COVID-19 Megathread 6: Return of the Omicron

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Why are women so much less likely to say they will get it than men?

I'd strongly wager the majority of anti vaxxers are women. There's a lot of overlap with new age religion, crystals, that kind of thing. Mommy groups are filled to the brim with this garbage.

I’m aware the majority of hardcore anti-vaxxers are women.  But I figured this is a tiny minority of the overall population.  It’s troubling that this pattern also appears true at such a wider level among the entire population.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://twitter.com/patrickdehahn/status/1336850552362315778

[ilikeverin]

Why are women so much less likely to say they will get it than men?

This is true across a lot of "health and wellness" sort of things. IIRC, women are also less likely to like GMOs and more likely to buy organic, and are much more likely to be anti-vaxxers.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Why are women so much less likely to say they will get it than men?

This is true across a lot of "health and wellness" sort of things. IIRC, women are also less likely to like GMOs and more likely to buy organic, and are much more likely to be anti-vaxxers.

The anti vaxxer crowd also seems like the people who would try a all fruit diet if they had cancer.

[Dr. Arch]

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 12/9 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

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• IE: What's the overall change in the total?

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11/29: <Sunday>

• Cases: 13,750,404 (+140,047 | ΔW Change: ↑1.49% | Σ Increase: ↑1.03%)
• Deaths: 273,072 (+818 | ΔW Change: ↓9.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.30%)

11/30: <M>

• Cases: 13,919,870 (+169,466 | ΔW Change: ↓10.10% | Σ Increase: ↑1.23%)
• Deaths: 274,332 (+1,260 | ΔW Change: ↑27.14% | Σ Increase: ↑0.46%)

12/1: <T>

• Cases: 14,108,490 (+188,620 | ΔW Change: ↑6.07% | Σ Increase: ↑1.36%)
• Deaths: 276,976 (+2,644 | ΔW Change: ↑19.96% | Σ Increase: ↑0.96%)

12/2: <W>

• Cases: 14,313,941 (+205,451 | ΔW Change: ↑12.30% | Σ Increase: ↑1.46%)
• Deaths: 279,865 (+2,889 | ΔW Change: ↑24.10% | Σ Increase: ↑1.04%)

12/3: <Þ-Last Þ Holiday>

• Cases: 14,535,196 (+221,255 | ΔW Change: ↑99.84% | Σ Increase: ↑1.55%)
• Deaths: 282,829 (+2,964 | ΔW Change: ↑121.83% | Σ Increase: ↑1.06%)

12/4: <F>

• Cases: 14,772,353 (+237,157 | ΔW Change: ↑15.36% | Σ Increase: ↑1.63%)
• Deaths: 285,550 (+2,721 | ΔW Change: ↑84.98% | Σ Increase: ↑0.96%)

12/5: <S>

• Cases: 14,983,425 (+211,072 | ΔW Change: ↑35.21% | Σ Increase: ↑1.43%)
• Deaths: 287,825 (+2,275 | ΔW Change: ↑85.26% | Σ Increase: ↑0.80%)

12/6: <Sunday>

• Cases: 15,159,259 (+175,834 | ΔW Change: ↑25.55% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)
• Deaths: 288,906 (+1,081 | ΔW Change: ↑32.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.38%)

12/7: <M>

• Cases: 15,369,046 (+209,787 | ΔW Change: ↑23.79% | Σ Increase: ↑1.38%)
• Deaths: 290,443 (+1,537 | ΔW Change: ↑21.98% | Σ Increase: ↑0.53%)

12/8 (Yesterday): <T>

• Cases: 15,591,709 (+222,663 | ΔW Change: ↑18.05% | Σ Increase: ↑1.45%)
• Deaths: 293,398 (+2,955 | ΔW Change: ↑11.76% | Σ Increase: ↑1.02%)

12/9 (Today): <W>

• Cases: 15,820,042 (+228,333 | ΔW Change: ↑11.14% | Σ Increase: ↑1.46%)
• Deaths: 296,698 (+3,300 | ΔW Change: ↑14.23% | Σ Increase: ↑1.12%)

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

There's a debate about how many people to vaccine, whether we should prioritize giving as many doses as we have now, or only half so that the people who get it can get the booster also a few weeks later

https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1337061974560165890?s=20

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Yeah, I don't really see why we should be holding vaccines back for second doses.  The data shows that just getting the first dose is just over 50% effective by itself, and a lot of people who get the first dose won't get the second dose regardless, so from an efficiency standpoint, it seems like we should be using the vaccines we have as quickly as we can use them.

