2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1324434835105030151

Fox tripling down on Arizona

[American2020]

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1324434835105030151

Fox tripling down on Arizona

Good for them.

[Splash]

Trump now only ahead by 108.7K votes with small update from Bucks County, Was 114K.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

DNC chair does seem to be the best place for Abrams. She'd really be in her element, doing that job.

Is Perez' term up?

[ultraviolet]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1324434835105030151

Fox tripling down on Arizona

Will they still be hesitant to call NV?

[Bojack Horseman]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1324434835105030151

Fox tripling down on Arizona

I feel like we’re in the Twilight Zone.

[Inmate Trump]

Does anyone remember the 2000 election?

I was too young to really care at the time.  I know there are stark and obvious differences between then and now, but was the anxiety about the same or more intense?

[Omega21]

Georgia margin down to 12,825.

Is anyone here familiar with the counting procedures?

How the hell can it take so long to count like 50,000 votes...

Almost embarrassing at this point

[Dr. Arch]

Have we heard anything from Philly or GA?

[ProgressiveModerate]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1324434835105030151

Fox tripling down on Arizona

Good for them.

Wonder what the precint results must say? There must still be some out from Phoenix proper or smtg

[Badger]

I am now fully convinced that the Dems need to completely divorce themselves from the woke academic language and distance themselves from activists that push it. I felt this way earlier but was reluctant to say it. It doesn't help us politically with the average minority voter who do not experience race in those terms nor with the moderate/conservative white voters. It seems to exist solely for elite spaces for white liberals and elite minorities.

One good thing about both Biden and Sanders was that they stayed away from that stuff although some others in the primaries like Gillibrand and Castro dabbled in it. We need to make sure that the same happens going forward as well. Anyone who use the term "intersectionality" or "latinx" should not be nominated for the Democrats up or down the ballot.

Biden did not lose Florida because of woke language
He lost because Trump had conviced a lot of Cuban and Venezuelan Americans that he was communist who supported socialist

you can pick the most anti woke Dem of all time and it wont matter in the2000if they are still successfully branded as socialist or communist in places like Florida

remember if you can convince voters that Joe biden of all people is a socialist
than you can do that to any Dem no matter how anti woke they are....

But given that Republicans literally always seek to paint the Democratic nominee as a Castro friendly socialist coddler, right back through Hillary, Obama, Kerry, Gore, Etc. Why on Earth did it work so very well this time? Especially against a candidate like Biden who would be about as difficult to Tar as a wild-eyed radical as a candidate can be?

My own extremely uninformed hypothesis is a combination of the growing Venezuelan vote. Their having personally dealt with Chavez and Maduro only within the last decade I'm guessing would make them far more susceptible to Republicans waving the red flag. Additionally, although I was very much under the impression that most Cuban Americans outside the true Old Guard supported Obama's attempts to reopen contact with the island through easing travel restrictions, Etc. I guess not, and they actually like Trump's reversal of such policies which made it harder to send money to and visit relatives on the island?

[brucejoel99]

DNC chair does seem to be the best place for Abrams. She'd really be in her element, doing that job.

Is Perez' term up?

In February, yeah, & IIRC, he indicated he's done after this term. When in the White House, an incumbent President usually just names who they want & the DNC/RNC rubber-stamp it.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

DNC chair does seem to be the best place for Abrams. She'd really be in her element, doing that job.

Is Perez' term up?

I'm not entirely sure how it works. I think the president, if a Democrat, appoints the DNC chief, so it's Biden's call anyway.

[Figueira]

Are there any popular Hispanic male politicians from Pennsylvania who are fluent in both English and Spanish in the state legislature or the congress? If the results of this election are anything to go by, someone who fits that profile would immediately rocket to the top of the 2024 contenders for the Democratic nomination.

I feel like this isn’t the best way to choose a nominee

However, this oddly specific request has piqued my interest, I’m gonna look now

Jay Costa from SD-43 is hispanic and male, not sure if he’s popular or speaks Spanish though. Either way, no state legislator is winning the nomination

I found this guy: https://www.pahouse.com/Burgos/About/Biography

It doesn't explicitly say that he speaks Spanish, but he's "first-generation" so he probably does. Also apparently he's only like 40 so he has that going for him.

There's also Angel Cruz: https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/member_information/house_bio.cfm?id=304

No idea if he speaks Spanish.

