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It's Perro Sanxe wot won it
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« Reply #10525 on: November 05, 2020, 01:55:37 PM »


Oof, this hurts

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose would win many many new voters, OK?“
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« Reply #10526 on: November 05, 2020, 01:55:42 PM »

Any idea on where joes national popular vote margin will end up (in points)

Probably something like 52-47.

Yikes polling ....

Safe to say if it was +10 like polling showed he would’ve carried Texas, FLA & NC
Should have trusted RV numbers, they (and Ipsos) have Biden +5 or so.

The likely voter screens were helping Dems for the first time I can remember and didn’t know how to process that. Lesson relearned.
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« Reply #10527 on: November 05, 2020, 01:56:10 PM »

So it appears Trump beat the polls because he was able to turn out more white, non-college voters. Do we think this is sustainable and will these voters turn out for a Senate run off on Jan 5th?

Who knows but I doubt it. Trump stoked crazy turnout on both sides. But Dems will be less energized to turnout as well.
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« Reply #10528 on: November 05, 2020, 01:56:55 PM »

So once again WI has voted to the right of MI and likely PA once all the votes have been counted.
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« Reply #10529 on: November 05, 2020, 01:57:14 PM »

Any idea on where joes national popular vote margin will end up (in points)

Probably something like 52-47.

Yikes polling ....

Safe to say if it was +10 like polling showed he would’ve carried Texas, FLA & NC
Should have trusted RV numbers, they (and Ipsos) have Biden +5 or so.

The likely voter screens were helping Dems for the first time I can remember and didn’t know how to process that. Lesson relearned.

Yes, that makes a lot of sense. The turnout modelling was wrong.
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« Reply #10530 on: November 05, 2020, 01:57:27 PM »

Any idea on where joes national popular vote margin will end up (in points)

Probably something like 52-47.

Yikes polling ....

Safe to say if it was +10 like polling showed he would’ve carried Texas, FLA & NC
Should have trusted RV numbers, they (and Ipsos) have Biden +5 or so.

The likely voter screens were helping Dems for the first time I can remember and didn’t know how to process that. Lesson relearned.

It's funny too bc the PA polling was way lower than MI/WI, but it's quite possible the +4.8 or average or whatever won't be incredibly off from the final total in PA.
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« Reply #10531 on: November 05, 2020, 01:58:00 PM »

Wait, did that 12k from Fulton ever get counted???
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« Reply #10532 on: November 05, 2020, 01:58:16 PM »


Oof, this hurts

I think this explains allot of the polling error, Biden did do overwhelmingly better than Clinton, but it was cut down by masses of infrequent voters showing up for Trump.
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« Reply #10533 on: November 05, 2020, 01:58:22 PM »

Any idea on where joes national popular vote margin will end up (in points)

Probably something like 52-47.

Yikes polling ....

Safe to say if it was +10 like polling showed he would’ve carried Texas, FLA & NC
Should have trusted RV numbers, they (and Ipsos) have Biden +5 or so.

The likely voter screens were helping Dems for the first time I can remember and didn’t know how to process that. Lesson relearned.

It's funny too bc the PA polling was way lower than MI/WI, but it's quite possible the +4.8 or average or whatever won't be incredibly off from the final total in PA.

If PA ends up in line with the PV this time, Clinton really was a bad candidate.
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« Reply #10534 on: November 05, 2020, 01:58:32 PM »

Kind of feels like Biden is the clear favorite in Georgia now but the final margin will be tiny (a couple thousand).

What are the chances that the overseas military ballots turn the small margin around again, so that Trump wins it ?
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« Reply #10535 on: November 05, 2020, 01:58:37 PM »

Any idea on where joes national popular vote margin will end up (in points)

Probably something like 52-47.

Yikes polling ....

Safe to say if it was +10 like polling showed he would’ve carried Texas, FLA & NC
Should have trusted RV numbers, they (and Ipsos) have Biden +5 or so.

The likely voter screens were helping Dems for the first time I can remember and didn’t know how to process that. Lesson relearned.

