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« Reply #1650 on: November 24, 2020, 12:18:12 PM »

And apparently Hart netted 9 votes from Jasper County. Johnson will be the moment of truth.
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« Reply #1651 on: November 24, 2020, 12:19:06 PM »

Per Dave Wasserman, the Hart campaign claims that updated recount totals will show Rita Hart ahead by 3 votes.



This is just so close.

"Obviously it's because they 'found' votes for the Democrat, another election stolen thanks to liberal voter fraud!"

Am I doing this right?

Not enough anti semitic innuendo and theories involving China/Venezuela.
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« Reply #1652 on: November 24, 2020, 12:21:18 PM »

Miller-Meeks Campaign says Recount in Scott County is "Illegal":
https://kwwl.com/2020/11/22/miller-meeks-campaign-calls-scott-county-recount-illegal-in-dist-2-race/
The Campaign says that Scott County used a "Hybrid" Model which isn't allowed under Iowa Election Law. The Iowa Secretary of State's Office specifically said Counties must either use "Iowa's reliable Optical Scanners" or do it by "Hand" but not both which Scott County did.

"Iowa law requires a recount in each precinct to be conducted either by Iowa’s reliable optical-scan ballot tabulating equipment or by a hand count. The Iowa Secretary of State has instructed recount boards to use one or the other, but not to combine the two. Most recount boards have complied with that law, but the Hart campaign has advocated for an illegal “hybrid” model in Democrat-leaning counties. The Scott County recount board, over the Miller-Meeks for Congress campaign’s objection and against the instructions of the Secretary of State, adopted this method."

Conclusion: This will end up in Court as well especially if Hart gets ahead!

They did the machine recount and then checked the ballots that couldn't be scanned?

Seems petty.


Under Iowa State Elections Law they are not allowed to do that. Either you do the entire Race in your County by Machine or by Hand but not both. This Race is going to end up in the Courts and if the Miller-Meeks Attorneys can proof to the Judges that Scott County violated Iowa State Elections Law then the entire Recount of Scott County will be thrown out.
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« Reply #1653 on: November 24, 2020, 12:27:03 PM »

Miller-Meeks Campaign says Recount in Scott County is "Illegal":
https://kwwl.com/2020/11/22/miller-meeks-campaign-calls-scott-county-recount-illegal-in-dist-2-race/
The Campaign says that Scott County used a "Hybrid" Model which isn't allowed under Iowa Election Law. The Iowa Secretary of State's Office specifically said Counties must either use "Iowa's reliable Optical Scanners" or do it by "Hand" but not both which Scott County did.

"Iowa law requires a recount in each precinct to be conducted either by Iowa’s reliable optical-scan ballot tabulating equipment or by a hand count. The Iowa Secretary of State has instructed recount boards to use one or the other, but not to combine the two. Most recount boards have complied with that law, but the Hart campaign has advocated for an illegal “hybrid” model in Democrat-leaning counties. The Scott County recount board, over the Miller-Meeks for Congress campaign’s objection and against the instructions of the Secretary of State, adopted this method."

Conclusion: This will end up in Court as well especially if Hart gets ahead!

They did the machine recount and then checked the ballots that couldn't be scanned?

Seems petty.


Under Iowa State Elections Law they are not allowed to do that. Either you do the entire Race in your County by Machine or by Hand but not both. This Race is going to end up in the Courts and if the Miller-Meeks Attorneys can proof to the Judges that Scott County violated Iowa State Elections Law then the entire Recount of Scott County will be thrown out.

Would the entire recount of the county be thrown out? Or would the county just be reordered to do the recount in a way that's consistent with Iowa State Law? It doesn't really make sense to just throw out results and potentially disenfranchise voters because they used a "hybrid" approach (and with an election this close, throwing out recount results entirely, even in just one county, very well could change the result of the whole election).
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« Reply #1654 on: November 24, 2020, 12:31:18 PM »

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« Reply #1655 on: November 24, 2020, 12:31:48 PM »

With a margin that close, there's a legitimate argument to hold a special

I was wondering the same thing. Perhaps they would do a second recount to see if the same candidate won before getting to that point, though?

There is precedent for this, with the 1974 and 1975 Senate elections in NH. Could something like that occur in Iowa?
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« Reply #1656 on: November 24, 2020, 12:32:48 PM »

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« Reply #1657 on: November 24, 2020, 12:32:57 PM »

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The Dan Quayle Award for Gaffe of the Year goes to Christy Smith for reminding us that while being a military pilot may be impressive to some, it cannot match the true heroism that only comes from owning law books.

