CONGRESSIONAL RESULTS MEGA THREAD

[Horus]

So much for the hot takes that pelosi “lost” this election cycle

I mean, she did. Democrats should have gained ~10 seats. Losing any is definitely an underperformance.

Yeah but that's more Biden's fault for not winning by 8 points than hers-their fate was decided by the top of the ticket.

As the incumbent party in the House, Dems should have run ahead of Biden.  Pelosi should have taken Mnuchin’s 1.8 trillion stimulus offer and gotten Trump to force McConnell to pass it through the Senate.

A stimulus would've resulted in Trump's reelection.

If it helped the country and the Democratic House members, so be it.  It is not Pelosi’s job to worry about the Presidential election.  Protecting her caucus is her first priority.

Because of Pelosi, Democrats lost House seats and there probably won’t be any stimulus.

Fortunately Pelosi realized that a second term Trump would've led to a collapse of free and fair elections and in all likelihood the end of the Democratic party.

She was looking out for her caucus.

I think it's disgusting that we still don't have a stimulus but four more years of Trump would've caused far, far more damage long term.

Do you realize that not getting a stimulus is going to result in many people losing their jobs?  

Democrats will likely lose the House in 2022 under Biden and probably not get it back until the midterm of a Republican President.  Dems won’t get the Senate back this decade.  

Pelosi had two options - sacrifice some people's jobs or sacrifice our democracy.

Not an enviable choice but I'm glad she chose the former.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

So much for the hot takes that pelosi “lost” this election cycle

I mean, she did. Democrats should have gained ~10 seats. Losing any is definitely an underperformance.

Yeah but that's more Biden's fault for not winning by 8 points than hers-their fate was decided by the top of the ticket.

As the incumbent party in the House, Dems should have run ahead of Biden.  Pelosi should have taken Mnuchin’s 1.8 trillion stimulus offer and gotten Trump to force McConnell to pass it through the Senate.

A stimulus would've resulted in Trump's reelection.

If it helped the country and the Democratic House members, so be it.  It is not Pelosi’s job to worry about the Presidential election.  Protecting her caucus is her first priority.

Because of Pelosi, Democrats lost House seats and there probably won’t be any stimulus.

Fortunately Pelosi realized that a second term Trump would've led to a collapse of free and fair elections and in all likelihood the end of the Democratic party.

She was looking out for her caucus.

I think it's disgusting that we still don't have a stimulus but four more years of Trump would've caused far, far more damage long term.

Do you realize that not getting a stimulus is going to result in many people losing their jobs?  

Democrats will likely lose the House in 2022 under Biden and probably not get it back until the midterm of a Republican President.  Dems won’t get the Senate back this decade.  

Pelosi had two options - sacrifice some people's jobs or sacrifice our democracy.

Why is this asserted with such confidence? It is not at all obvious that Trump would become competent enough to turn the US into a dictatorship in his second term if he couldn't do it in his first. This goes doubly given the assumption (in the scenario you're discussing) of a Democratic majority in the House.

[Mr.Phips]

It is not obvious that House Democrats would have received electoral benefits if a stimulus package had passed (they should have tried to do it anyway, but that's because putting good lawmaking over clever politicking is a cornerstone of responsible governance with long-term dividends). That was plausible, but polarisation meant probable gains for Trump could easily have translated into more downballot Republican gains.

Where there was room for electoral benefit was in reaching a compromise with the White House in confidence that it likely would not have passed the Senate. McConnell was already refusing to agree to the White House's terms; he was, by that point, more than prepared to sacrifice Trump's electoral prospects for special interests. If Democrats and Trump had a "bipartisan" front against Republicans on an overwhelmingly popular measure, that is the sort of thing that would probably have helped downballot Democrats with Trump voters (against the swamp/corporatism) without helping the president himself (because he'd have failed to pass a stimulus package).

Yes, this was my thought.  It would have put the spotlight on McConnell and Republicans infighting.

