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« Reply #2325 on: January 23, 2021, 05:16:03 PM »

COVID helped Biden, not Trump. Trump would have won if not for COVID.
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« Reply #2326 on: January 23, 2021, 07:07:34 PM »

COVID helped Biden, not Trump. Trump would have won if not for COVID.

COVID could have been a gift to Trump if he and his administration acted competently and smart though. Just look at how his approval rating spiked when the pandemic first started. That was a sign that Americans, regardless of their personal feelings towards him, were looking to him to finally prove himself as a leader and he failed miserably in turn by getting overconfident and shooting himself in the foot (as always) by prioritizing shallow concepts like the stock market over transparency and public health. It was a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Additionally when that was finally evident (probably beginning with the infamous "inject disinfect" press conference) Biden was then able to be that leader Americans looked to, especially Democrats. Trump handed him a real opportunity to have a coherent, unifying message and major contrast. As I saw it, the pandemic was what really caused Biden skeptics from the primary, among others like anti-Trump Republicans some of whom turned Independents or Democrats as well, to embrace him and unite behind him against Trump's failed leadership.
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« Reply #2327 on: January 24, 2021, 03:07:35 AM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 1/23 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE: What's the overall change in the total?

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1/10: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 22,917,334 (+217,396 | ΔW Change: ↑4.10% | Σ Increase: ↑0.96%)
  • Deaths: 383,275 (+1,795 | ΔW Change: ↑28.58% | Σ Increase: ↑0.47%)

1/11: <M>
  • Cases: 23,143,197 (+225,863 | ΔW Change: ↓5.70% | Σ Increase: ↑0.99%)
  • Deaths: 385,249 (+1,974 | ΔW Change: ↓3.47% | Σ Increase: ↑0.52%)

1/12: <T>
  • Cases: 23,368,225 (+225,028 | ΔW Change: ↓0.23% | Σ Increase: ↑0.97%)
  • Deaths: 389,599 (+4,350 | ΔW Change: ↑24.39% | Σ Increase: ↑1.13%)

1/13: <W>
  • Cases: 23,616,345 (+248,120 | ΔW Change: ↓11.07% | Σ Increase: ↑1.06%)
  • Deaths: 393,928 (+4,329 | ΔW Change: ↓0.94% | Σ Increase: ↑1.11%)

1/14: <Þ>
  • Cases: 23,848,410 (+232,065 | ΔW Change: ↓15.44% | Σ Increase: ↑0.98%)
  • Deaths: 397,994 (+4,066 | ΔW Change: ↓1.64% | Σ Increase: ↑1.03%)

1/15: <F>
  • Cases: 24,102,429 (+254,019 | ΔW Change: ↓21.81% | Σ Increase: ↑1.07%)
  • Deaths: 401,856 (+3,862 | ΔW Change: ↓4.05% | Σ Increase: ↑0.97%)

1/16: <S>
  • Cases: 24,306,043 (+203,614 | ΔW Change: ↓16.22% | Σ Increase: ↑0.84%)
  • Deaths: 405,261 (+3,405 | ΔW Change: ↑2.22% | Σ Increase: ↑0.85%)

1/17: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 24,482,050 (+176,007 | ΔW Change: ↓19.04% | Σ Increase: ↑0.72%)
  • Deaths: 407,202 (+1,941 | ΔW Change: ↑8.13% | Σ Increase: ↑0.48%)

1/18: <M>
  • Cases: 24,626,376 (+144,326 | ΔW Change: ↓36.10% | Σ Increase: ↑0.59%)
  • Deaths: 408,620 (+1,418 | ΔW Change: ↓28.17% | Σ Increase: ↑0.35%)

1/19: <T>
  • Cases: 24,806,964 (+180,588 | ΔW Change: ↓19.75% | Σ Increase: ↑0.73%)
  • Deaths: 411,486 (+2,866 | ΔW Change: ↓34.11% | Σ Increase: ↑0.70%)

