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« Reply #18225 on: November 16, 2020, 04:48:45 AM »

One thing I am curious about is all these big surveys like the CCES, nationscape etc showed all these obama trump voters unhappy with Trump and liking Biden, mainly non-college whites in the midwest yet there was no swing, in the driftless region there was no swing, Trump did better in many counties in north-eastern Iowa and south-western WI than the did in 2016.

So were all these surveys trash, 2 years of survey data about non-college whites who had voted Obama than Trump  but were disillusioned with Trump going back to Biden, all this data just seems fake now, none of it materialised.

There are some specific parts of the rural/small-town Midwest that swung R, but based on what we're seeing right now, most of Middle America did swing to Biden (and a good part of it even trended D). Of course, it's not the 6-8 points polls were showing, and that will have to be seriously examined, but let's not act like the swing didn't even exist.
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« Reply #18226 on: November 16, 2020, 05:33:38 AM »

One thing I am curious about is all these big surveys like the CCES, nationscape etc showed all these obama trump voters unhappy with Trump and liking Biden, mainly non-college whites in the midwest yet there was no swing, in the driftless region there was no swing, Trump did better in many counties in north-eastern Iowa and south-western WI than the did in 2016.

So were all these surveys trash, 2 years of survey data about non-college whites who had voted Obama than Trump  but were disillusioned with Trump going back to Biden, all this data just seems fake now, none of it materialised.

There are some specific parts of the rural/small-town Midwest that swung R, but based on what we're seeing right now, most of Middle America did swing to Biden (and a good part of it even trended D). Of course, it's not the 6-8 points polls were showing, and that will have to be seriously examined, but let's not act like the swing didn't even exist.

The swing even in Middle America appears to have been college whites though, even small town counties in Missouri have college whites that could swing to Biden.
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« Reply #18227 on: November 16, 2020, 06:03:26 AM »
« Edited: November 16, 2020, 06:06:49 AM by wbrocks67 »

Biden's lead in PA is now up to +69,140. 70K imminent.

Illinois has also dumped more mail ballots, Biden lead up to +17.1%. No more swinging R from 2016. (although AP is showing this... Cook is still showing +16.6)

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« Reply #18228 on: November 16, 2020, 06:10:11 AM »

Biden's lead in PA is now up to +69,140. 70K imminent.

Illinois has also dumped more mail ballots, Biden lead up to +17.1%. No more swinging R from 2016. (although AP is showing this... Cook is still showing +16.6)



What's the outstanding vote count in PA?
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« Reply #18229 on: November 16, 2020, 06:47:20 AM »

Biden's lead in PA is now up to +69,140. 70K imminent.

Illinois has also dumped more mail ballots, Biden lead up to +17.1%. No more swinging R from 2016. (although AP is showing this... Cook is still showing +16.6)



What's the outstanding vote count in PA?

Hard to tell... the PA DOS website says about 30K mail ins are left to be counted. Not sure if that's fully accurate though. There is smatterings here and there. Allegheny apparently still has ~5K mail ins and ~5K provisionals still. Philly still has ~7K mail-ins and at least 10-15K provisionals, while some counties like Berks and Lehigh have counted 0 provisionals yet and many counties don't appear to be done yet. I think there's enough out to push Biden's lead up to at least 75-85K. Outside chance at 100K depending on what is out though.
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« Reply #18230 on: November 16, 2020, 07:16:09 AM »


Glad to see the good people at Barack Ofraudo have figured out how to do internet graphics beyond 1995-level quality.
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« Reply #18231 on: November 16, 2020, 08:16:48 AM »



Not them mixing up Richmond County and Richmond City...
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« Reply #18232 on: November 16, 2020, 08:22:44 AM »

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« Reply #18233 on: November 16, 2020, 08:27:16 AM »

Uh, what.
Why do Dems flip two Trump counties, one of which has only voted Dem once since 1976, and which has never gave Dems the majority of the vote any election since at least the turn of the century?
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« Reply #18234 on: November 16, 2020, 08:58:11 AM »

I LOLed at that map. Giving all but one of the competitive states to Trump? Hilarious. Red VA? Icing on the cake.

Funny how there’s no detected fraud in “crazy California”
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« Reply #18235 on: November 16, 2020, 10:07:22 AM »

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Note: In some cases the latest voting data may be delayed, and as more fraud is reported and analysed the fraud numbers may continue increase. We have a significant amount of voting data and fraud examples that we have received and have yet to process, so expect regular updates.