[GP270watch]

 If the data is correct that even one of the total two doses has a positive effect in reducing transmission then it's completely unconscionable to not implement the vaccine immediately. Assuming that data is correct.

 The only exception I think they should make is medical workers. They need their total doses reserved since they are the most important of citizens right now and they risk high exposure.

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

Yeah, I don't really see why we should be holding vaccines back for second doses.  The data shows that just getting the first dose is just over 50% effective by itself, and a lot of people who get the first dose won't get the second dose regardless, so from an efficiency standpoint, it seems like we should be using the vaccines we have as quickly as we can use them.

If anything, that effectiveness estimate is probably low from a practical standpoint, since many of those infections occurred in the first week after receiving it before the vaccine could really take effect. Makes absolutely no sense to be reserving large number of doses for later, unless there is evidence that the single dose is significantly less effective in already vulnerable populations than in the population at large.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Interesting article about countries with more lenient covid rules but very few cases...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/davidmack/countries-without-coronavirus-no-covid

I feel great for the people in those countries, but this makes me so damn mad. Why can't America loosen its rules like those countries did? Because America would rather mimic China, that's why.

I am ashamed to say I ever was in the same party as Gavin Newsom or Gretchen Whitmer. Instead of copying Sweden, they copied China.

There should be a monument dedicated to victims of neoliberal authoritarianism.

[DINGO Joe]

You'd have to be a substantial moron to tout Sweden as successful vs Covid at this point.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

You'd have to be a substantial moron to tout Sweden as successful vs Covid at this point.

Their death rate isn't as bad as America's is.

[DINGO Joe]

You'd have to be a substantial moron to tout Sweden as successful vs Covid at this point.

Their death rate isn't as bad as America's is.

Yeah, we're just a little different as a society than Sweden.  Why don't you compare apples to apples?  How is Sweden doing compared to Norway or Finland?  Why does Sweden have a death rate 10X their neighbors?

[GP270watch]

Interesting article about countries with more lenient covid rules but very few cases...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/davidmack/countries-without-coronavirus-no-covid

I feel great for the people in those countries, but this makes me so damn mad. Why can't America loosen its rules like those countries did? Because America would rather mimic China, that's why.

I am ashamed to say I ever was in the same party as Gavin Newsom or Gretchen Whitmer. Instead of copying Sweden, they copied China.

There should be a monument dedicated to victims of neoliberal authoritarianism.

 This post is dishonest. The link mentions New Zealand and Australia, countries that took the pandemic very seriously and rooted it out by containing spread. You need to paint a complete picture.

[GP270watch]

You'd have to be a substantial moron to tout Sweden as successful vs Covid at this point.

Their death rate isn't as bad as America's is.

Yeah, we're just a little different as a society than Sweden.  Why don't you compare apples to apples?  How is Sweden doing compared to Norway or Finland?  Why does Sweden have a death rate 10X their neighbors?

 Sweden just demoted the guy who strategized their pandemic response so obviously they're not happy with the results.

[QAnonKelly]

Okay I just need to rant about this to someone I don't know. My uncle tested positive today after not feeling well since Monday. He didn't tell my cousin who came over to my house. I only saw my cousin for about forty five minutes because I went to work. However, my uncle who's an anti masker won't go get him tested. He probably had it this summer but he doesn't know because his dad wouldn't get him tested then either. I haven't seen my uncle in a month. So now my entire immediate family has potentially been exposed and we're all just waiting in the balance.