It's funny too bc the PA polling was way lower than MI/WI, but it's quite possible the +4.8 or average or whatever won't be incredibly off from the final total in PA.

I think Biden will win quite comfortably but probably by a little over 1% not 5.  Maybe if you count the late arriving ballots that are in dispute it will get closer though.
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« Reply #10536 on: November 05, 2020, 01:58:40 PM »

I'm not predicting whether Ossoff will/will not win the runoff, but I do like the story arc that would be complete if he wins a runoff after the initial election ended with the winner just barely under 50%. Exact opposite of his race in in 2017 lol
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« Reply #10537 on: November 05, 2020, 01:59:18 PM »


Where do you see this?
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« Reply #10538 on: November 05, 2020, 01:59:32 PM »

Kind of feels like Biden is the clear favorite in Georgia now but the final margin will be tiny (a couple thousand).

What are the chances that the overseas military ballots turn the small margin around again, so that Trump wins it ?

Good point.  Not sure how many there would be though.  And there's evidence that Trump is underperforming with military voters compared to most Republicans.  
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It's Perro Sanxe wot won it
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« Reply #10539 on: November 05, 2020, 01:59:42 PM »

Any idea on where joes national popular vote margin will end up (in points)

Probably something like 52-47.

Yikes polling ....

Safe to say if it was +10 like polling showed he would’ve carried Texas, FLA & NC
Should have trusted RV numbers, they (and Ipsos) have Biden +5 or so.

The likely voter screens were helping Dems for the first time I can remember and didn’t know how to process that. Lesson relearned.

Likely voter screens probably benefited Dems because people who voted early (disproportionately Dems) were automatically put in them.
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« Reply #10540 on: November 05, 2020, 02:00:08 PM »

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« Reply #10541 on: November 05, 2020, 02:00:11 PM »



Oof, this hurts

It doesn't actually seem like Texas appreciably trended blue this year.  He lost the state by 6 but  it appears he won the national PV by 4-5, so still 10-11 points right of the nation.
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« Reply #10542 on: November 05, 2020, 02:00:17 PM »

Kind of feels like Biden is the clear favorite in Georgia now but the final margin will be tiny (a couple thousand).

What are the chances that the overseas military ballots turn the small margin around again, so that Trump wins it ?

Just accept that you lost your bet.
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« Reply #10543 on: November 05, 2020, 02:00:21 PM »

While I do want Biden to win the popular vote with as big as margin as possible, it is very discouraging going forward if he actually ends up winning the NPV by 5 points in SUCH a tight election where numerous states are super close. The NPV-EC discrepancy is getting unsustainably large. Are we really at a point where democrats have to get 5%-points more votes than republicans to win elections?
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« Reply #10544 on: November 05, 2020, 02:00:37 PM »

Kind of feels like Biden is the clear favorite in Georgia now but the final margin will be tiny (a couple thousand).

What are the chances that the overseas military ballots turn the small margin around again, so that Trump wins it ?
Why are you insistent on Trump winning?

Btw Military ballots will hardly save save anyone down couple of thousands of votes
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« Reply #10545 on: November 05, 2020, 02:00:43 PM »



Good to know! Thanks!!!
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« Reply #10546 on: November 05, 2020, 02:01:18 PM »

So once again WI has voted to the right of MI and likely PA once all the votes have been counted.

I guess the conventional wisdom about that was right all along.
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« Reply #10547 on: November 05, 2020, 02:01:46 PM »


"please have all facts and evidence"
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« Reply #10548 on: November 05, 2020, 02:03:09 PM »


"please have all facts and evidence"

Who needs facts when your last name is Trump?
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« Reply #10549 on: November 05, 2020, 02:03:19 PM »

So once again WI has voted to the right of MI and likely PA once all the votes have been counted.

I guess the conventional wisdom about that was right all along.
People seem to forget all the times conventional wisdom is right, remember the times it's wrong, and extrapolate that to mean "conventional wisdom is often wrong" - which is a bad statement to make if you are talking in terms of probabilities.
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