[Mr.Phips]

So much for the hot takes that pelosi “lost” this election cycle

I mean, she did. Democrats should have gained ~10 seats. Losing any is definitely an underperformance.

Yeah but that's more Biden's fault for not winning by 8 points than hers-their fate was decided by the top of the ticket.

As the incumbent party in the House, Dems should have run ahead of Biden.  Pelosi should have taken Mnuchin’s 1.8 trillion stimulus offer and gotten Trump to force McConnell to pass it through the Senate.

A stimulus would've resulted in Trump's reelection.

If it helped the country and the Democratic House members, so be it.  It is not Pelosi’s job to worry about the Presidential election.  Protecting her caucus is her first priority.

Because of Pelosi, Democrats lost House seats and there probably won’t be any stimulus.

Fortunately Pelosi realized that a second term Trump would've led to a collapse of free and fair elections and in all likelihood the end of the Democratic party.

She was looking out for her caucus.

I think it's disgusting that we still don't have a stimulus but four more years of Trump would've caused far, far more damage long term.

Do you realize that not getting a stimulus is going to result in many people losing their jobs?  

Democrats will likely lose the House in 2022 under Biden and probably not get it back until the midterm of a Republican President.  Dems won’t get the Senate back this decade.  

Pelosi had two options - sacrifice some people's jobs or sacrifice our democracy.

Not an enviable choice but I'm glad she chose the former.

So you would be fine poor and jobless just as long as Trump isn’t President?

[Horus]

So much for the hot takes that pelosi “lost” this election cycle

I mean, she did. Democrats should have gained ~10 seats. Losing any is definitely an underperformance.

Yeah but that's more Biden's fault for not winning by 8 points than hers-their fate was decided by the top of the ticket.

As the incumbent party in the House, Dems should have run ahead of Biden.  Pelosi should have taken Mnuchin’s 1.8 trillion stimulus offer and gotten Trump to force McConnell to pass it through the Senate.

A stimulus would've resulted in Trump's reelection.

If it helped the country and the Democratic House members, so be it.  It is not Pelosi’s job to worry about the Presidential election.  Protecting her caucus is her first priority.

Because of Pelosi, Democrats lost House seats and there probably won’t be any stimulus.

Fortunately Pelosi realized that a second term Trump would've led to a collapse of free and fair elections and in all likelihood the end of the Democratic party.

She was looking out for her caucus.

I think it's disgusting that we still don't have a stimulus but four more years of Trump would've caused far, far more damage long term.

Do you realize that not getting a stimulus is going to result in many people losing their jobs?  

Democrats will likely lose the House in 2022 under Biden and probably not get it back until the midterm of a Republican President.  Dems won’t get the Senate back this decade.  

Pelosi had two options - sacrifice some people's jobs or sacrifice our democracy.

Not an enviable choice but I'm glad she chose the former.

So you would be fine poor and jobless just as long as Trump isn’t President?

Since a second Trump term would've resulted in far more poor and jobless, yes.

[Mr.Phips]

So much for the hot takes that pelosi “lost” this election cycle

I mean, she did. Democrats should have gained ~10 seats. Losing any is definitely an underperformance.

Yeah but that's more Biden's fault for not winning by 8 points than hers-their fate was decided by the top of the ticket.

As the incumbent party in the House, Dems should have run ahead of Biden.  Pelosi should have taken Mnuchin’s 1.8 trillion stimulus offer and gotten Trump to force McConnell to pass it through the Senate.

A stimulus would've resulted in Trump's reelection.

If it helped the country and the Democratic House members, so be it.  It is not Pelosi’s job to worry about the Presidential election.  Protecting her caucus is her first priority.

Because of Pelosi, Democrats lost House seats and there probably won’t be any stimulus.

Fortunately Pelosi realized that a second term Trump would've led to a collapse of free and fair elections and in all likelihood the end of the Democratic party.

She was looking out for her caucus.

