 times less likely to die from the virus than the most vulnerable.

I understand that no one would volunteer to get the virus all things being equal.  But as a society, we don’t really have a choice.  At least 60% of the population is probably going to be infected eventually.  That’s about 200 million people.  If we just let people get infected randomly, probably about 0.5% die, which is 1 million people.  But if we had only infected the healthiest people, we could have probably reduced that ten or twenty fold. 

Now obviously, we’ve already exceeded that optimistic projection, because of the failure of our political leaders to consider bold proposals.  So maybe it’s too late.

But this is a war of a scale that we haven’t seen since WWII.  And in WWII, millions of Americans consider it their patriotic and moral duty to risk their own lives to protect others, and protect the society under attack.  Here, we could call upon people to do the same thing.  Unlike in a real war, the risk of death to each individual would be less than 1 in 1000.  But literally a million lives could be saved.