Thankfully I have access to rapid testing at work but no one else in my family does and we still won't know if we're completely clear for two weeks, potentially throwing Christmas into chaos.   

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1337107321365753856

[Pericles]

Yeah it's great that we can live a normal life in New Zealand. The reason for that is that we went hard and early so we don't have any community transmission of Covid. The US is in a much different and worse situation.

[free my dawg]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1337107321365753856

For context, he likely caught it at new member orientation. There had been a COVID outbreak among legislators beforehand, and Hinch didn't see a need to institute a mask mandate because he trusted his legislators to not show if they had COVID. Even then, there were times where he wasn't wearing his mask properly.

Wear your masks, folks, and make sure they cover your noses.

[ilikeverin]

The FDA expert's panel voted 17-4-1 to endorse the Pfizer vaccine; the no and abstain votes were mostly from folks who seemed worried that they were endorsing it for anyone 16 and older (they wanted it to be 18 and older, as there wasn't much evidence about 16 and 17 year olds). Otherwise, the data seemed very strong. We'll probably have approval in the next few days, as early as tomorrow.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Here's another chart-topping smash from the "why nobody trusts the media" greatest hits collection.

The media has reported multiple times that South Dakota (the state with the most lenient covid rules) has the highest per capita number of covid deaths. But this isn't even close to being true. New Jersey, New York, and Massachusetts make up the top 3, and those states were pretty strict.

Not sure why the media chooses to make up stuff. Maybe it's something against the northern Plains, or the Midwest in general. Maybe they're mad because a person from South Dakota hurt their feelings or something.

There were some journalists and commentators who I respected a lot before this, but my respect for them is out the window now.

[It’s so Joever]

Here's another chart-topping smash from the "why nobody trusts the media" greatest hits collection.

The media has reported multiple times that South Dakota (the state with the most lenient covid rules) has the highest per capita number of covid deaths. But this isn't even close to being true. New Jersey, New York, and Massachusetts make up the top 3, and those states were pretty strict.

Not sure why the media chooses to make up stuff. Maybe it's something against the northern Plains, or the Midwest in general. Maybe they're mad because a person from South Dakota hurt their feelings or something.

There were some journalists and commentators who I respected a lot before this, but my respect for them is out the window now.

Do they explicitly say highest death/per capita death rate for the entire span of the pandemic, or are they implying within the past few weeks?
That would be important to know.
And yes the situation in the Dakotas was pretty damn bad and arguably was one of the worst purely by the numbers just a few weeks ago anyways.

[emailking]

Here's another chart-topping smash from the "why nobody trusts the media" greatest hits collection.

The media has reported multiple times that South Dakota (the state with the most lenient covid rules) has the highest per capita number of covid deaths. But this isn't even close to being true. New Jersey, New York, and Massachusetts make up the top 3, and those states were pretty strict.

Not sure why the media chooses to make up stuff. Maybe it's something against the northern Plains, or the Midwest in general. Maybe they're mad because a person from South Dakota hurt their feelings or something.

There were some journalists and commentators who I respected a lot before this, but my respect for them is out the window now.

I haven't seen this reported anywhere. Cursory googling I could only find stories claiming this for the past week.

[Dr. Arch]

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 12/10 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.

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11/29: <Sunday>

• Cases: 13,750,404 (+140,047 | ΔW Change: ↑1.49% | Σ Increase: ↑1.03%)
• Deaths: 273,072 (+818 | ΔW Change: ↓9.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.30%)

11/30: <M>

• Cases: 13,919,870 (+169,466 | ΔW Change: ↓10.10% | Σ Increase: ↑1.23%)
• Deaths: 274,332 (+1,260 | ΔW Change: ↑27.14% | Σ Increase: ↑0.46%)

12/1: <T>

• Cases: 14,108,490 (+188,620 | ΔW Change: ↑6.07% | Σ Increase: ↑1.36%)
• Deaths: 276,976 (+2,644 | ΔW Change: ↑19.96% | Σ Increase: ↑0.96%)

