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« Reply #2175 on: April 27, 2022, 10:02:03 PM »



Kenyatta is such a better debater than Fetterman, it's not even funny.
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« Reply #2176 on: April 28, 2022, 05:30:58 AM »



Kenyatta is such a better debater than Fetterman, it's not even funny.

Bush W and Trump were lousy debators and still best Kerry and Hillary, Fetterman is doing well in polls because Obama whom endorsed Barnes in 2018 and WARNOCK in 2020 doesn't endorse Keynetta because he is gay that's why Keynetta is doing poorly in poll
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« Reply #2177 on: April 28, 2022, 08:17:27 AM »

Among Democrats.... (favs)
John Fetterman: 68/5 (+63)
Conor Lamb: 51/6 (+45)
Malcolm Kenyatta: 32/4 (+28)
Alexandria Khalil: 11/1 (+10)

Among Republicans... (favs)
David McCormick: 51/15 (+36)
Kathy Barnette: 37/5 (+32)
Jeff Bartos: 28/6 (+22)
Carla Sands: 25/4 (+21)
George Bochetto: 7/3 (+4)
Sean Gale: 7/4 (+3)
Mehmet Oz: 48/37 (+11)

That Oz number among a GOP primary is.... truly something. I would love to know what these numbers look like for the entire electorate (for both sides)
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« Reply #2178 on: April 28, 2022, 11:32:51 PM »



Fetterman has been endorsed by two Philly ward committees, and these ones are actually real.
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« Reply #2179 on: April 29, 2022, 04:38:03 PM »
« Edited: April 29, 2022, 04:45:20 PM by Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ »

Just mailed in my absentee ballot for Conor Lamb. Probably would have been worth the hassle to change party registrations just to feel like it mattered, but I really hoped this race would have been more competitive. :/ Another wasted vote.
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« Reply #2180 on: April 29, 2022, 07:27:01 PM »

According to Lamb he has been endorsed Philadelphia’s 86 3/4th precinct committee
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« Reply #2181 on: April 29, 2022, 07:33:27 PM »

According to Lamb he has been endorsed Philadelphia’s 86 3/4th precinct committee

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« Reply #2182 on: May 02, 2022, 05:15:24 PM »

I swear, it still feels like this primary isn't even happening.

Near where I'm from in Montgomery County, there is usually a ton of signs put up by now in the area. All the ones that I've seen are mostly just the ones that county GOP put up for Rick Saccone for LG and a few for Charles Gerow for Governor. The county GOP does not seem to be pushing any of the candidates in particular for Senate, and I have not seen a single sign for Oz, McCormick, or Lamb. I've only seen 1 Fetterman sign and it looks like it was from his 2018 run.
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« Reply #2183 on: May 02, 2022, 06:49:51 PM »

I actually saw a Fetterman sign in Lititz yesterday, which is pretty crazy. I’ve seen one Lamb sign in Berks County and of course my own Kenyatta sign.

I’ve seen an absolute TON of Kathy Barnette stuff lately. Stickers and signs galore. Seems her base is aligning with Mastriano’s because I often see their stuff together.
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« Reply #2184 on: May 02, 2022, 06:55:38 PM »

I think Oz is favored, but he may have a ceiling as he has the highest unfavorables and can't seem to get above 25% in polling. I also think Barnette has a shot at winning, with McCormick and Oz attacking each other the whole time.
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« Reply #2185 on: May 02, 2022, 06:56:58 PM »
« Edited: May 03, 2022, 12:09:08 PM by Open Border Advocate (Any/All) »

I swear, it still feels like this primary isn't even happening.

Near where I'm from in Montgomery County, there is usually a ton of signs put up by now in the area. All the ones that I've seen are mostly just the ones that county GOP put up for Rick Saccone for LG and a few for Charles Gerow for Governor. The county GOP does not seem to be pushing any of the candidates in particular for Senate, and I have not seen a single sign for Oz, McCormick, or Lamb. I've only seen 1 Fetterman sign and it looks like it was from his 2018 run.

The whole country has politics fatigue after the last four years

#MakePoliticsBoringAgin actually worked

Edit: this aged real bad real fast
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« Reply #2186 on: May 04, 2022, 07:21:09 AM »

Given last nights results, I could easily see the same pileup where we get like Oz 30%, McCormick 24%, Barnette 22%, etc.
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« Reply #2187 on: May 04, 2022, 07:23:25 AM »

It's a shame they won't release any GE polls it's almost June
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« Reply #2188 on: May 04, 2022, 08:55:48 AM »

Barnette would be the best of the three candidates IMO for Republicans.
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« Reply #2189 on: May 04, 2022, 09:03:36 AM »

Perhaps I'm too optimstic here, but this may be evidence that Fetterman may actually have shot. At least he shows up across the state, and if he can keep losses in rural areas somewhat down, it would be good.

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« Reply #2190 on: May 04, 2022, 09:15:14 AM »

Barnette would be the best of the three candidates IMO for Republicans.