1/20: <W>
  • Cases: 24,998,975 (+192,011 | ΔW Change: ↓22.61% | Σ Increase: ↑0.77%)
  • Deaths: 415,894 (+4,408 | ΔW Change: ↑1.82% | Σ Increase: ↑1.07%)

1/21: <Þ>
  • Cases: 25,196,086 (+197,111 | ΔW Change: ↓15.06% | Σ Increase: ↑0.79%)
  • Deaths: 420,285 (+4,391 | ΔW Change: ↑7.99% | Σ Increase: ↑1.06%)

1/22 (Yesterday): <F>
  • Cases: 25,390,042 (+193,956 | ΔW Change: ↓23.65% | Σ Increase: ↑0.77%)
  • Deaths: 424,177 (+3,892 | ΔW Change: ↑0.78% | Σ Increase: ↑0.93%)

1/23 (Today): <S>
  • Cases: 25,566,789 (+176,747 | ΔW Change: ↓13.20% | Σ Increase: ↑0.82%)
  • Deaths: 427,635 (+3,458 | ΔW Change: ↑1.56% | Σ Increase: ↑0.82%)
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« Reply #2328 on: January 24, 2021, 03:47:25 AM »

COVID helped Biden, not Trump. Trump would have won if not for COVID.

COVID could have been a gift to Trump if he and his administration acted competently and smart though. Just look at how his approval rating spiked when the pandemic first started. That was a sign that Americans, regardless of their personal feelings towards him, were looking to him to finally prove himself as a leader and he failed miserably in turn by getting overconfident and shooting himself in the foot (as always) by prioritizing shallow concepts like the stock market over transparency and public health. It was a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Additionally when that was finally evident (probably beginning with the infamous "inject disinfect" press conference) Biden was then able to be that leader Americans looked to, especially Democrats. Trump handed him a real opportunity to have a coherent, unifying message and major contrast. As I saw it, the pandemic was what really caused Biden skeptics from the primary, among others like anti-Trump Republicans some of whom turned Independents or Democrats as well, to embrace him and unite behind him against Trump's failed leadership.

Honestly, given the final closeness in crucial states like GA, AZ, & WI, a Trump win wouldn't have even required him finally proving himself as a leader as you describe so much as literally just going so far as to maybe wear a mask every now & then, & maybe giving an extra sh*t or 2 about a Sept. stimulus check. That he couldn't just further proves what a complete dumbass he is, always has been, & always will be.
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« Reply #2329 on: January 24, 2021, 05:44:59 AM »

COVID helped Biden, not Trump. Trump would have won if not for COVID.

It's really hard to claim this considering we have no idea what other problems would've come up without it. An entire year was lost, this wasn't something that came up a month or two before the election.
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« Reply #2330 on: January 24, 2021, 07:25:35 AM »

COVID helped Biden, not Trump. Trump would have won if not for COVID.

Yes, Trump used the press conferences as an opportunity to shine the limelight on himself and neglected the fact that the science was operating on a whole new level and he needed to get out of the way.

His media strategy in amongst scientists made him look insufficient. Dr Fauci and Dr Birx are not contestants on The Apprentice.

His one chance to be xenophobic, he failed.

Trump could have got all returning visitors and citizens to quarantine in remote Alaska or Nevada which would have delayed COVID-19 considerably.

Easy in hindsight, but I think it did cost him the election.
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« Reply #2331 on: January 24, 2021, 07:40:06 AM »

I think Trump could've easily won the popular vote as well with a strong response to the virus. He basically ruined Dr Birx's career, who happened to be one of the leading HIV/AIDS researchers. I am somewhat sympathetic to her circumstance. He overran Dr Facui at almost every opportunity. We now know that he was barred from appearing on programs like Rachel Maddow.

