PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[AncestralDemocrat.]

https://twitter.com/AdImpact_Pol/status/1524099235263700993?t=QNrvxYhwsNtsPuZSYJ...
Club is such a clownshow with no ideological consistency.. supporting Mandel, Barnette and Masters.. what's the correlation.

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

https://twitter.com/AdImpact_Pol/status/1524099235263700993?t=QNrvxYhwsNtsPuZSYJ...
Club is such a clownshow with no ideological consistency.. supporting Mandel, Barnette and Masters.. what's the correlation.

Reality deniers.

[Senator Incitatus]

Laughing at the Owens tweet saying that Philly voters think Lamb is "better in Congress." Nice reminder for this forum that the average voter has no idea what's going on.

[KaiserDave]

https://twitter.com/AdImpact_Pol/status/1524099235263700993?t=QNrvxYhwsNtsPuZSYJ...
Club is such a clownshow with no ideological consistency.. supporting Mandel, Barnette and Masters.. what's the correlation.

All reactionary corporate stooges of various stripes. Makes sense to me.

[ProgressiveModerate]

I'm confused as to those who say Barnette would be a particularly strong candidate for Rs. She def would've been before she went all in crazy nutjob in the primary. She may still be favored just by the nature of the year and turnout differences, but she is very isolating to any who isn't in the Trump cult and it'd be hard for her to go back and moderate at this point, she's already done a lot of damage.

Like in the R debate she was def the most "derailed" of the bunch, not being shy about her idea that the 2020 election including her own (which she lost by 20) were stolen and basically says everything a Trump loyalist wants to hear, and repeatedly attacked the others for not being 100% in on absolutely crazy stuff.

Ig she's black and such, but just by being black doesn't really much for expanding the GOP's coalition unless she seriously makes an effort to reach out to the black community. Same way that John James really didn't do much differently than Trump in heavily black Detroit, no even slightly better.

[GALeftist]

I mean I think GALeftist knows that Turner is deranged grifter and Fetterman isn't.

This is admittedly another key difference.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

I'm confused as to those who say Barnette would be a particularly strong candidate for Rs. She def would've been before she went all in crazy nutjob in the primary. She may still be favored just by the nature of the year and turnout differences, but she is very isolating to any who isn't in the Trump cult and it'd be hard for her to go back and moderate at this point, she's already done a lot of damage.

Like in the R debate she was def the most "derailed" of the bunch, not being shy about her idea that the 2020 election including her own (which she lost by 20) were stolen and basically says everything a Trump loyalist wants to hear, and repeatedly attacked the others for not being 100% in on absolutely crazy stuff.

Ig she's black and such, but just by being black doesn't really much for expanding the GOP's coalition unless she seriously makes an effort to reach out to the black community. Same way that John James really didn't do much differently than Trump in heavily black Detroit, no even slightly better.

‘If we get our own black person, they’ll all vote for us’ is the beginning and end of GOP thoughts on outreach.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

I'm confused as to those who say Barnette would be a particularly strong candidate for Rs. She def would've been before she went all in crazy nutjob in the primary. She may still be favored just by the nature of the year and turnout differences, but she is very isolating to any who isn't in the Trump cult and it'd be hard for her to go back and moderate at this point, she's already done a lot of damage.

Like in the R debate she was def the most "derailed" of the bunch, not being shy about her idea that the 2020 election including her own (which she lost by 20) were stolen and basically says everything a Trump loyalist wants to hear, and repeatedly attacked the others for not being 100% in on absolutely crazy stuff.

Ig she's black and such, but just by being black doesn't really much for expanding the GOP's coalition unless she seriously makes an effort to reach out to the black community. Same way that John James really didn't do much differently than Trump in heavily black Detroit, no even slightly better.

‘If we get our own black person, they’ll all vote for us’ is the beginning and end of GOP thoughts on outreach.

Same thing the dems do with Fetterman. "If we get a big white guy, then all the Obama-Trump voters will vote for us!".

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Laughing at the Owens tweet saying that Philly voters think Lamb is "better in Congress." Nice reminder for this forum that the average voter has no idea what's going on.

