California Senate 2024 - Schiff (D) vs Garvey (R)

[YE]

Lee seems like the most consistently progressive option here tbh. Khanna makes me nervous given his background and Porter’s SALT activism and coronavirus hawkishness are two strikes against her even if I generally like her.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Barbara Lee is IN:
https://twitter.com/nicholaswu12/status/1613230837033492487

I’ve said this before and I’ll keep saying it, why would anybody want to replace a would be 91-year-old with a would be 78-year-old that would be just 5 years younger than DiFi is now in 2030? If she was about 30 even 20 years younger I’d gladly support her. But that just isn’t the case.

It’s the 2020s, we need to stop electing 70+ year olds to office.

She’s 12 years younger than Feinstein without any signs of cognitive decline. She could easily serve one term and possibly even two.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

I’ve heard rumors/rumbling that Porter/Lee have been putting their name out so early in hopes to raise their profile and get nominated to replace Feinstein should she not complete her term.

Also Lee would be a good candidate to balance Padilla, NorCal Pol Woman with a SoCal Hispanic Man

[JM1295]

Honestly, I don't care about Lee's age at all here. Even if she only serves one term, it'd be worth it to see her elected to the Senate. She's been an icon to the left for decades and would be amazing even for just one 6-year Senate run.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Honestly, I don't care about Lee's age at all here. Even if she only serves one term, it'd be worth it to see her elected to the Senate. She's been an icon to the left for decades and would be amazing even for just one 6-year Senate run.

This. Plus it’d give the left six years to come up with a good candidate in 2030 (Scott Wiener)?

[Suburbia]

Barbara Lee is the Black female option, because a lot of black activists don't trust Katie Porter

There's no lane for white guys like Adam Schiff, etc.

Lee or Porter wins the whole thing

California Republicans shouldn't even bother

[Canis]

Barbara Lee is IN:
https://twitter.com/nicholaswu12/status/1613230837033492487

Ro also retweeted this last night which seems to indicate he won't run if Barbara Lee does. https://twitter.com/dylanewells/status/1612929959307214850

[Unbeatable Titan Susan Collins]

California Republicans shouldn't even bother

If California Republicans were smart they would throw their support to  a moderate dem although I have no idea who that would be.

But the CA GOP will just run several candidates with no shot of making the top 2

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

California Republicans shouldn't even bother

If California Republicans were smart they would throw their support to  a moderate dem although I have no idea who that would be.

But the CA GOP will just run several candidates with no shot of making the top 2

Gil Cisneros maybe?

[RFK Jr.’s Brain Worm]

Where is the proof that Porter is actually terrible to her staff? The entire hubbub about those texts seemed like there was a lot of missing context and the full story wasn't really put forth (shockingly!)

Yeah, I’m wondering if this is just this one incident or if it is part of a bigger, concerning pattern.

I think that Lee is just too old, especially when we’re talking about replacing the oldest Dem in the senate. Like, I think she could serve through 2030 just fine, but I’d wonder about after that should she win and run for re-election.

[President Johnson]

I'd lean towards Lee over Porter, but if Schiff gets in, I'm strongly rooting for him. The guy deserves a promotion.

Really interesting that most hopefuls among rank and file Democrats here don't even bother to wait for the Feinstein's decision.

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

Where is the proof that Porter is actually terrible to her staff? The entire hubbub about those texts seemed like there was a lot of missing context and the full story wasn't really put forth (shockingly!)

For what its worth, I don't think any California news outlets have reported on it. It certainly wasn't brought up during yesterday's round of announcement articles.

The only ones I've seen reporting it are Fox News, NY Post and various right-wing news outlets

[Canis]

Where is the proof that Porter is actually terrible to her staff? The entire hubbub about those texts seemed like there was a lot of missing context and the full story wasn't really put forth (shockingly!)

Yeah, I’m wondering if this is just this one incident or if it is part of a bigger, concerning pattern.

I think that Lee is just too old, especially when we’re talking about replacing the oldest Dem in the senate. Like, I think she could serve through 2030 just fine, but I’d wonder about after that should she win and run for re-election.

Her office has a very high turnover rate, if you look at the thread I linked earlier on there are several other complaints about abusive behavior to her staff, a lot of them are anonymous and hard to verify but the sheer number of them doesn't paint a good picture,
https://twitter.com/DWS________/status/1608683804394393603

[RFK Jr.’s Brain Worm]

Where is the proof that Porter is actually terrible to her staff? The entire hubbub about those texts seemed like there was a lot of missing context and the full story wasn't really put forth (shockingly!)