To my understanding, after she said that, we got an actual increase in fundraising even though we weren't doing any new events.

As someone who works for Garcia, what do you think he enjoys and dislikes about Congress?
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« Reply #1658 on: November 24, 2020, 12:33:16 PM »

Miller-Meeks Campaign says Recount in Scott County is "Illegal":
https://kwwl.com/2020/11/22/miller-meeks-campaign-calls-scott-county-recount-illegal-in-dist-2-race/
The Campaign says that Scott County used a "Hybrid" Model which isn't allowed under Iowa Election Law. The Iowa Secretary of State's Office specifically said Counties must either use "Iowa's reliable Optical Scanners" or do it by "Hand" but not both which Scott County did.

"Iowa law requires a recount in each precinct to be conducted either by Iowa’s reliable optical-scan ballot tabulating equipment or by a hand count. The Iowa Secretary of State has instructed recount boards to use one or the other, but not to combine the two. Most recount boards have complied with that law, but the Hart campaign has advocated for an illegal “hybrid” model in Democrat-leaning counties. The Scott County recount board, over the Miller-Meeks for Congress campaign’s objection and against the instructions of the Secretary of State, adopted this method."

Conclusion: This will end up in Court as well especially if Hart gets ahead!

They did the machine recount and then checked the ballots that couldn't be scanned?

Seems petty.


Under Iowa State Elections Law they are not allowed to do that. Either you do the entire Race in your County by Machine or by Hand but not both. This Race is going to end up in the Courts and if the Miller-Meeks Attorneys can proof to the Judges that Scott County violated Iowa State Elections Law then the entire Recount of Scott County will be thrown out.

Would the entire recount of the county be thrown out? Or would the county just be reordered to do the recount in a way that's consistent with Iowa State Law? It doesn't really make sense to just throw out results and potentially disenfranchise voters because they used a "hybrid" approach (and with an election this close, throwing out recount results entirely, even in just one county, very well could change the result of the whole election).
You could be right here mate! Under the scenario you give most likely is that only the Machine Recount would be recorded which wouldn't net the Hart Campaign the Votes needed to overcome the Deficit.
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« Reply #1659 on: November 24, 2020, 12:34:53 PM »



Greenfield lost it by 6.6%, and got 45% there
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« Reply #1660 on: November 24, 2020, 12:39:02 PM »

In the event the race ends up as a tie:

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« Reply #1661 on: November 24, 2020, 12:41:22 PM »

That's so stupid. Just hold a redo special
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« Reply #1662 on: November 24, 2020, 12:47:57 PM »

That's so stupid. Just hold a redo special

Eh, drawing a candidate's name out of a hat is - if not 'not stupid,' then at the very least - logistically more effective (not to mention, infinitely cheaper).
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« Reply #1663 on: November 24, 2020, 12:51:28 PM »


Scott County is now missing 12 Votes from the canvassed Count. Jasper County apparently did the same "Hybrid" Recount combining a Machine with a Manual Recount which is illegal under Iowa State Elecions Law.
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« Reply #1664 on: November 24, 2020, 12:51:37 PM »

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The Dan Quayle Award for Gaffe of the Year goes to Christy Smith for reminding us that while being a military pilot may be impressive to some, it cannot match the true heroism that only comes from owning law books.

To my understanding, after she said that, we got an actual increase in fundraising even though we weren't doing any new events.

As someone who works for Garcia, what do you think he enjoys and dislikes about Congress?
This will sound like a canned line, but he really just likes talking to constituents and trying to get them the help they need, he is already burnout on the partisan gamesmanship in the House, and he's tired of the amendments he's tried to enter being prevented from being placed on the docket just because he's a republican. I know he's started to regret his choice of apartment, right below him is AOC. He really wants to do some of the casework for constituents himself, but his chief does a keep job of keeping him meeting donors and connections, because he can't stand doing it.
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« Reply #1665 on: November 24, 2020, 12:55:20 PM »

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The Dan Quayle Award for Gaffe of the Year goes to Christy Smith for reminding us that while being a military pilot may be impressive to some, it cannot match the true heroism that only comes from owning law books.

To my understanding, after she said that, we got an actual increase in fundraising even though we weren't doing any new events.

As someone who works for Garcia, what do you think he enjoys and dislikes about Congress?
This will sound like a canned line, but he really just likes talking to constituents and trying to get them the help they need, he is already burnout on the partisan gamesmanship in the House, and he's tired of the amendments he's tried to enter being prevented from being placed on the docket just because he's a republican. I know he's started to regret his choice of apartment, right below him is AOC. He really wants to do some of the casework for constituents himself, but his chief does a keep job of keeping him meeting donors and connections, because he can't stand doing it.

