COVID-19 Megathread 6: Return of the Omicron

[Del Tachi]

I can’t believe some of you are completely shocked that some corporations are still enforcing some light COVID safety restrictions. They’re covering their asses. If there’s a small outbreak that starts at the stadium then they have those restrictions as an excuse to say they were enforcing safety.

Bro bars have been open here since like May 2020 and they’ve been at full capacity since March 2021. We had a whopping total of 16 cases the past week. People are barely even vaccinated here too. If people are fully vaccinated, everything should be COMPLETELY back to normal for them. Get the f out of here with the social engineering

Bro congrats to your bars but I'm just saying that large corporations always do the most to cover their asses so it's not a surprise to see places like stadiums, convention centers and supermarket and retail chains continue to enforce safety restrictions like mask wearing. I'm sorry that upsets you.

The question then becomes: How long will private businesses maintain restrictions? The statewide mask mandates are slowly going away, and I think all of those will be gone by fall. But will private restrictions continue? I certainly don't think it's feasible for them to continue beyond when it is necessary.

Republicans wanted liability protections for private businesses last summer, but Democrats called that a no-go.

Such protections are an important part of getting America back to normal; after all, it is only because of liability protections that we brought the vaccines and other treatments to market as quickly as we did.

[Calthrina950]

I can’t believe some of you are completely shocked that some corporations are still enforcing some light COVID safety restrictions. They’re covering their asses. If there’s a small outbreak that starts at the stadium then they have those restrictions as an excuse to say they were enforcing safety.

Bro bars have been open here since like May 2020 and they’ve been at full capacity since March 2021. We had a whopping total of 16 cases the past week. People are barely even vaccinated here too. If people are fully vaccinated, everything should be COMPLETELY back to normal for them. Get the f out of here with the social engineering

Bro congrats to your bars but I'm just saying that large corporations always do the most to cover their asses so it's not a surprise to see places like stadiums, convention centers and supermarket and retail chains continue to enforce safety restrictions like mask wearing. I'm sorry that upsets you.

The question then becomes: How long will private businesses maintain restrictions? The statewide mask mandates are slowly going away, and I think all of those will be gone by fall. But will private restrictions continue? I certainly don't think it's feasible for them to continue beyond when it is necessary.

Republicans wanted liability protections for private businesses last summer, but Democrats called that a no-go.

Such protections are an important part of getting America back to normal; after all, it is only because of liability protections that we brought the vaccines and other treatments to market as quickly as we did.

Are you saying then, that businesses might keep mask mandates in place for the near-future because they lack these protections? Of course, many businesses-such as my own workplace, Home Depot-haven't been enforcing the mandates throughout the pandemic (except for their own employees)-so it won't make a difference to those who've stopped wearing masks or refused to.

When do you think people should stop wearing masks? Once we've reached an optimal vaccination rate?

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

https://twitter.com/EricFisherSBG/status/1389971982100402179
Clever idea.

Dodgers Stadium opened up a "Vaccinated Zone" 2 weeks ago wherein social distancing is not enforced (But mask-wearing is unless you're eating or drinking).

Though they're certainly not offering free tickets.

What's their rationale for that? Not only are they fully vaccinated but it's outside. It makes zero sense.

Well, the CDC did say "You don't have to wear a mask outdoors unless you're in a crowded setting". Unsurprisingly, I feel that last bit gets overlooked.

Although it's one thing to say it, it's another to enforce it. Don't assume these venues have the most vigilant security forces in the world.

[JGibson]

As of Friday, May 14th, Illinois will move to the Bridge Phase, meaning that capacity limits will further increase.

June 11th could be the earliest date of Illinois being in Phase 5 (all capacity limits gone, but mask mandate stays in order) if everything goes right.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

June 11th could be the earliest date of Illinois being in Phase 5 (all capacity limits gone, but mask mandate stays in order) if everything goes right.

I thought phase 5 was post-pandemic. So the mask order is staying even after the pandemic is over?

[Progressive Pessimist]

I think it's a poor reflection on our populace that people need more incentive to get vaccinated. Apparently the health of themselves and society isn't enticing enough. But whatever, I get why these deal-sweeteners (sometimes literally) are being done. As long as it helps us reach herd immunity at all I can get past it.

Unfortunately Americans as a whole are selfish and lazy and generally not prone to doing something if there's not immediate personal gain involved.

This is the sad reality. But logically, becoming immune to a deadly disease and being less likely to spread it really ought to be personal gain enough. Our populace isn't so logical though, especially anti-vax ideology. Meanwhile, in places like India, there are potentially a billion people who would give anything to the have the access to vaccines that we do.