Was having dinner with a friend and his parents (former-Reagan-Republicans-turned-Obama-Democrats), both Ivy League educated engineers.  

When a campaign ad appeared on TV for Josh Shapiro, this friend's mother turned to me and asked, "there's elections this year, right? What party is this guy?"

Ahhhh the American electorate.  

[wbrocks67]

Laughing at the Owens tweet saying that Philly voters think Lamb is "better in Congress." Nice reminder for this forum that the average voter has no idea what's going on.

Was having dinner with a friend and his parents (former-Reagan-Republicans-turned-Obama-Democrats), both Ivy League educated engineers.  

When a campaign ad appeared on TV for Josh Shapiro, this friend's mother turned to me and asked, "there's elections this year, right? What party is this guy?"

Ahhhh the American electorate.  

are they from pennsylvania? you'd think if they were from/in PA, they'd at least knew *who* Shapiro was at this point, but alas...

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Laughing at the Owens tweet saying that Philly voters think Lamb is "better in Congress." Nice reminder for this forum that the average voter has no idea what's going on.

Was having dinner with a friend and his parents (former-Reagan-Republicans-turned-Obama-Democrats), both Ivy League educated engineers.  

When a campaign ad appeared on TV for Josh Shapiro, this friend's mother turned to me and asked, "there's elections this year, right? What party is this guy?"

Ahhhh the American electorate.  

are they from pennsylvania? you'd think if they were from/in PA, they'd at least knew *who* Shapiro was at this point, but alas...

Both have lived in PA for about...I wanna say thirty years or so.

[wbrocks67]

I'm confused as to those who say Barnette would be a particularly strong candidate for Rs. She def would've been before she went all in crazy nutjob in the primary. She may still be favored just by the nature of the year and turnout differences, but she is very isolating to any who isn't in the Trump cult and it'd be hard for her to go back and moderate at this point, she's already done a lot of damage.

Like in the R debate she was def the most "derailed" of the bunch, not being shy about her idea that the 2020 election including her own (which she lost by 20) were stolen and basically says everything a Trump loyalist wants to hear, and repeatedly attacked the others for not being 100% in on absolutely crazy stuff.

Ig she's black and such, but just by being black doesn't really much for expanding the GOP's coalition unless she seriously makes an effort to reach out to the black community. Same way that John James really didn't do much differently than Trump in heavily black Detroit, no even slightly better.

‘If we get our own black person, they’ll all vote for us’ is the beginning and end of GOP thoughts on outreach.

Same thing the dems do with Fetterman. "If we get a big white guy, then all the Obama-Trump voters will vote for us!".

Not really the same thing. Fetterman's shctick is more about being relatable in general.

[wbrocks67]

More than 343,000 voters had returned their mail ballots, according to the data provided by the Pennsylvania Department of State, which oversees elections. Of those, 268,000 returned ballots came from Democrats and 74,000 came from Republicans.

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/live/pennsylvania-primary-2022-election-candidates-polls-20220510.html#card-1124223359

[TML]

More than 343,000 voters had returned their mail ballots, according to the data provided by the Pennsylvania Department of State, which oversees elections. Of those, 268,000 returned ballots came from Democrats and 74,000 came from Republicans.

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/live/pennsylvania-primary-2022-election-candidates-polls-20220510.html#card-1124223359

Remember that in the 2020 presidential election, Biden won mail-in voters 76-23, while Trump won Election Day voters 65-34. These numbers are simply a continuation of the partisan divide in terms of voting method.

[wbrocks67]

Zito is a hack, but this is par for the course for Barnette

https://twitter.com/philipaklein/status/1524406874703073282

[philly09]

https://twitter.com/RRHElections/status/1524499704830115840

[Arizona Iced Tea]

It's kind of interesting to compare this to the OH-11 special. They're obviously very different, but they have a number of similarities (Fetterman/Turner enter with significant progressive cred, huge name rec advantage, huge lead in polls, massive cash advantage, deranged KHive haters). However, Turner actually secured a number of important local endorsements, while Fetterman seems very hated by the PA Dem establishment. Nevertheless, Turner wasted her enormous lead while Fetterman remains far out ahead. Campaigns still matter, folks!

