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« Reply #1050 on: July 22, 2021, 03:55:49 PM »

Lol it’s literally confederate statues and MS-13 all over again. The media is garbage.
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« Reply #1051 on: July 22, 2021, 06:11:32 PM »

Interesting that the NRA didn't endorse Youngkin. Might be a positive for Youngkin but likely won't matter at all.
The NRA has lost a lot of it's former power.

https://t.co/IQAjZWYhvD?amp=1
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« Reply #1052 on: July 23, 2021, 03:06:49 AM »

There was some school board meeting in Virginia Beach that had a lot of yokels screaming about masks as if it was child abuse to have kids wear them a few hours a day in school.  It's legitimately scary to me that these people live in the same state.  That said, all these nonsense issues the GOP is trying to stir up will backfire spectacularly.  It's going to turn off the exact demographic Trumpkin needs to improve on to win. 
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« Reply #1053 on: July 23, 2021, 05:09:51 AM »

There was some school board meeting in Virginia Beach that had a lot of yokels screaming about masks as if it was child abuse to have kids wear them a few hours a day in school.  It's legitimately scary to me that these people live in the same state.  That said, all these nonsense issues the GOP is trying to stir up will backfire spectacularly.  It's going to turn off the exact demographic Trumpkin needs to improve on to win. 

Not to mention, we've now seen GOP operatives purposely going to school board meetings to stir these things up, so it's not even organic.
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« Reply #1054 on: July 23, 2021, 05:10:19 AM »

Not a great week for Trumpkin.

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« Reply #1055 on: July 23, 2021, 06:22:59 PM »

-rolls eyes-



This is just like those senior Biden voters in the Villages who flipped Florida to him due to being "fired up" over Trump's handling of the pandemic.
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« Reply #1056 on: July 26, 2021, 11:00:08 PM »

Was at the supermarket in Fairfax county the other day and some Rethuglican was yammering on about repealing school board people or something and harassing people about critical race theory and how it's destroying America (and not the virus that Trump let rage out of control).  The housewife he was pestering clearly wasn't into it and ran to her car.  He dropped his pile of propaganda right behind my car.  Had to wait a couple of minutes to back out.  This is not how you win over voters in a blue county. 

But it's pretty telling that this is the best spin they've got.  That or they actually believe this dribble.  Either way these people are a societal cancer.
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« Reply #1057 on: July 26, 2021, 11:01:13 PM »

There was some school board meeting in Virginia Beach that had a lot of yokels screaming about masks as if it was child abuse to have kids wear them a few hours a day in school.  It's legitimately scary to me that these people live in the same state.  That said, all these nonsense issues the GOP is trying to stir up will backfire spectacularly.  It's going to turn off the exact demographic Trumpkin needs to improve on to win. 

Not to mention, we've now seen GOP operatives purposely going to school board meetings to stir these things up, so it's not even organic.

Right, this is all these people seem to do.  Don't they have jobs?  They're always yammering on about socialism but can never be caught working.
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« Reply #1058 on: July 27, 2021, 10:19:48 PM »

There was some school board meeting in Virginia Beach that had a lot of yokels screaming about masks as if it was child abuse to have kids wear them a few hours a day in school.  It's legitimately scary to me that these people live in the same state.  That said, all these nonsense issues the GOP is trying to stir up will backfire spectacularly.  It's going to turn off the exact demographic Trumpkin needs to improve on to win. 

Anyone who is that keen on forcing six year olds to breathe through a mask all day is going to vote Democrat anyway.
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« Reply #1059 on: August 03, 2021, 08:47:52 AM »

Not great for Trumpkin

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« Reply #1060 on: August 03, 2021, 10:13:34 PM »

Not great for Trumpkin



I've been saying this for a while now... this guy is exceptionally overrated.  Having tons of money can't buy him a personality or political savvy. 
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« Reply #1061 on: August 03, 2021, 10:33:09 PM »




Why can't they just agree on some debates, what's going on here?
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« Reply #1062 on: August 04, 2021, 08:57:10 AM »




Why can't they just agree on some debates, what's going on here?

