Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Yes, sure, Russian shelled themselves just like in Donetsk all these years.

I think it is reasonable that what took place was either

a) Russians executed these POWs and then claim it was the Ukrainian shelling
b) It was Ukrainian shelling that missed and hit the POW camp

What does not make sense is the Russians shelling their own POW camp.  That seems to destroy their own PWO camp infrastructure which they have build up again at cost.

So, what is the Ukrainian narrative actually claiming?

[Badger]

Of course only the dog was the only one brave enough to try and help.
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1552012564485267456

Ukraine now publishing their own war crimes.

FSB agents. Hahaha!

[Badger]

If taking out FSB agents with a switchblade is a "war crime", I wonder what this is.
https://twitter.com/missOlga1201/status/1552278753035919361

Yeah yeah yeah, fsb agent aka moldovan citizen

You truly are a piece of.....work.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

This thread doesn't really seem to be up-to-date with regards to the state of the nuclear energy debate in Germany btw.

It is still subject to the outcome of ongoing feasibility and safety studies and there are a lot of practical issues to be solved like the uncertain short-term supply with new fuel rods, but given that Green Vice-chancellor Robert Habeck hasn't ruled out the extension anymore yesterday, I'm inclined to predict that the nuclear power phase-out will likely be postponed/cancelled.

That would make logical sense.  Another thing to do would be what they already doing which is to ramp up coal usage.  I would be eager to hear from the German Green Party and Greta Thunberg when these two decisions are locked in.

No disagreement there. For sure, Germany has to do something regarding their energy needs...
How is Turkey faring on that front?

[Badger]

Yes, sure, Russian shelled themselves just like in Donetsk all these years.

I'm not going to talk to russian bot and supporter of genocide. Go f#uck yourself, putin's puppet

[😥]

https://twitter.com/KremlinTrolls/status/1552717066112798723?t=z7dErQyHa2Vho9NvL...

https://twitter.com/KremlinTrolls/status/1552720586870251525?t=6mzhloy7Ncyeo5GIk...

These Russian animals must be caught and killed

A continuation of this video, filmed by Russian pigs, appeared. After the genitals of the Ukrainian prisoner were cut off, his scalp was removed, he was shot in the head, after which his body was dragged along the ground for a long time and thrown into a pit.

I won't post that video or link to it here, but it's the worst thing I've ever seen in my life.

But putin's puppet and genocide supporter bilaps will continue to talk about "brave russian army" and "Ukrainian war crimes"

[😥]

Very good thread from Euan MacDonald. Going to post it here

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1552898970782932993?s=20&t=njpBug_...

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1552906526804922368?s=20&t=njpBug_...

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1552906756824743936?s=20&t=njpBug_...

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1552906758544408576?s=20&t=njpBug_...

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1552906760356302849?s=20&t=njpBug_...

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1552906761941798912?s=20&t=njpBug_...

[bilaps]

Also, I've never talked about brave Russian army, never talked about supporting genocide and for sure don't support mutilating someones' genitals. If I think that picture of this war isn't only russian dirty orcs vs brave ukrainians and that Russians are only to blame for this war that doesn't equate all things from first sentence. I actually feel pitty for people who are so blindsided and their only way of communication with someone who doesn't have same opinions are insults. When I see someone who likes John Mccain and then talks about genocide, it's actually funny.

[jaichind]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/07/29/hanover-bans-hot-showers-as-russian-gas-crisis-begins-to-bite.html

"Cold showers and more: German city turns off the hot water to survive Putin's gas cuts"

Wow. No more hot water in German city.

[walleye26]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Put Bilaps on ignore.

[Sir Mohamed]

Recent news about Russian warcrimes of the worst kind are breathtaking an absolutely makes you sick and tired. I also kind of feel the Western nations aren't doing enough to supply heavy weapons to Ulraine to punch back against these barbarians.

The likes of jaichind and bilaps should be ashamed of their stances on Russia. This is simply not about different viewpoints; we have a clear right and wrong here.

At least we know from Andriy he seems alright. Take care, friend.

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamMilstein/status/1552649648048840705

[bilaps]

Kherson offensive again gaining momentum on twitter and with UK intelligence of course, probably one of most unrealiable sources in this war.