[Calthrina950]

I think it's a poor reflection on our populace that people need more incentive to get vaccinated. Apparently the health of themselves and society isn't enticing enough. But whatever, I get why these deal-sweeteners (sometimes literally) are being done. As long as it helps us reach herd immunity at all I can get past it.

Unfortunately Americans as a whole are selfish and lazy and generally not prone to doing something if there's not immediate personal gain involved.

This is the sad reality. But logically, becoming immune to a deadly disease and being less likely to spread it really ought to be personal gain enough. Our populace isn't so logical though, especially anti-vax ideology. Meanwhile, in places like India, there are potentially a billion people who would give anything to the have the access to vaccines that we do.

You are dead on with these. Americans are privileged enough, compared to countries in the developing world, that they can refuse to take the vaccine. People in India and elsewhere are absolutely grateful for these same vaccines, as they are grateful for so many other things in life that we take for granted.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1390436938944032770

[Crumpets]

The "at least one dose" map is starting to look pretty familiar:

[Dr. Arch]

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 5/6 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

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4/25: <Sunday>

• Cases: 32,824,389 (+34,736 | ΔW Change: ↑7.43% | Σ Increase: ↑0.11%)
• Deaths: 586,152 (+272 | ΔW Change: ↓10.82% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

4/26: <M>

• Cases: 32,875,045 (+47,456 [+50,656] | ΔW Change: ↓7.96% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)
• Deaths: 586,611 (+459 | ΔW Change: ↓4.57% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)

4/27: <T>

• Cases: 32,927,091 (+52,046 | ΔW Change: ↓15.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.16%)
• Deaths: 587,384 (+773 | ΔW Change: ↓15.43% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

4/28: <W>

• Cases: 32,983,695 (+56,604 | ΔW Change: ↓13.69% | Σ Increase: ↑0.17%)
• Deaths: 588,337 (+954 | ΔW Change: ↑9.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.16%)

4/29: <Þ>

• Cases: 33,044,068 (+60,373 | ΔW Change: ↓9.99% | Σ Increase: ↑0.18%)
• Deaths: 589,207 (+870 | ΔW Change: ↓2.90% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)

4/30: <F>

• Cases: 33,103,974 (+59,906 | ΔW Change: ↓9.35% | Σ Increase: ↑0.18%)
• Deaths: 590,055 (+784 [+848] | ΔW Change: ↓2.85% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)

5/1: <S>

• Cases: 33,146,008 (+42,034 | ΔW Change: ↓22.79% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)
• Deaths: 590,704 (+649 | ΔW Change: ↓12.53% | Σ Increase: ↑0.11%)

5/2: <Sunday>

• Cases: 33,180,441 (+30,701 [+34,433] | ΔW Change: ↓11.62% | Σ Increase: ↑0.10%)
• Deaths: 591,062 (+312 [+358] | ΔW Change: ↑14.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)

5/3: <M>

• Cases: 33,230,561 (+39,767 [+50,120] | ΔW Change: ↓16.20% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)
• Deaths: 591,514 (+452 | ΔW Change: ↓1.53% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)

5/4: <T>

• Cases: 33,274,659 (+44,098 | ΔW Change: ↓15.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)
• Deaths: 592,409 (+895 | ΔW Change: ↑15.78% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)

5/5 (Yesterday): <W>

• Cases: 33,321,244 (+46,585 | ΔW Change: ↓17.70% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)
• Deaths: 593,148 (+739 | ΔW Change: ↓22.54% | Σ Increase: ↑0.12%)

5/6 (Today): <Þ>

• Cases: 33,369,192 (+47,948 | ΔW Change: ↓20.58% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)
• Deaths: 594,006 (+858 | ΔW Change: ↓1.38% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

Is there a point where the cases are going to absolutely drop off in the US? I’m talking like 5000 to 900 new cases and 100+ deaths per day.

[GP270watch]

Is there a point where the cases are going to absolutely drop off in the US? I’m talking like 5000 to 900 new cases and 100+ deaths per day.

Yes probably in the summer, Israel had a day with no Covid-19 deaths after meeting vaccination targets.

Covid-19: Israel records no daily deaths for the first time in 10 months

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

Seattle Mariners are the latest baseball team to institute Vaccination Zones at their games. And like every other team, social distancing isn't enforced but they do 'require' mask-wearing when not eating or drinking (Dun dun dun!)

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mariners/mariners-to-open-vaccination-only-sections-at-t-mobile-park/

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

If the prices and mask requirement are the same in both zones, wouldn’t everyone prefer to sit in the socially-distanced zone?  What exactly is the advantage of the Vax Zone?

[Dr. Arch]

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 5/7 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.

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• IE:What's the overall change in the total?