It's not a 'they' problem, I'm pretty sure Trumpkin is the one who had the initial issue and caused the problem.
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« Reply #1063 on: August 04, 2021, 09:24:30 AM »




Why can't they just agree on some debates, what's going on here?


I don’t know why Youngkin is so eager to debate at an HBCU, he’d be tarred and feathered
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« Reply #1064 on: August 04, 2021, 09:36:48 AM »

My analysis on the Virginia Gubernatorial election.  I still think in the end McAuliffe will most likely prevail, but if I were him, I'd be very worried looking at the polling.  McAuliffe is the de facto incumbent.  I would expect him to be running away with it.  He isn't.  The polls show it close. McAuliffe is not the invincible pol people think.  Remember, he only narrowly edged out a very polarizing opponent in 2013, and Youngkin as not as controversial as Cucinelli.  And McAuliffe left office with mediocre approval ratings.  Above water, but below 50%.  And I believe there is the sense among some moderate voters in the suburbs that Northam and the Democrats in the General Assembly have overreached the last 2 years.  Since willing the majority, the Democrats have done things like abolishing the death penalty and legalized marijuana.  They are acting like Virginia is Massachusetts.
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« Reply #1065 on: August 04, 2021, 09:52:04 AM »

My analysis on the Virginia Gubernatorial election.  I still think in the end McAuliffe will most likely prevail, but if I were him, I'd be very worried looking at the polling.  McAuliffe is the de facto incumbent.  I would expect him to be running away with it.  He isn't.  The polls show it close. McAuliffe is not the invincible pol people think.  Remember, he only narrowly edged out a very polarizing opponent in 2013, and Youngkin as not as controversial as Cucinelli.  And McAuliffe left office with mediocre approval ratings.  Above water, but below 50%.  And I believe there is the sense among some moderate voters in the suburbs that Northam and the Democrats in the General Assembly have overreached the last 2 years.  Since willing the majority, the Democrats have done things like abolishing the death penalty and legalized marijuana.  They are acting like Virginia is Massachusetts.

Well, one, there hasn't been a TON of polling. But also this is still an offyear election during a Biden midterm period so McAuliffe, even as the de facto incumbent, wouldn't be running away with it unless this was a Trump/Rep midterm IMO
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« Reply #1066 on: August 04, 2021, 10:07:24 AM »

My analysis on the Virginia Gubernatorial election.  I still think in the end McAuliffe will most likely prevail, but if I were him, I'd be very worried looking at the polling.  McAuliffe is the de facto incumbent.  I would expect him to be running away with it.  He isn't.  The polls show it close. McAuliffe is not the invincible pol people think.  Remember, he only narrowly edged out a very polarizing opponent in 2013, and Youngkin as not as controversial as Cucinelli.  And McAuliffe left office with mediocre approval ratings.  Above water, but below 50%.  And I believe there is the sense among some moderate voters in the suburbs that Northam and the Democrats in the General Assembly have overreached the last 2 years.  Since willing the majority, the Democrats have done things like abolishing the death penalty and legalized marijuana.  They are acting like Virginia is Massachusetts.

abolishing the death penalty and legalizing marijuana especially are probably the lease of the over reach...
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« Reply #1067 on: August 04, 2021, 10:27:21 AM »

My analysis on the Virginia Gubernatorial election.  I still think in the end McAuliffe will most likely prevail, but if I were him, I'd be very worried looking at the polling.  McAuliffe is the de facto incumbent.  I would expect him to be running away with it.  He isn't.  The polls show it close. McAuliffe is not the invincible pol people think.  Remember, he only narrowly edged out a very polarizing opponent in 2013, and Youngkin as not as controversial as Cucinelli.  And McAuliffe left office with mediocre approval ratings.  Above water, but below 50%.  And I believe there is the sense among some moderate voters in the suburbs that Northam and the Democrats in the General Assembly have overreached the last 2 years.  Since willing the majority, the Democrats have done things like abolishing the death penalty and legalized marijuana.  They are acting like Virginia is Massachusetts.

This was a fine take in May, but since that time Youngkin has done nothing to move the needle with the voters who he needs to win. The anti-CRT stuff is seen as embarrassing in Northern Virginia: the people who show up at those things are even more toxic to Fairfax/Loudoun voters than Trump. Youngkin has done nothing to differentiate himself from the national or state GOP, which is a pre-requisite for a Republican winning in Virginia. I'm not sure why this race has been such a polling desert, but all polls have shown McAuliffe ahead, and almost all of these have been by GOP firms.