In a GE? Absolutely not. Maybe in 2020 before she was outed as a far-right extremist, but she literally participated in the insurrection and not only said the 2020 vote was rigged, but refused to concede in her own race when she lost by... 20%.
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« Reply #2191 on: May 04, 2022, 11:07:36 AM »

Barnette would be the best of the three candidates IMO for Republicans.

In a GE? Absolutely not. Maybe in 2020 before she was outed as a far-right extremist, but she literally participated in the insurrection and not only said the 2020 vote was rigged, but refused to concede in her own race when she lost by... 20%.
Oz isn't popular with the base and is totally unproven, McCormick is a trust fund baby who supported Biden until recently. How are MAGA Republicans going to be excited for that?
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« Reply #2192 on: May 04, 2022, 11:09:47 AM »

Barnette would be the best of the three candidates IMO for Republicans.

In a GE? Absolutely not. Maybe in 2020 before she was outed as a far-right extremist, but she literally participated in the insurrection and not only said the 2020 vote was rigged, but refused to concede in her own race when she lost by... 20%.

She has also used the term "globalist" multiple times in debates. She is absolutely the most extreme candidate in the primary.
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« Reply #2193 on: May 04, 2022, 12:57:25 PM »

Barnette would be the best of the three candidates IMO for Republicans.

In a GE? Absolutely not. Maybe in 2020 before she was outed as a far-right extremist, but she literally participated in the insurrection and not only said the 2020 vote was rigged, but refused to concede in her own race when she lost by... 20%.
Oz isn't popular with the base and is totally unproven, McCormick is a trust fund baby who supported Biden until recently. How are MAGA Republicans going to be excited for that?

PA's base it not as hugely MAGA as other states, and you have a lot of moderate republicans who would be very turned off by Barnette's antics.
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« Reply #2194 on: May 04, 2022, 10:10:58 PM »

I didn't see too much of it but it seemed like the Republican primary Newsmax debate was asking better (or at least more interesting) questions than the debate two weeks back which was surprising. I have no idea who won, will have to watch it later if possible. Anyone else watch?
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« Reply #2195 on: May 05, 2022, 07:48:56 AM »

Fetterman actually has a better favorability now than Shapiro, which I've got to hand it to him - is very impressive.

Meanwhile, Oz is still considerably underwater even with the GOP primary electorate.

(all from new F&M poll)

Among Democrats (fav):
Joe Biden: 80/18 (was 74/23 in April)
John Fetterman: 67/8 (was 56/11 in April)
Josh Shapiro: 62/10 (was 61/9 in April)
Conor Lamb: 46/9 (was 39/12 in April)


Among Republicans (fav):
Donald Trump: 70/26 (was 78/18 in April)
Dave McCormick: 31/17 (was 29/15 in April)
Lou Barletta: 31/11 (was 34/6 in April)
Doug Mastriano: 29/12 (was 24/8 in April)
Mehmet Oz: 29/41 (was 27/39 in April)
Bill McSwain: 27/7
Dave White: 23/7
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« Reply #2196 on: May 05, 2022, 08:41:33 AM »


I am currently backing Conor Lamb, but I've watched Kenyatta effectively articulate himself and make his case. I could honestly see Lamb come in third. I agree that he really needs to switch this up and differentiate himself in the field. He's giving off too many "generic Dem" vibes and not enough energy brought to the table. I like his calm demeanor and blue-collar sentiment.

However, I could end up voting for Kenyatta if this keeps up. Fetterman, on the other hand, is unapologetic and comes off as callous. He's a terrible debater and can't throw together coherent points. Even still, he's the front-runner and doubt he wins the general. The man is too far left.

Then why is he winning easily? He can't be that bad of a candidate if he is crushing the field.

Purely name recognition and more funds. Nothing more.

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Hello, my friend.  A truly glorious day upcoming for Fetterman supporters.  I don't think Big John is likely to set the world on fire but he seems like a decent guy, which is more than I can say for a far-right creep like Lamb or the Chamber of Commerce veteran Kenyatta who wants to flex his faux-progressive muscle while doing the bidding of his capitalist leadership in the party. 
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« Reply #2197 on: May 05, 2022, 12:39:09 PM »


Kenyatta is such a better debater than Fetterman, it's not even funny.

Bush W and Trump were lousy debators and still best Kerry and Hillary, Fetterman is doing well in polls because Obama whom endorsed Barnes in 2018 and WARNOCK in 2020 doesn't endorse Keynetta because he is gay that's why Keynetta is doing poorly in poll

Obama's not endorsing Kenyatta because he's gay??
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« Reply #2198 on: May 05, 2022, 12:42:13 PM »


Kenyatta is such a better debater than Fetterman, it's not even funny.

I agree that Fetterman's performance in both of these was bad (he sounded so nervous and guilty) and that Kenyatta bested him. But Fetterman will still win the nomination - all this is doing is making him a weaker candidate in the general and making it slightly easier for the GOP to win the general. It's time for Kenyatta to stop.
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« Reply #2199 on: May 05, 2022, 02:24:43 PM »

Hmmmm...
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