I don't think that's a good comparison. Fetterman won multiple elections as mayor and then Lt. Governor. He was progressive but made the right party connections the whole way. Turner just...didn't do that.

Is it really fair to say he won LT Gov when he just rode the ticket with Wolf? I don't think Fetterman running for LT Gov impacted the margin of the ticket. Idk it kind of feels like saying Kamala Harris or Mike Pence have demonstrated a success at winning when they were carried by Biden and Trump respectively and had little impact on the outcome of the election.

[LabourJersey]

It's kind of interesting to compare this to the OH-11 special. They're obviously very different, but they have a number of similarities (Fetterman/Turner enter with significant progressive cred, huge name rec advantage, huge lead in polls, massive cash advantage, deranged KHive haters). However, Turner actually secured a number of important local endorsements, while Fetterman seems very hated by the PA Dem establishment. Nevertheless, Turner wasted her enormous lead while Fetterman remains far out ahead. Campaigns still matter, folks!

I don't think that's a good comparison. Fetterman won multiple elections as mayor and then Lt. Governor. He was progressive but made the right party connections the whole way. Turner just...didn't do that.

Is it really fair to say he won LT Gov when he just rode the ticket with Wolf? I don't think Fetterman running for LT Gov impacted the margin of the ticket. Idk it kind of feels like saying Kamala Harris or Mike Pence have demonstrated a success at winning when they were carried by Biden and Trump respectively and had little impact on the outcome of the election.

In Pennsylvania Lt. Governors are nominated in a primary. Fetterman won in 2018 against multiple candidates (albeit a field where the Eastern PA candidates split their votes, but still)

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Just like if Keynetta Dropped out Lamb would Defeat Fetterman but Keynetta is in the race

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

https://twitter.com/AdImpact_Pol/status/1524099235263700993?t=QNrvxYhwsNtsPuZSYJ...
Club is such a clownshow with no ideological consistency.. supporting Mandel, Barnette and Masters.. what's the correlation.

CfG is about full on tearing down the government with the most radical Rand sh**t possible. Anyone that will sign onto the Paul Ryan/Rick Scott/etc. plan to defund everything gets their vote and everything else is window dressing.

[GoTfan]

Just like if Keynetta Dropped out Lamb would Defeat Fetterman but Keynetta is in the race

Unlikely. Kenyetta and Fetterman are both likely winning support from progressive groups.

[wbrocks67]

Another issue here is that Barnette is basically carpet-bagger-adjacent. She currently lives in Montco but even as of 2018, she was not a PA resident, and she was not born in PA either. So we know she's been living here as early as her 2020 race, but that's about it.

[Senator Incitatus]

Laughing at the Owens tweet saying that Philly voters think Lamb is "better in Congress." Nice reminder for this forum that the average voter has no idea what's going on.

Was having dinner with a friend and his parents (former-Reagan-Republicans-turned-Obama-Democrats), both Ivy League educated engineers. 

When a campaign ad appeared on TV for Josh Shapiro, this friend's mother turned to me and asked, "there's elections this year, right? What party is this guy?"

Ahhhh the American electorate. 

As they should be. Electoral politics is a hobby for those interested in geography and mass psychology but not really something the average person should concern themselves over.

[Senator Incitatus]

RE: Barnette's campaign not answering questions from reporters, we should probably keep in mind that she has an extremely amateur outfit. They're probably overwhelmed right now. Her surge has been entirely the result of two weak front-runners and her own personal charisma. They're playing the right strategy by simply hanging up on people.

[wbrocks67]

RE: Barnette's campaign not answering questions from reporters, we should probably keep in mind that she has an extremely amateur outfit. They're probably overwhelmed right now. Her surge has been entirely the result of two weak front-runners and her own personal charisma. They're playing the right strategy by simply hanging up on people.

Barnette has run a campaign before. It's not like she's a total amateur. Her team hanging up on people says more about how its likely that parts of her backstory are lies.