Is she a bad neighbor?
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« Reply #1666 on: November 24, 2020, 12:58:32 PM »

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The Dan Quayle Award for Gaffe of the Year goes to Christy Smith for reminding us that while being a military pilot may be impressive to some, it cannot match the true heroism that only comes from owning law books.

To my understanding, after she said that, we got an actual increase in fundraising even though we weren't doing any new events.

As someone who works for Garcia, what do you think he enjoys and dislikes about Congress?
This will sound like a canned line, but he really just likes talking to constituents and trying to get them the help they need, he is already burnout on the partisan gamesmanship in the House, and he's tired of the amendments he's tried to enter being prevented from being placed on the docket just because he's a republican. I know he's started to regret his choice of apartment, right below him is AOC. He really wants to do some of the casework for constituents himself, but his chief does a keep job of keeping him meeting donors and connections, because he can't stand doing it.

Is she a bad neighbor?
He said she was loud a few times, but if you saw her stream she was loud there, so he's worried she'll do some streams there. He's had some trouble with the jetlag just because of flying constantly, so he really wants some sleep.
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« Reply #1667 on: November 24, 2020, 01:00:54 PM »

Doesn't CA-25 have the most police officers per capita in a district? I wonder how the events of the summer played out there
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« Reply #1668 on: November 24, 2020, 01:03:41 PM »


Scott County is now missing 12 Votes from the canvassed Count. Jasper County apparently did the same "Hybrid" Recount combining a Machine with a Manual Recount which is illegal under Iowa State Elecions Law.

Why don't you just say what you mean and admit that you wish Iowa law said any election law said that Democrats gaining votes in a recount was illegal? 
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« Reply #1669 on: November 24, 2020, 01:08:58 PM »

Doesn't CA-25 have the most police officers per capita in a district? I wonder how the events of the summer played out there
I don't think most active, but most if you put active and retired. When you enter Simi Valley there's a sign that says "We love our cops!"  There wasn't that much protesting in the district I don't think, though there were protests for other reasons.
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« Reply #1670 on: November 24, 2020, 01:15:09 PM »

The House actually has the Constitutional power pick the winner of IA-02 in January by a majority vote if it's still under dispute.  In practice, though, it's much more likely they would vote to order a special election.

Still can't believe the open seat in IA-02 was closer than Finkenauer's IA-01.

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« Reply #1671 on: November 24, 2020, 01:31:54 PM »


Scott County is now missing 12 Votes from the canvassed Count. Jasper County apparently did the same "Hybrid" Recount combining a Machine with a Manual Recount which is illegal under Iowa State Elecions Law.
Why don't you just say what you mean and admit that you wish Iowa law said any election law said that Democrats gaining votes in a recount was illegal? 
No, I am not that kind of Person. Let's say the entire 24 Counties of Iowas 2nd Congressional District would be doing a Hand Recount (which should have been done anyways given the margin) and Democrat Rita Hart comes out ahead in it I would accept the Results but this wishy-washy combining Machine with Manual Recounts is not good. Gotta abide the Election Law that's in place and not doing your things your own way.

This is why so many people have lost trust in our Election System because every individual County basically in America is doing things their own way.
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« Reply #1672 on: November 24, 2020, 01:33:27 PM »

That's so stupid. Just hold a redo special

No. This is Iowa and there must be a coin flip.
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« Reply #1673 on: November 24, 2020, 01:42:21 PM »

The House actually has the Constitutional power pick the winner of IA-02 in January by a majority vote if it's still under dispute.  In practice, though, it's much more likely they would vote to order a special election.

Still can't believe the open seat in IA-02 was closer than Finkenauer's IA-01.



Same here. I know UTAF is a meme but she seemed strong enough and IA-01 seems less R than IA-02. Is this the remainder of Loebsack's mystical powers? Is Hart that good of a candidate? Do these voters just really enjoy D representation in the House for whatever reason?
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« Reply #1674 on: November 24, 2020, 01:46:10 PM »

The House actually has the Constitutional power pick the winner of IA-02 in January by a majority vote if it's still under dispute.  In practice, though, it's much more likely they would vote to order a special election.

Still can't believe the open seat in IA-02 was closer than Finkenauer's IA-01.



Same here. I know UTAF is a meme but she seemed strong enough and IA-01 seems less R than IA-02. Is this the remainder of Loebsack's mystical powers? Is Hart that good of a candidate? Do these voters just really enjoy D representation in the House for whatever reason?

1) Both IA-01 and IA-02 are Trump +4.
2) Meeks is a perennial candidate.
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