I think it's disgusting that we still don't have a stimulus but four more years of Trump would've caused far, far more damage long term.

Do you realize that not getting a stimulus is going to result in many people losing their jobs?  

Democrats will likely lose the House in 2022 under Biden and probably not get it back until the midterm of a Republican President.  Dems won’t get the Senate back this decade.  

Pelosi had two options - sacrifice some people's jobs or sacrifice our democracy.

Not an enviable choice but I'm glad she chose the former.

So you would be fine poor and jobless just as long as Trump isn’t President?

Since a second Trump term would've resulted in far more poor and jobless, yes.

How will Biden be able to do any better with a Republican Senate?

Democrats like Abigail Spanberger, Elise Slotkin, and Anthony Brindisi should vote against Pelosi for speaker after what she did to cost Dems seats.

[Horus]

So much for the hot takes that pelosi “lost” this election cycle

I mean, she did. Democrats should have gained ~10 seats. Losing any is definitely an underperformance.

Yeah but that's more Biden's fault for not winning by 8 points than hers-their fate was decided by the top of the ticket.

As the incumbent party in the House, Dems should have run ahead of Biden.  Pelosi should have taken Mnuchin’s 1.8 trillion stimulus offer and gotten Trump to force McConnell to pass it through the Senate.

A stimulus would've resulted in Trump's reelection.

If it helped the country and the Democratic House members, so be it.  It is not Pelosi’s job to worry about the Presidential election.  Protecting her caucus is her first priority.

Because of Pelosi, Democrats lost House seats and there probably won’t be any stimulus.

Fortunately Pelosi realized that a second term Trump would've led to a collapse of free and fair elections and in all likelihood the end of the Democratic party.

She was looking out for her caucus.

I think it's disgusting that we still don't have a stimulus but four more years of Trump would've caused far, far more damage long term.

Do you realize that not getting a stimulus is going to result in many people losing their jobs?  

Democrats will likely lose the House in 2022 under Biden and probably not get it back until the midterm of a Republican President.  Dems won’t get the Senate back this decade.  

Pelosi had two options - sacrifice some people's jobs or sacrifice our democracy.

Not an enviable choice but I'm glad she chose the former.

So you would be fine poor and jobless just as long as Trump isn’t President?

Since a second Trump term would've resulted in far more poor and jobless, yes.

How will Biden be able to do any better with a Republican Senate?

Democrats like Abigail Spanberger, Elise Slotkin, and Anthony Brindisi should vote against Pelosi for speaker after what she did to cost Dems seats.

Pelosi needs to go asap, I completely agree. So does Hoyer. Fresh blood is needed.

[2016]

I hope McConnell really plays Hardball with Biden especially when we have a Socialist as Vice President!

[2016]

Interesting...
It appears Cox doesn't holding out much hope of a Recount in CA-21
https://twitter.com/rpyers/status/1331703449755340802

[Matty]

Hart campaign was wrong about jasper county

She only netted one vote, not 9

[Pericles]

So much for the hot takes that pelosi “lost” this election cycle

I mean, she did. Democrats should have gained ~10 seats. Losing any is definitely an underperformance.

Yeah but that's more Biden's fault for not winning by 8 points than hers-their fate was decided by the top of the ticket.

As the incumbent party in the House, Dems should have run ahead of Biden.  Pelosi should have taken Mnuchin’s 1.8 trillion stimulus offer and gotten Trump to force McConnell to pass it through the Senate.

Most Republicans are stronger candidates than Trump so it's natural for them to outrun him, the check stuff is a myth.

[ChiefFireWaterMike]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1331690151349784580

God Damn it

you already got a win in ca 25, go home and be happy with mexico mike

I can still want other seats, you can be happy with the presidency alone using that logic. And what?

I just meant since you worked for him and are native kin to him

Just sounds kinda racist only qualifying by him race

[Mr.Phips]

So much for the hot takes that pelosi “lost” this election cycle

I mean, she did. Democrats should have gained ~10 seats. Losing any is definitely an underperformance.