Yeah, I’m wondering if this is just this one incident or if it is part of a bigger, concerning pattern.

I think that Lee is just too old, especially when we’re talking about replacing the oldest Dem in the senate. Like, I think she could serve through 2030 just fine, but I’d wonder about after that should she win and run for re-election.

Her office has a very high turnover rate, if you look at the thread I linked earlier on there are several other complaints about abusive behavior to her staff, a lot of them are anonymous and hard to verify but the sheer number of them doesn't paint a good picture,
https://twitter.com/DWS________/status/1608683804394393603

Thanks for sharing that!

[Holmes]

a lot of black activists don't trust Katie Porter

Feels like you pulled this one out of your ass, bronz.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

a lot of black activists don't trust Katie Porter

Feels like you pulled this one out of your ass, bronz.

Well if I had to guess Porter, whose seat is just 2% black, has very little experience and probably doesn’t know many “black activists”

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Barbara Lee is IN:
https://twitter.com/nicholaswu12/status/1613230837033492487

Gross.  It’s bad enough having that nutcase in the House; hopefully she loses the primary and the country can finally be rid of her.

[Progressive Pessimist]

This is looking to be even more of a crowded primary than I expected. There isn't much harm in that in California, but now I'm a bit more apprehensive specifically of Porter abandoning her district, potentially for nothing. She is probably the only candidate from a district that is even remotely competitive. It's a different case from someone like Slotkin in Michigan leaving her competitive district since having a Senate seat in a swing state is worth a lot more.

Wouldn't it be funny though, after all this, if Feinstein decides to run again anyway and handily wins?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

This is looking to be even more of a crowded primary than I expected. There isn't much harm in that in California, but now I'm a bit more apprehensive specifically of Porter abandoning her district, potentially for nothing. She is probably the only candidate from a district that is even remotely competitive. It's a different case from someone like Slotkin in Michigan leaving her competitive district since having a Senate seat in a swing state is worth a lot more.

There’s every reason to think Porter will be a phenomenal Senator and a staunch champion of progressive causes who is actually able to get things done.  I’m not really sure how California could do better tbh.

Incidentally, I think Slotkin will be a great Senator as well and probably be able to lock down that Senate seat long-term.

[coloradocowboi]

Honestly, I don't care about Lee's age at all here. Even if she only serves one term, it'd be worth it to see her elected to the Senate. She's been an icon to the left for decades and would be amazing even for just one 6-year Senate run.

I'm 100% in on team Lee at this point. Maybe even considering throwing a job app in.

Gross.  It’s bad enough having that nutcase in the House; hopefully she loses the primary and the country can finally be rid of her.

Imagine thinking the only person who called the Afghanistan War for what it ended up being "a nutcase" FYI Soylent Green is made of people.

This. Plus it’d give the left six years to come up with a good candidate in 2030 (Scott Wiener)?

Thankfully, Scott Wiener is going nowhere. Replacing Lee with him would be a major downgrade. I would bet though that she has something worked out with Khanna, given how he is being deferential af to her. And even if he's in Congress by then, Scott will be a lightweight compared to someone like Khanna. Not sure where this leaves the gov race tho

If California Republicans were smart they would throw their support to a moderate dem although I have no idea who that would be.

But the CA GOP will just run several candidates with no shot of making the top 2

It's Adam Schiff, setting up the CAGOP for a real Sophie's Choice of a general election if its Schiff v Porter or Schiff v Lee, as I expect it will be.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Honestly, I don't care about Lee's age at all here. Even if she only serves one term, it'd be worth it to see her elected to the Senate. She's been an icon to the left for decades and would be amazing even for just one 6-year Senate run.

I'm 100% in on team Lee at this point. Maybe even considering throwing a job app in.

Gross.  It’s bad enough having that nutcase in the House; hopefully she loses the primary and the country can finally be rid of her.

Imagine thinking the only person who called the Afghanistan War for what it ended up being "a nutcase" FYI Soylent Green is made of people.

This. Plus it’d give the left six years to come up with a good candidate in 2030 (Scott Wiener)?