Did Trump put this website together himself? It's doing that thing where it keys in on one word and uses it ad nauseum

"Sure there's fraud.  Lots of fraud.  Even the smallest examples of fraud are huge examples of fraud.  All part of the fraud hoax.  All a hoax." 
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« Reply #18236 on: November 16, 2020, 10:13:29 AM »

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Note: In some cases the latest voting data may be delayed, and as more fraud is reported and analysed the fraud numbers may continue increase. We have a significant amount of voting data and fraud examples that we have received and have yet to process, so expect regular updates.

Did Trump put this website together himself? It's doing that thing where it keys in on one word and uses it ad nauseum

"Sure there's fraud.  Lots of fraud.  Even the smallest examples of fraud are huge examples of fraud.  All part of the fraud hoax.  All a hoax." 


To the tune of the "Mr. Ed" theme song:

A hoax is a hoax (now listen folks!)
And no one should fall for a hoax (no jokes!)
That is, of course, unless the hoax
Is the famous voter fraud!

(I'll get my coat...)
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« Reply #18237 on: November 16, 2020, 10:19:36 AM »

Update: Biden has crossed 51% of the NPV, Trump at 47.3%. He's on track having a larger PV win than Obama '12.

NYS has still 84% counted. That's pathetic. What are they doing?
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« Reply #18238 on: November 16, 2020, 10:20:28 AM »

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Note: In some cases the latest voting data may be delayed, and as more fraud is reported and analysed the fraud numbers may continue increase. We have a significant amount of voting data and fraud examples that we have received and have yet to process, so expect regular updates.

Did Trump put this website together himself? It's doing that thing where it keys in on one word and uses it ad nauseum.  

"Sure there's fraud.  Lots of fraud.  Even the smallest examples of fraud are huge examples of fraud.  All part of the fraud hoax.  All a hoax."  

"I know a lot of fraudsters. They tell me, look, Sleepy Joe is the greatest fraudster ever. The greatest one. And they go on and say, Sleepy Joe defrauded Americans with these - discoveries - of ballots, these mail-in ballots, that have been a total disaster. Total disaster. And, who am I to doubt them? I have only the most perceptive friends. The most perceptive. Believe me."
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« Reply #18239 on: November 16, 2020, 10:20:45 AM »

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Note: In some cases the latest voting data may be delayed, and as more fraud is reported and analysed the fraud numbers may continue increase. We have a significant amount of voting data and fraud examples that we have received and have yet to process, so expect regular updates.

Did Trump put this website together himself? It's doing that thing where it keys in on one word and uses it ad nauseum

"Sure there's fraud.  Lots of fraud.  Even the smallest examples of fraud are huge examples of fraud.  All part of the fraud hoax.  All a hoax." 



Our election was hijacked by #BigFatFraud. There is no question. Congress has a duty to #ProtectOurDemocracyFromFraud & #FollowTheFactsNotTheFraud. #SAD #iWonTheElection



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« Reply #18240 on: November 16, 2020, 10:25:24 AM »

Update: Biden has crossed 51% of the NPV, Trump at 47.3%. He's on track having a larger PV win than Obama '12.

NYS has still 84% counted. That's pathetic. What are they doing?

It doesn't appear that NYC has counted anything either. The topline state #s at Cook/DDHQ/ etc have barely moved.

Likewise, still waiting for OH to start counting any of its additional mail in votes.
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« Reply #18241 on: November 16, 2020, 10:28:21 AM »

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Note: In some cases the latest voting data may be delayed, and as more fraud is reported and analysed the fraud numbers may continue increase. We have a significant amount of voting data and fraud examples that we have received and have yet to process, so expect regular updates.

Did Trump put this website together himself? It's doing that thing where it keys in on one word and uses it ad nauseum

"Sure there's fraud.  Lots of fraud.  Even the smallest examples of fraud are huge examples of fraud.  All part of the fraud hoax.  All a hoax." 



This may well be the case.  Wink + Tongue There are 11 counties in VA where Trump has over 100% of the vote when you click on "without voter fraud". Lee County takes the cake with 112.73%. Also, he's at 102.1% in Fulton County, PA. This is funny.
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« Reply #18242 on: November 16, 2020, 10:30:48 AM »

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Note: In some cases the latest voting data may be delayed, and as more fraud is reported and analysed the fraud numbers may continue increase. We have a significant amount of voting data and fraud examples that we have received and have yet to process, so expect regular updates.

Did Trump put this website together himself? It's doing that thing where it keys in on one word and uses it ad nauseum

"Sure there's fraud.  Lots of fraud.  Even the smallest examples of fraud are huge examples of fraud.  All part of the fraud hoax.  All a hoax." 