I really do think Trump could've easily won this election (and the popular vote). All he had to do was be an example and wear a mask on a regular basis, make full use of the Defense Production Act, and allow scientists like Dr Fauci and Dr Birx to explain things to the American people. He failed on all of that and that alone should disqualify anyone from holding the Presidency.
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« Reply #2332 on: January 24, 2021, 03:33:30 PM »

Yes, yes, as always, Trump could have won if he wasn't Trump.
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« Reply #2333 on: January 24, 2021, 07:11:53 PM »

COVID helped Biden, not Trump. Trump would have won if not for COVID.

COVID could have been a gift to Trump if he and his administration acted competently and smart though. Just look at how his approval rating spiked when the pandemic first started. That was a sign that Americans, regardless of their personal feelings towards him, were looking to him to finally prove himself as a leader and he failed miserably in turn by getting overconfident and shooting himself in the foot (as always) by prioritizing shallow concepts like the stock market over transparency and public health. It was a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Additionally when that was finally evident (probably beginning with the infamous "inject disinfect" press conference) Biden was then able to be that leader Americans looked to, especially Democrats. Trump handed him a real opportunity to have a coherent, unifying message and major contrast. As I saw it, the pandemic was what really caused Biden skeptics from the primary, among others like anti-Trump Republicans some of whom turned Independents or Democrats as well, to embrace him and unite behind him against Trump's failed leadership.

Honestly, given the final closeness in crucial states like GA, AZ, & WI, a Trump win wouldn't have even required him finally proving himself as a leader as you describe so much as literally just going so far as to maybe wear a mask every now & then, & maybe giving an extra sh*t or 2 about a Sept. stimulus check. That he couldn't just further proves what a complete dumbass he is, always has been, & always will be.

It was obviously closer than expected and I largely credit that to Trump having more of an incumbency advantage than it seemed, especially with the nation's polarization and some of its apathy in the face of the pandemic. That did a lot to blunt the impact the dystopia he created should have had. We lucked out that enough Americans actually gave a s*** after all.
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« Reply #2334 on: January 24, 2021, 09:12:46 PM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 1/24 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE: What's the overall change in the total?

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1/17: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 24,482,050 (+176,007 | ΔW Change: ↓19.04% | Σ Increase: ↑0.72%)
  • Deaths: 407,202 (+1,941 | ΔW Change: ↑8.13% | Σ Increase: ↑0.48%)

1/18: <M>
  • Cases: 24,626,376 (+144,326 | ΔW Change: ↓36.10% | Σ Increase: ↑0.59%)
  • Deaths: 408,620 (+1,418 | ΔW Change: ↓28.17% | Σ Increase: ↑0.35%)

1/19: <T>
  • Cases: 24,806,964 (+180,588 | ΔW Change: ↓19.75% | Σ Increase: ↑0.73%)
  • Deaths: 411,486 (+2,866 | ΔW Change: ↓34.11% | Σ Increase: ↑0.70%)

1/20: <W>
  • Cases: 24,998,975 (+192,011 | ΔW Change: ↓22.61% | Σ Increase: ↑0.77%)
  • Deaths: 415,894 (+4,408 | ΔW Change: ↑1.82% | Σ Increase: ↑1.07%)

1/21: <Þ>
  • Cases: 25,196,086 (+197,111 | ΔW Change: ↓15.06% | Σ Increase: ↑0.79%)
  • Deaths: 420,285 (+4,391 | ΔW Change: ↑7.99% | Σ Increase: ↑1.06%)

1/22: <F>
  • Cases: 25,390,042 (+193,956 | ΔW Change: ↓23.65% | Σ Increase: ↑0.77%)
  • Deaths: 424,177 (+3,892 | ΔW Change: ↑0.78% | Σ Increase: ↑0.93%)

1/23 (Yesterday): <S>
  • Cases: 25,566,789 (+176,747 | ΔW Change: ↓13.20% | Σ Increase: ↑0.82%)
  • Deaths: 427,635 (+3,458 | ΔW Change: ↑1.56% | Σ Increase: ↑0.82%)