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• Cases: 32,824,389 (+34,736 | ΔW Change: ↑7.43% | Σ Increase: ↑0.11%)
• Deaths: 586,152 (+272 | ΔW Change: ↓10.82% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

4/26: <M>

• Cases: 32,875,045 (+47,456 [+50,656] | ΔW Change: ↓7.96% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)
• Deaths: 586,611 (+459 | ΔW Change: ↓4.57% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)

4/27: <T>

• Cases: 32,927,091 (+52,046 | ΔW Change: ↓15.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.16%)
• Deaths: 587,384 (+773 | ΔW Change: ↓15.43% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

4/28: <W>

• Cases: 32,983,695 (+56,604 | ΔW Change: ↓13.69% | Σ Increase: ↑0.17%)
• Deaths: 588,337 (+954 | ΔW Change: ↑9.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.16%)

4/29: <Þ>

• Cases: 33,044,068 (+60,373 | ΔW Change: ↓9.99% | Σ Increase: ↑0.18%)
• Deaths: 589,207 (+870 | ΔW Change: ↓2.90% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)

4/30: <F>

• Cases: 33,103,974 (+59,906 | ΔW Change: ↓9.35% | Σ Increase: ↑0.18%)
• Deaths: 590,055 (+784 [+848] | ΔW Change: ↓2.85% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)

5/1: <S>

• Cases: 33,146,008 (+42,034 | ΔW Change: ↓22.79% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)
• Deaths: 590,704 (+649 | ΔW Change: ↓12.53% | Σ Increase: ↑0.11%)

5/2: <Sunday>

• Cases: 33,180,441 (+30,701 [+34,433] | ΔW Change: ↓11.62% | Σ Increase: ↑0.10%)
• Deaths: 591,062 (+312 [+358] | ΔW Change: ↑14.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)

5/3: <M>

• Cases: 33,230,561 (+39,767 [+50,120] | ΔW Change: ↓16.20% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)
• Deaths: 591,514 (+452 | ΔW Change: ↓1.53% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)

5/4: <T>

• Cases: 33,274,659 (+44,098 | ΔW Change: ↓15.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)
• Deaths: 592,409 (+895 | ΔW Change: ↑15.78% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)

5/5: <W>

• Cases: 33,321,244 (+46,585 | ΔW Change: ↓17.70% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)
• Deaths: 593,148 (+739 | ΔW Change: ↓22.54% | Σ Increase: ↑0.12%)

5/6 (Yesterday): <Þ>

• Cases: 33,369,192 (+47,948 | ΔW Change: ↓20.58% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)
• Deaths: 594,006 (+858 | ΔW Change: ↓1.38% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)

5/7 (Today): <F>

• Cases: 33,418,826 (+49,634 | ΔW Change: ↓17.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)
• Deaths: 594,911 (+777 [+905] | ΔW Change: ↓0.89% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)

[Bandit3 the Worker]

7-day positive rate is down to 3.39%.

[QAnonKelly]

Was hoping to go to London for a couple of days after they reopen the 17th but we’re on the amber list. I’m fully vaccinated too.

[GeorgiaModerate]

As of today, everyone in my household reached two weeks after the second shot.  We celebrated by going out to eat in a real sit-down restaurant for the first time since the pandemic started.  It felt both weird and normal; something familiar that we haven't done in a long time, but with differences from the way it used to be.  About 50% of the tables were blocked off for social distancing. The staff was masked at all times; guests were not required or requested to wear masks, but I'd guess about half wore them inside (we didn't) and took them off to eat.  It was a good dinner and I really enjoyed it.

[Roll Roons]

Attention Biden and CDC:
https://twitter.com/scottlincicome/status/1391068289841893378

[It’s so Joever]

Attention Biden and CDC:
https://twitter.com/scottlincicome/status/1391068289841893378

Unfortunately, once again the CDC is trying to be cautious (as they typically do by convention) but at the risk of confusing the public.
While I get the incentive, the right thing would be to publicly announce that masks are not necessary if you are fully vaccinated.

The only exceptions should be hospitals (duh), schools, and other areas where a lot of unvaccinated people who can’t get it would be (can’t think of any)
Otherwise, masks are not necessary for vaccinated people.

[OneJ]

I finally received my J&J this morning. I feel fine for the most part after a relatively long, but sorely needed nap.

[QAnonKelly]

Attention Biden and CDC:
https://twitter.com/scottlincicome/status/1391068289841893378

Unfortunately, once again the CDC is trying to be cautious (as they typically do by convention) but at the risk of confusing the public.
While I get the incentive, the right thing would be to publicly announce that masks are not necessary if you are fully vaccinated.

The only exceptions should be hospitals (duh), schools, and other areas where a lot of unvaccinated people who can’t get it would be (can’t think of any)
Otherwise, masks are not necessary for vaccinated people.