This may well be the case.  Wink + Tongue There are 11 counties in VA where Trump has over 100% of the vote when you click on "without voter fraud". Lee County takes the cake with 112.73%. Also, he's at 102.1% in Fulton County, PA. This is funny.
plz link. I want to see this for myself.
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« Reply #18243 on: November 16, 2020, 10:33:21 AM »

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Note: In some cases the latest voting data may be delayed, and as more fraud is reported and analysed the fraud numbers may continue increase. We have a significant amount of voting data and fraud examples that we have received and have yet to process, so expect regular updates.

Did Trump put this website together himself? It's doing that thing where it keys in on one word and uses it ad nauseum

"Sure there's fraud.  Lots of fraud.  Even the smallest examples of fraud are huge examples of fraud.  All part of the fraud hoax.  All a hoax." 



This may well be the case.  Wink + Tongue There are 11 counties in VA where Trump has over 100% of the vote when you click on "without voter fraud". Lee County takes the cake with 112.73%. Also, he's at 102.1% in Fulton County, PA. This is funny.
plz link. I want to see this for myself.

Go on the website, select VA, click on "without voter fraud" and then scroll down to see all the counties.
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« Reply #18244 on: November 16, 2020, 10:33:41 AM »

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Note: In some cases the latest voting data may be delayed, and as more fraud is reported and analysed the fraud numbers may continue increase. We have a significant amount of voting data and fraud examples that we have received and have yet to process, so expect regular updates.

Did Trump put this website together himself? It's doing that thing where it keys in on one word and uses it ad nauseum

"Sure there's fraud.  Lots of fraud.  Even the smallest examples of fraud are huge examples of fraud.  All part of the fraud hoax.  All a hoax." 



This may well be the case.  Wink + Tongue There are 11 counties in VA where Trump has over 100% of the vote when you click on "without voter fraud". Lee County takes the cake with 112.73%. Also, he's at 102.1% in Fulton County, PA. This is funny.
plz link. I want to see this for myself.

Go on the website, select VA, click on "without voter fraud" and then scroll down to see all the counties.
no I mean the website itself.
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« Reply #18245 on: November 16, 2020, 10:35:44 AM »

Update: Biden has crossed 51% of the NPV, Trump at 47.3%. He's on track having a larger PV win than Obama '12.

NYS has still 84% counted. That's pathetic. What are they doing?

It doesn't appear that NYC has counted anything either. The topline state #s at Cook/DDHQ/ etc have barely moved.

Likewise, still waiting for OH to start counting any of its additional mail in votes.

Some counties in NYS will only start counting absentee ballots today and the military ballots deadline was today. The majority started counting them during last week. Counting could last this week and the next one, probably.

https://eu.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2020/11/10/new-york-absentee-counting-why-taking-so-long/6232803002/
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« Reply #18246 on: November 16, 2020, 10:36:47 AM »

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Note: In some cases the latest voting data may be delayed, and as more fraud is reported and analysed the fraud numbers may continue increase. We have a significant amount of voting data and fraud examples that we have received and have yet to process, so expect regular updates.

Did Trump put this website together himself? It's doing that thing where it keys in on one word and uses it ad nauseum

"Sure there's fraud.  Lots of fraud.  Even the smallest examples of fraud are huge examples of fraud.  All part of the fraud hoax.  All a hoax." 



This may well be the case.  Wink + Tongue There are 11 counties in VA where Trump has over 100% of the vote when you click on "without voter fraud". Lee County takes the cake with 112.73%. Also, he's at 102.1% in Fulton County, PA. This is funny.
plz link. I want to see this for myself.

Go on the website, select VA, click on "without voter fraud" and then scroll down to see all the counties.
no I mean the website itself.

https://everylegalvote.com/
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« Reply #18247 on: November 16, 2020, 10:37:11 AM »


https://everylegalvote.com/state/51
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« Reply #18248 on: November 16, 2020, 10:39:58 AM »

Update: Biden has crossed 51% of the NPV, Trump at 47.3%. He's on track having a larger PV win than Obama '12.

NYS has still 84% counted. That's pathetic. What are they doing?

It doesn't appear that NYC has counted anything either. The topline state #s at Cook/DDHQ/ etc have barely moved.

Likewise, still waiting for OH to start counting any of its additional mail in votes.

Some counties in NYS will only start counting absentee ballots today and the military ballots deadline was today. The majority started counting them during last week. Counting could last this week and the next one, probably.

https://eu.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2020/11/10/new-york-absentee-counting-why-taking-so-long/6232803002/

Yeah, this is completely unacceptable. There's no reason states like FL, TX, NC can get everything counted so quickly and states like NY are taking *weeks*
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« Reply #18249 on: November 16, 2020, 10:41:19 AM »


So, according to them, in Virginia almost 1 million votes were fraudulent?

Well, I'll have what they're having please.
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