Yeah but that's more Biden's fault for not winning by 8 points than hers-their fate was decided by the top of the ticket.

As the incumbent party in the House, Dems should have run ahead of Biden.  Pelosi should have taken Mnuchin’s 1.8 trillion stimulus offer and gotten Trump to force McConnell to pass it through the Senate.

Most Republicans are stronger candidates than Trump so it's natural for them to outrun him, the check stuff is a myth.

Still Dems had the advantages of incumbency.

[Calthrina950]

As far as i can tell, batsh*t crazy Kathy Barnette in PA-04 has not conceded yet to Madeleine Dean. She lost by nearly 20%.

She hasn't tweeted since 11/11, and before that it was... insane

https://twitter.com/Kathy4Truth

I don't want to sound offensive but I seem to notice that black republicans tend to be more nutjoby/crazy than other republicans. Anyone else notice that?

Some are. But you also have people like Will Hurd, Tim Scott and Michael Steele who are decidedly not crazy.

There seems to be a combination of craziness and sanity among black Republicans. For example, the chair of the local Republican Party where I live (El Paso County), is a black woman named Vickie Tonkins. Tonkins has gotten herself in trouble with the Party, and received criticism within the media, for suggesting that the coronavirus pandemic is a hoax. She was urged to resign from her post, but did not. Tonkins also ran for the El Paso County Board of Commissioners in 2018, but lost the Republican primary to a white woman.

And of course, El Paso County is the home of Darryl Glenn, the former El Paso County Commissioner who lost to Michael Bennet in 2016, and who unsuccessfully primaried Doug Lamborn in 2018. Glenn branded himself as a "proud constitutional conservative" during his campaign, and has generally tried to avoid association with the local black community.

[2016]

Former Rep. David Valadao officially going back to Congress!

https://twitter.com/rpyers/status/1331784436908576770

A 1.677 Vote lead is truly impossible to overcome when Kern County has only 4K left to tabulate!

[SenatorCouzens]

Honestly the house was probably going to flip regardless. Just hope Perdue and Loeffler lose so we can get redistricting reform

The Senate would have to first abolish the filibuster and then pass your legislation on the narrowest of margins in both the Senate and House.

And the Supreme Court could very easily deem the legislation unconstitutional.

I mean the Supreme Court may or may not strike it down, but that's better odds than not winning the senate and having no chance of it even passing through congress.. I'm just trying to stay positive

Fair enough. Everyone -- left, right, and center -- should try to stay positive about the future of the republic. ;-)

[Devils30]

I think Dems would take NY-22 over IA-2 just because it's much easier to shore up for 2022.

[Matty]

I think dems will win back at least 2 of the CA seats in 2022

[Coastal Elitist]

Kings also updated and is basically done

https://twitter.com/rpyers/status/1331812944439435266

[Roll Roons]

I think it's time the AP can safely call this race now. Same with all of the other outstanding ones, aside from IA-02, NY-22 and maybe CA-25.

I'd also be very curious about the presidential numbers in CA-21. It's rural and heavily Hispanic, so it seems like the kind of place that swung to Trump.

[Coastal Elitist]

Valadao declares victory

https://twitter.com/dgvaladao/status/1331824631439736832

[Benjamin Frank]

As far as i can tell, batsh*t crazy Kathy Barnette in PA-04 has not conceded yet to Madeleine Dean. She lost by nearly 20%.

She hasn't tweeted since 11/11, and before that it was... insane

https://twitter.com/Kathy4Truth

I don't want to sound offensive but I seem to notice that black republicans tend to be more nutjoby/crazy than other republicans. Anyone else notice that?

Some are. But you also have people like Will Hurd, Tim Scott and Michael Steele who are decidedly not crazy.