But, people who really follow this stuff see this

https://twitter.com/MarkUrban01/status/1553010909571858433

[Badger]

Also, I've never talked about brave Russian army, never talked about supporting genocide and for sure don't support mutilating someones' genitals. If I think that picture of this war isn't only russian dirty orcs vs brave ukrainians and that Russians are only to blame for this war that doesn't equate all things from first sentence. I actually feel pitty for people who are so blindsided and their only way of communication with someone who doesn't have same opinions are insults. When I see someone who likes John Mccain and then talks about genocide, it's actually funny.

You apologize and what about ISM and ignore / excuse as fake news every massive amount of verifiable evidence of widespread systematic Russian war crimes, population removal, and atrocities on a grand scale. Stop whining just cuz someone from the front actually called you out on this you coward.

[OSR stands with Israel]

The question is, how do we make Russia a civilised country again?

We don't have the option of defeating it in full scale war as we did Japan and Germany.

When were they one though

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Kherson offensive again gaining momentum on twitter and with UK intelligence of course, probably one of most unrealiable sources in this war.

But, people who really follow this stuff see this

https://twitter.com/MarkUrban01/status/1553010909571858433

It would make sense that Russia would protect its position as Kherson, just as it would make sense for Ukraine to undermine it.
In the long-term, it seems very likely HIMARS continues to give Ukraine good capabilities for pushing the envelope, limiting Russia's options.

[jaichind]

Medvedev posted map signals to Poland that Russia is open to partition of Ukraine

[Virginiá]

MLR systems are great for striking high value enemy targets/logistical stuff and can seriously degrade the Russians' ability to push forward, but Ukraine still needs a lot more armored vehicles/tanks and artillery to actually continue retaking territory. Especially when you consider that the more offensive operations they undertake, the more vehicles they will lose. The pickings are starting to get slim with regards to European countries with operational stocks of Soviet-era tanks who are also willing to send them to Ukraine under some condition(s).

This has actually been an impediment to Ukraine's effort to enlarge its military. Not enough weapons and other equipment to go around.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Medvedev posted map signals to Poland that Russia is open to partition of Ukraine

It's Molotov-Ribbentrop all over again!

(But this time the Poles are apparently supposed to be Soviets.. or something).

[Storr]

These people really are bastards:

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1552929952114286592?s=20&t=z9WAnYzRsI4...

[Person Man]

Very good thread from Euan MacDonald. Going to post it here

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1552898970782932993?s=20&t=njpBug_...

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1552906526804922368?s=20&t=njpBug_...

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1552906756824743936?s=20&t=njpBug_...

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1552906758544408576?s=20&t=njpBug_...

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1552906760356302849?s=20&t=njpBug_...

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1552906761941798912?s=20&t=njpBug_...

There you go. Nazis, dude.

[CapoteMonster]

These people really are bastards:

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1552929952114286592?s=20&t=z9WAnYzRsI4...

Why would they cause an explosion that killed or injured eight of their own prison guards? I'm willing to hear alternate explanations but "Russia must have bombed their own prison" makes little sense when no one at home would mind them openly executing Azov members

[😥]

These people really are bastards:

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1552929952114286592?s=20&t=z9WAnYzRsI4...

Why would they cause an explosion that killed or injured eight of their own prison guards? I'm willing to hear alternate explanations but "Russia must have bombed their own prison" makes little sense when no one at home would mind them openly executing Azov members

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1553004152489402368?t=ExNdrD9bREdWuE4yg0DIfQ...

The situation is roughly like this. In the video, you can clearly hear her saying that no one from the Russian side was hurt. Sorry no English subtitles

[Sir Mohamed]

These people really are bastards:

 https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1552929952114286592?s=20&t=z9WAnYzRsI4z0L5uOK8HLg

Classical false flag. And totally what you would expect from the Russians.

Even if somehow Ukrainian strikes killed them, the Russians almost certainly used them has human shields. So basically what ISIS thugs are doing.

[NOVA Green]

Apparently German Howitzers are already running into maint issues...

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1553016287948947458?s=20&t=klcPfI7p1pkKa4...