12/2: <W>

• Cases: 14,313,941 (+205,451 | ΔW Change: ↑12.30% | Σ Increase: ↑1.46%)
• Deaths: 279,865 (+2,889 | ΔW Change: ↑24.10% | Σ Increase: ↑1.04%)

12/3: <Þ-Last Þ Holiday>

• Cases: 14,535,196 (+221,255 | ΔW Change: ↑99.84% | Σ Increase: ↑1.55%)
• Deaths: 282,829 (+2,964 | ΔW Change: ↑121.83% | Σ Increase: ↑1.06%)

12/4: <F>

• Cases: 14,772,353 (+237,157 | ΔW Change: ↑15.36% | Σ Increase: ↑1.63%)
• Deaths: 285,550 (+2,721 | ΔW Change: ↑84.98% | Σ Increase: ↑0.96%)

12/5: <S>

• Cases: 14,983,425 (+211,072 | ΔW Change: ↑35.21% | Σ Increase: ↑1.43%)
• Deaths: 287,825 (+2,275 | ΔW Change: ↑85.26% | Σ Increase: ↑0.80%)

12/6: <Sunday>

• Cases: 15,159,259 (+175,834 | ΔW Change: ↑25.55% | Σ Increase: ↑1.17%)
• Deaths: 288,906 (+1,081 | ΔW Change: ↑32.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.38%)

12/7: <M>

• Cases: 15,369,046 (+209,787 | ΔW Change: ↑23.79% | Σ Increase: ↑1.38%)
• Deaths: 290,443 (+1,537 | ΔW Change: ↑21.98% | Σ Increase: ↑0.53%)

12/8: <T>

• Cases: 15,591,709 (+222,663 | ΔW Change: ↑18.05% | Σ Increase: ↑1.45%)
• Deaths: 293,398 (+2,955 | ΔW Change: ↑11.76% | Σ Increase: ↑1.02%)

12/9 (Yesterday): <W>

• Cases: 15,820,042 (+228,333 | ΔW Change: ↑11.14% | Σ Increase: ↑1.46%)
• Deaths: 296,698 (+3,300 | ΔW Change: ↑14.23% | Σ Increase: ↑1.12%)

12/10 (Today): <Þ>

• Cases: 16,039,393 (+219,351 | ΔW Change: ↓0.86% | Σ Increase: ↑1.39%)
• Deaths: 299,692 (+2,994 | ΔW Change: ↑1.01% | Σ Increase: ↑1.01%)

[TRKL1917]

https://twitter.com/patrickdehahn/status/1336850552362315778

A large amount of excess deaths are a result of Lockdowns that cause mass unemployment and subsequent Drug overdoses, Heart attacks/strokes from Stress and bad Food, people dying from lack of medical care, along with suicides from depression caused from increased poverty and Social alienation. It’s also worth noting that of the 300,000 who have died of the virus, around 50% were in Nursing homes (in many states they put ICU patients their which caused massive outbreaks among the elderly patients), and around 80% were over 70, and hardly anybody under 50, let alone under 30, have died of it (thus showing how absurd it was to close schools and Universities). This is backed up by Antibody studies from the WHO and CDC showing a .23% and .65%, with massive age variations (Here’s a link to the WHO study https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf).

In conclusion, the sane approach would have been a targeted stay-at-home order only for the very Old and/or very Sick, while everybody else would be able to continue their normal life with only minor precautions (washing your hands and voluntary Mask wearing), that would have saved Millions of jobs, thousands of Small business's, Hundreds of thousands of excess deaths, and potentially a good chunk of the Covid-19 fatalities. The reason this wasn’t done was because the Lockdowns were never about saving people from the virus, but instead were a sneaky way for the Global Capitalist Elite (in the U$, EU, Russia, China, and all the Third World banana republics) to accelerate the 4th industrial Revolution to eliminate the Working Class.