There seems to be a combination of craziness and sanity among black Republicans. For example, the chair of the local Republican Party where I live (El Paso County), is a black woman named Vickie Tonkins. Tonkins has gotten herself in trouble with the Party, and received criticism within the media, for suggesting that the coronavirus pandemic is a hoax. She was urged to resign from her post, but did not. Tonkins also ran for the El Paso County Board of Commissioners in 2018, but lost the Republican primary to a white woman.

And of course, El Paso County is the home of Darryl Glenn, the former El Paso County Commissioner who lost to Michael Bennet in 2016, and who unsuccessfully primaried Doug Lamborn in 2018. Glenn branded himself as a "proud constitutional conservative" during his campaign, and has generally tried to avoid association with the local black community.

Mark Robinson, the new Republican Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina, is another of the black extremist loons.

This is one comment from Mark Robinson, who the Republicans in North Carolina just elected as Lieutenant Governor.

In one post from early 2018, Robinson chastised Black people for celebrating the “Black Panther” movie, saying they “refuse to acknowledge the pure sorry state of their current condition” and instead “get so excited about a fictional ‘hero’ created by an agnostic Jew and put to film by a satanic Marxist.”

The post goes on to say the movie is "trash that was only created to pull the shekels” out of Black people’s pockets, but the post uses a Yiddish slur for Black people.

It is interesting all those at AIPAC who railed against the supposedly antisemitic Scott Wallace in Pennsylvania and the women in New Mexico and Virginia, but who seem to have been completely silent with this out-right hate filled bigot.

I suggest Democrats here who take AIPAC seriously will now understand that AIPAC is nothing but a hack, partisan Republican organization.

As to Mark Robinson, I'm not sure if he's related to another extremist black Republican, Vernon Robinson.  Vernon Robinson, a former Winston-Salem city councilor, ran for the Republican nomination against Virginia Foxx using the slogan "Jesse Helms is back and this time...he's black!"

[Torie]

Regarding NY-22, as a lawyer who went to law school with Thomas Jefferson, it seems as if it will prove impossible to know which objected to ballots were counted and which were not, and indeed, which ballots had objections affixed to them that were then “cleansed,” be it “advertently” or inadvertently. Since obviously all of these unknowns due to the myriad illegalities have a more than remote chance of affecting the result, do you get the drift here? Yes, of course you do. You guys may take politics way too seriously, but you are not stupid. The election for the seat will need to be rerun in a special election. This court will retain jurisdiction to micromanage the election. The BOE’s obviously have systemic issues and need a new Captain. You are looking at him. It is so ordered. The gavel is then slammed down.

If you live up there in the snow belt (relatively speaking, the Hudson Valley is the banana belt which is why we now have a new town named Palm Tree), make sure when you enjoy your holiday repast today that you are not engaging in cannibalism. There are a lot of turkeys roosting in the local BOE’s!

https://wbng.com/2020/11/25/theres-no-sticky-notes-heres-whats-delaying-final-ny-22-results-as-brindisi-takes-13-vote-lead-in-congressional-race/#.X77a4fevnVM.twitter

[VAR]

https://twitter.com/HonkerTheSkunk/status/1332064221123670016

[2016]

IA-2
Jasper County summitted their Recount Totals to the Iowa Secretary of State's Office trimming Miller-Meeks lead over Hart by 1 Vote to 34 Votes.

https://electionresults.iowa.gov/IA/106279/web.264614/#/summary

Only Scott & Clinton County are left to summit their certified Recount Totals to the State. Assuming Scott Hart + 26 will stand Miller-Meeks leads by 8 Votes.

Hart picked up 1 Vote in the Clinton County Recount Totals thus far. She needs 7 more to tie Miller-Meeks or 8 to take the lead.

The Iowa State Board of Canvassers are dominated by Republicans and so is the Iowa State Supreme Court (6-1 Republican Majority). Unless Hart has some really good Attorneys I don't see how she wins this through litigation. Scott County Recount maybe thrown out entirely because of the "Hybrid" Version they did so the original Canvassed Court of November 11 might be certified hre.