1/24 (Today): <Sunday>
  • Cases: 25,702,125 (+135,336 | ΔW Change: ↓23.11% | Σ Increase: ↑0.53%)
  • Deaths: 429,490 (+1,855 | ΔW Change: ↓4.43% | Σ Increase: ↑0.43%)
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« Reply #2335 on: January 24, 2021, 09:39:21 PM »

Very good consistent trend in cases.
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« Reply #2336 on: January 24, 2021, 09:40:45 PM »

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« Reply #2337 on: January 24, 2021, 10:35:06 PM »

Dodge City, Kan., just repealed its mask ordinance because "people are tired of it." Granted, the case count there did drop by 90%, so the situation isn't as bad there as it was.
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« Reply #2338 on: January 24, 2021, 11:29:04 PM »

Will the peak of the entire pandemic be on Jan 11th? (according to worldometers, 7-day average)
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« Reply #2339 on: January 24, 2021, 11:34:42 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2021, 12:18:02 AM by Roll Roons »

Will the peak of the entire pandemic be on Jan 11th? (according to worldometers, 7-day average)

Let’s sincerely hope so. Though with vaccines being distributed and Johnson & Johnson likely to come soon, there's a good chance it was.
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« Reply #2340 on: January 25, 2021, 12:16:38 AM »

Will the peak of the entire pandemic be on Jan 11th? (according to worldometers, 7-day average)

Let’s sincerely hope so.
Probably the only thing we can do.
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« Reply #2341 on: January 25, 2021, 02:02:28 AM »

It was announced today that Newsom has decided to repeal the state's stay-at-home order (permitting outdoor dining and indoor salons) for reasons that, he assures us, are totally unrelated to the recall petition. We only make decisions based on the data and the science in California, after all. Never mind that ICU capacity's still at 0% and that state scientists just identified a new, more virulent strain here — the data says we should open up.

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« Reply #2342 on: January 25, 2021, 06:05:46 AM »



Is this legal? Wouldn't it be the sort of issue that is decided state by state or even county by county?
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« Reply #2343 on: January 25, 2021, 10:14:07 AM »



Is this legal? Wouldn't it be the sort of issue that is decided state by state or even county by county?

This is definitely within the power of the federal government in general as a regulation of interstate commerce.

Whether it can be done by executive order as opposed to actual legislation is a bit more of a controversial question, though I still think it would be permitted given all the other stuff that is done through executive order in the modern era.
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« Reply #2344 on: January 25, 2021, 10:22:49 AM »

Presidents have more power over federal property. If it's just some local bus service, the federal government doesn't have much power over that.
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« Reply #2345 on: January 25, 2021, 12:12:58 PM »

Presidents have more power over federal property. If it's just some local bus service, the federal government doesn't have much power over that.

The federal government does have the power to regulate local buses.  They are considered part of interstate commerce even if they don't literally cross state lines.  This is the exact power used to justify the civil rights act which outlawed segregation on buses.
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« Reply #2346 on: January 25, 2021, 12:21:26 PM »

The CDC has been given broad statutory authority (an intelligible principle, if you will, for anybody who knows about the nondelegation doctrine) to take actions deemed reasonably necessary to prevent the spread of a communicable disease. This would clearly constitute such an action.
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« Reply #2347 on: January 25, 2021, 12:27:41 PM »

The federal government does have the power to regulate local buses.  They are considered part of interstate commerce even if they don't literally cross state lines.  This is the exact power used to justify the civil rights act which outlawed segregation on buses.

Wasn't the civil rights act different though because it was a legislative (not executive) action?

There are some fields of the law where it wouldn't be practical to have everything done by legislative action. For instance, if a new radio or TV station wants a license, they would apply to the FCC, not Congress. I just thought having CDC orders for local buses was different from that.
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« Reply #2349 on: January 25, 2021, 06:03:16 PM »



Further proof Cuomo is complete garbage and belongs behind bars rather than behind the governor's desk.
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