Either way, a state legislator from Philly is not winning the presidential nomination. They would need to become Governor or Senator or maaaybe US Rep first.

[MillennialModerate]

Georgia margin down to 12,825.

These guys are slow at counting

They’re delaying the invevitable but if you just listened to me it wouldn’t be so difficult.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1324434835105030151

Fox tripling down on Arizona

Good for them.

Wonder what the precint results must say? There must still be some out from Phoenix proper or smtg

I can only imagine that they have data from places like AZ-08 and AZ-06 that show the President doing too poorly for him to win more votes statewide.

[American2020]

[Bojack Horseman]

Georgia margin down to 12,825.

These guys are slow at counting

They’re delaying the invevitable but if you just listened to me it wouldn’t be so difficult.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand you have been denied parole from my ignore list.

[HisGrace]

Does anyone remember the 2000 election?

I was too young to really care at the time.  I know there are stark and obvious differences between then and now, but was the anxiety about the same or more intense?

2000 was not anywhere as intense in the build up but the post-election angling was 1000% more intense than right now, largely because the outcome was much more in doubt and there were also "election integrity" issues with the butterfly ballot debacle.

[Dumbo]

Sen. Bob Casey: No future Republican candidate (president, governor) will ever be as effective in PA as Donald Trump

[It’s so Joever]

Georgia margin down to 12,825.

These guys are slow at counting

They’re delaying the invevitable but if you just listened to me it wouldn’t be so difficult.

Maybe, but the fact it’s even this close is a welcome sign.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I am now fully convinced that the Dems need to completely divorce themselves from the woke academic language and distance themselves from activists that push it. I felt this way earlier but was reluctant to say it. It doesn't help us politically with the average minority voter who do not experience race in those terms nor with the moderate/conservative white voters. It seems to exist solely for elite spaces for white liberals and elite minorities.

One good thing about both Biden and Sanders was that they stayed away from that stuff although some others in the primaries like Gillibrand and Castro dabbled in it. We need to make sure that the same happens going forward as well. Anyone who use the term "intersectionality" or "latinx" should not be nominated for the Democrats up or down the ballot.

Biden did not lose Florida because of woke language
He lost because Trump had conviced a lot of Cuban and Venezuelan Americans that he was communist who supported socialist

you can pick the most anti woke Dem of all time and it wont matter in the end if they are still successfully branded as socialist or communist in places like Florida

remember if you can convince voters that Joe biden of all people is a socialist
than you can do that to any Dem no matter how anti woke they are....

But given that Republicans literally always seek to paint the Democratic nominee as a Castro friendly socialist toddler, right back through Hillary, Obama, Carrie, Gore, Etc. Why on Earth did it work so very well this time? Especially against a candidate like Biden who would be about as difficult to Tar as a wild-eyed radical as a candidate can be?

Myona extremely uninformed hypothesis is a combination of the growing Venezuelan vote. Their having personally dealt with Chavez and Maduro only within the last decade I'm guessing would make them far more susceptible to Republicans waving the red flag. Additionally, although I was very much under the impression that most Cuban Americans outside the true Old Guard supported Obama's attempts to reopen contact with the island through easing travel restrictions, Etc. I guess not, and they actually like Trump's reversal of such policies which made it harder to send money to and visit relatives on the island?

It might have been partially a name recognition thing, combined with a very good outreach operation in Spanish language media that Dems just had no hope of ever beating.
Trump, for better or worse, had a clear name recognition advantage, and this would be magnified in a relatively insular community like the Cubanos.

[Ljube]

Does anyone remember the 2000 election?

I was too young to really care at the time.  I know there are stark and obvious differences between then and now, but was the anxiety about the same or more intense?

I remember the 2000 election. The networks, including CNN which I watched, called Florida for Gore. I was a Gore supporter then and I celebrated. But about 40 minutes later they withdrew the call.

It was more intense.

[brucejoel99]

Georgia margin down to 12,825.

These guys are slow at counting

They’re delaying the invevitable but if you just listened to me it wouldn’t be so difficult.

You mean like how you listened to literally all of Atlas when we gave you receipts over & over & over again as to how JKIII pales in comparison to (King) Markey? Or how you've been listening to us right now as to how, y'know, simple math re: GA ballots & the composition thereof works?

K.