Thankfully, Scott Wiener is going nowhere. Replacing Lee with him would be a major downgrade. I would bet though that she has something worked out with Khanna, given how he is being deferential af to her. And even if he's in Congress by then, Scott will be a lightweight compared to someone like Khanna. Not sure where this leaves the gov race tho

If California Republicans were smart they would throw their support to a moderate dem although I have no idea who that would be.

But the CA GOP will just run several candidates with no shot of making the top 2

It's Adam Schiff, setting up the CAGOP for a real Sophie's Choice of a general election if its Schiff v Porter or Schiff v Lee, as I expect it will be.

Imagine thinking going to war with Al-Qaeda and its Taliban protectors right after 9/11 was the wrong decision.  With all due respect, it is simply a deranged position that doesn’t come close to passing the laugh test.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Honestly, I don't care about Lee's age at all here. Even if she only serves one term, it'd be worth it to see her elected to the Senate. She's been an icon to the left for decades and would be amazing even for just one 6-year Senate run.

I'm 100% in on team Lee at this point. Maybe even considering throwing a job app in.

Gross.  It’s bad enough having that nutcase in the House; hopefully she loses the primary and the country can finally be rid of her.

Imagine thinking the only person who called the Afghanistan War for what it ended up being "a nutcase" FYI Soylent Green is made of people.

This. Plus it’d give the left six years to come up with a good candidate in 2030 (Scott Wiener)?

Thankfully, Scott Wiener is going nowhere. Replacing Lee with him would be a major downgrade. I would bet though that she has something worked out with Khanna, given how he is being deferential af to her. And even if he's in Congress by then, Scott will be a lightweight compared to someone like Khanna. Not sure where this leaves the gov race tho

If California Republicans were smart they would throw their support to a moderate dem although I have no idea who that would be.

But the CA GOP will just run several candidates with no shot of making the top 2

It's Adam Schiff, setting up the CAGOP for a real Sophie's Choice of a general election if its Schiff v Porter or Schiff v Lee, as I expect it will be.

Imagine thinking going to war with Al-Qaeda and its Taliban protectors right after 9/11 was the wrong decision.  With all due respect, it is simply a deranged position that doesn’t come close to passing the laugh test.

Seriously, as soon as the Taliban refused to turn over Bin Laden for trial, it was a done deal. Afghanistan was 100% a justified and essential war, and then we spent 20 years without a plan for what to do next.

[kwabbit]

Where is the proof that Porter is actually terrible to her staff? The entire hubbub about those texts seemed like there was a lot of missing context and the full story wasn't really put forth (shockingly!)

Yeah, I’m wondering if this is just this one incident or if it is part of a bigger, concerning pattern.

I think that Lee is just too old, especially when we’re talking about replacing the oldest Dem in the senate. Like, I think she could serve through 2030 just fine, but I’d wonder about after that should she win and run for re-election.

Her office has a very high turnover rate, if you look at the thread I linked earlier on there are several other complaints about abusive behavior to her staff, a lot of them are anonymous and hard to verify but the sheer number of them doesn't paint a good picture,
https://twitter.com/DWS________/status/1608683804394393603

I wonder if Van Drew is a bad boss or if his staff just ditched him after the party switch.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Where is the proof that Porter is actually terrible to her staff? The entire hubbub about those texts seemed like there was a lot of missing context and the full story wasn't really put forth (shockingly!)

Yeah, I’m wondering if this is just this one incident or if it is part of a bigger, concerning pattern.

I think that Lee is just too old, especially when we’re talking about replacing the oldest Dem in the senate. Like, I think she could serve through 2030 just fine, but I’d wonder about after that should she win and run for re-election.

Her office has a very high turnover rate, if you look at the thread I linked earlier on there are several other complaints about abusive behavior to her staff, a lot of them are anonymous and hard to verify but the sheer number of them doesn't paint a good picture,
https://twitter.com/DWS________/status/1608683804394393603

I wonder if Van Drew is a bad boss or if his staff just ditched him after the party switch.

Probably both.

[Хahar 🤔]

It's Adam Schiff, setting up the CAGOP for a real Sophie's Choice of a general election if its Schiff v Porter or Schiff v Lee, as I expect it will be.

Yeah, I've been thinking about this. Lee is obviously the furthest left candidate, but she's not a contemporary cable news celebrity the way the other two are, so Republicans don't have an active reason to hate her. Obviously the undervote would be massive, but would Republicans vote for Barbara Lee? Given the alternative, I think they might.