I’m personally going to stop wearing one in stores and stuff by the end of the month depending on how things look.

[Dr. Arch]

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 5/8 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

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• Cases: 32,824,389 (+34,736 | ΔW Change: ↑7.43% | Σ Increase: ↑0.11%)
• Deaths: 586,152 (+272 | ΔW Change: ↓10.82% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

4/26: <M>

• Cases: 32,875,045 (+47,456 [+50,656] | ΔW Change: ↓7.96% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)
• Deaths: 586,611 (+459 | ΔW Change: ↓4.57% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)

4/27: <T>

• Cases: 32,927,091 (+52,046 | ΔW Change: ↓15.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.16%)
• Deaths: 587,384 (+773 | ΔW Change: ↓15.43% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)

4/28: <W>

• Cases: 32,983,695 (+56,604 | ΔW Change: ↓13.69% | Σ Increase: ↑0.17%)
• Deaths: 588,337 (+954 | ΔW Change: ↑9.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.16%)

4/29: <Þ>

• Cases: 33,044,068 (+60,373 | ΔW Change: ↓9.99% | Σ Increase: ↑0.18%)
• Deaths: 589,207 (+870 | ΔW Change: ↓2.90% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)

4/30: <F>

• Cases: 33,103,974 (+59,906 | ΔW Change: ↓9.35% | Σ Increase: ↑0.18%)
• Deaths: 590,055 (+784 [+848] | ΔW Change: ↓2.85% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)

5/1: <S>

• Cases: 33,146,008 (+42,034 | ΔW Change: ↓22.79% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)
• Deaths: 590,704 (+649 | ΔW Change: ↓12.53% | Σ Increase: ↑0.11%)

5/2: <Sunday>

• Cases: 33,180,441 (+30,701 [+34,433] | ΔW Change: ↓11.62% | Σ Increase: ↑0.10%)
• Deaths: 591,062 (+312 [+358] | ΔW Change: ↑14.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)

5/3: <M>

• Cases: 33,230,561 (+39,767 [+50,120] | ΔW Change: ↓16.20% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)
• Deaths: 591,514 (+452 | ΔW Change: ↓1.53% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)

5/4: <T>

• Cases: 33,274,659 (+44,098 | ΔW Change: ↓15.27% | Σ Increase: ↑0.13%)
• Deaths: 592,409 (+895 | ΔW Change: ↑15.78% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)

5/5: <W>

• Cases: 33,321,244 (+46,585 | ΔW Change: ↓17.70% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)
• Deaths: 593,148 (+739 | ΔW Change: ↓22.54% | Σ Increase: ↑0.12%)

5/6: <Þ>

• Cases: 33,369,192 (+47,948 | ΔW Change: ↓20.58% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)
• Deaths: 594,006 (+858 | ΔW Change: ↓1.38% | Σ Increase: ↑0.14%)

5/7 (Yesterday): <F>

• Cases: 33,418,826 (+49,634 | ΔW Change: ↓17.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)
• Deaths: 594,911 (+777 [+905] | ΔW Change: ↓0.89% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)

5/8 (Today): <S>

• Cases: 33,454,581 (+35,755 | ΔW Change: ↓14.94% | Σ Increase: ↑0.11%)
• Deaths: 595,588 (+677 | ΔW Change: ↑4.31% | Σ Increase: ↑0.11%)

[Beet]

A new study published earlier this week estimates that more than 900,000 Americans have died from COVID-19, nearly double the amount recorded by health officials and trackers.

Data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, for example, has the coronavirus death toll in the US at around 581,000 people. A tracker from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a number within the same range, at about 577,000 deaths.

“We’ve been saying – and the CDC has been saying all along – that it is very likely that we’re undercounting,” Fauci, the director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/fauci-no-doubt-undercount-covid-19-death-toll-2021-5

Very bad news. In comparison the number of people who died from the flu in recent years ranged from 23,000 to 61,000 annually. And without containment measures it would have been even worse. So the idea that the pandemic was nothing was obviously wrong.

[Calthrina950]

A new study published earlier this week estimates that more than 900,000 Americans have died from COVID-19, nearly double the amount recorded by health officials and trackers.

Data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, for example, has the coronavirus death toll in the US at around 581,000 people. A tracker from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a number within the same range, at about 577,000 deaths.

“We’ve been saying – and the CDC has been saying all along – that it is very likely that we’re undercounting,” Fauci, the director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/fauci-no-doubt-undercount-covid-19-death-toll-2021-5

Very bad news. In comparison the number of people who died from the flu in recent years ranged from 23,000 to 61,000 annually. And without containment measures it would have been even worse. So the idea that the pandemic was nothing was obviously wrong.

If this is true, that means coronavirus has killed more Americans than either the Civil War or the Spanish Flu did.