Because there is no economic case to make against McAuliffe, the GOP has had to run on the same social and cultural issues that caused Northern Virginia (and to  slightly lesser extent RVA) sprint left in the first place. The margin may end up being close or it might not - I think high single digits is more likely than a "very close" race - but close margins should not be mistaken for uncertain outcomes. In a political environment like we have today, and with the campaign he's ran, Youngkin just doesn't have the voters to beat any Democrat, let alone a plus-candidate like McAuliffe.
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« Reply #1068 on: August 04, 2021, 11:51:27 AM »

I am terrified that  that after the election that Trumpkin supporters will come and invade Nova, Richmond, Charlottesville and Norfolk...
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« Reply #1069 on: August 04, 2021, 07:49:17 PM »

My analysis on the Virginia Gubernatorial election.  I still think in the end McAuliffe will most likely prevail, but if I were him, I'd be very worried looking at the polling.  McAuliffe is the de facto incumbent.  I would expect him to be running away with it.  He isn't.  The polls show it close. McAuliffe is not the invincible pol people think.  Remember, he only narrowly edged out a very polarizing opponent in 2013, and Youngkin as not as controversial as Cucinelli.  And McAuliffe left office with mediocre approval ratings.  Above water, but below 50%.  And I believe there is the sense among some moderate voters in the suburbs that Northam and the Democrats in the General Assembly have overreached the last 2 years.  Since willing the majority, the Democrats have done things like abolishing the death penalty and legalized marijuana.  They are acting like Virginia is Massachusetts.

Nobody thinks McAuliffe is invincible.  It's just . . . math.  Virginia isn't the same as it was in 2013.  Southwest Virginia has shrunk, NOVA has grown (considerably) and the suburbs have gotten a lot bluer everywhere. 

And sure maybe Youngkin isn't as polarizing as Cucinelli (hard feat for sure), but lets get serious here, he sucks.  He's a pitiful political candidate.  I don't know who advised him to run but I'm sure they had some kind of financial interest in it given how much ad spending he's doing.
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« Reply #1070 on: August 04, 2021, 07:57:48 PM »

The analysis of Virginia politics here is always confused about one major thing.  It doesn't matter who the Republicans nominate statewide.  It matters who the DEMOCRATS nominate for there to be a change of the race being competitive.

As long as Democrats nominate a reasonable moderate: Warner, Kaine, Northam, McAuliffe, etc., they win.  It doesn't matter if Republicans nominate someone who looks like a moderate or even is a moderate.  As long as the Democratic candidate is good that is sufficient.  If Democrats nominate a weak candidate (e.g., a Bernie Sanders type who tanks their margins in the suburbs) then it CAN be competitive if the Republican candidate is also good. 

The Republican candidate being good is necessary but not sufficient to win.
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« Reply #1071 on: August 04, 2021, 10:24:15 PM »

I am terrified that  that after the election that Trumpkin supporters will come and invade Nova, Richmond, Charlottesville and Norfolk...


what on earth are you talking about?
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« Reply #1072 on: August 05, 2021, 10:16:20 AM »

"Trumpkin" is the name all Democrats in the state of Virginia should be using, and pay no attention to anything else.  Tie him completely to the Insurrection and to the Orange Menace - and use culture war issues to drive up progressive turnout.  Flip the Karl Rove playbook on the Republicans and start talking about how much the Virginia Republicans hate LGBTQ people.  Especially on the college campuses.
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« Reply #1073 on: August 05, 2021, 11:22:52 AM »

The pundit class appears to be living in a completely different Virginia reality than everyone else.

It appears the only articles they can write about Virginia are literally "Critical race theory in the suburbs~~!!!!"

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« Reply #1074 on: August 05, 2021, 06:14:39 PM »

I am terrified that  that after the election that Trumpkin supporters will come and invade Nova, Richmond, Charlottesville and Norfolk...


what on earth are you talking about?

Yeah, I mean, Trump supporters would never invade Charlottesville!
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