2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[Middle-aged Europe]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1326525851752656898

I guess the narrative is clear now. Any Republican who doesn't support Trump's election fraud allegations is a "RINO". Accusing Biden of election fraud is now what the Republican Party is about.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/SeanTrende/status/1325824446616248320

[Gass3268]

It's kind of ridiculous that Georgia has not been called. A recount is not changing 14K and we don't even know if there even will be one.

Right, isn't this the exact situation the designation of "apparent winner" was meant for?

My "guess" is that the networks are waiting for the counties to finish certifying their results, and then will call it. That should happen this week.

Probably gonna be a while:

https://twitter.com/AmyEGardner/status/1326547451688308748?s=20

Looks like Amy was wrong and Georgia will be getting a limited audit/sample recount:

https://twitter.com/KimZetter/status/1326551144911368195?s=20

[Badger]

i'm annoyed at this result as a republican, but it's fired me up as hell to vote these liberals out in 2022. leggo

Yes, because Trump's demonstrating that the real problem with this country and its divisions are - - checks notes - - liberals.

God do we need the eye roll Emoji back

[Lurker]

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1326524820658511872

Mr. Trump is now at him. This dude is human scum. Sorry for the harsh term, but that's what it is. Maybe someone with a Twitter account can report this. Intimitating people by name with this number of followers is despicable. It should be deleted.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1326525851752656898

And so is anyone supporting his comments. An absolutely disgusting man without a single redeemable quality.

[Badger]

i'm annoyed at this result as a republican, but it's fired me up as hell to vote these liberals out in 2022. leggo

I disagree with almost everything you stand for, but that's a perfectly fine response - "We lost. We'll get them next time."

How do you feel that the sitting President is attempting to invalidate election results? Does it bother you that the country looks like it is on its way to becoming a failed state? How do you feel that the President hinted at this behavior over the course of his term and was not taken seriously?

nah i'm fine with this because i had to deal with the liberals complaining and bitching about trump for 4yrs so anything to mess with the biden administration with incoming susan rice getting a job again it's so sad LOL i hope hillary gets something too the old hag needs something too

The old hag? Grow up you misogynist little child.

BTW, we bitched and whined about Trump for 4 years because he gave us every objective reason to do so on literally a daily basis. The fact that you are immune to that reality is not our fault.

[GeorgiaModerate]

It's kind of ridiculous that Georgia has not been called. A recount is not changing 14K and we don't even know if there even will be one.

Right, isn't this the exact situation the designation of "apparent winner" was meant for?

My "guess" is that the networks are waiting for the counties to finish certifying their results, and then will call it. That should happen this week.

Probably gonna be a while:

https://twitter.com/AmyEGardner/status/1326547451688308748?s=20

Looks like Amy was wrong and Georgia will be getting a limited audit/sample recount:

https://twitter.com/KimZetter/status/1326551144911368195?s=20

And that audit process is standard in Georgia. It's not something special for this election.

[afleitch]

One amazing take away from this election is that many Americans don't know how any of this process works from rehistering to voting to counting. Or they do and prefer to martial conspiracy ahead of basic civics.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1326526690558955520

[Tender Branson]

What does -8.994 votes mean at the bottom of the results table ?

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=2020&minper=0&f=1&off=0&elect=0

[MillennialModerate]

Any chance we get a Arizona projection today? That would officially make the margin two states at least

[LabourJersey]

One amazing take away from this election is that many Americans don't know how any of this process works from registering to voting to counting. Or they do and prefer to martial conspiracy ahead of basic civics.

The fragmentation of election systems in this country does a tremendous amount of harm to people's confidence in government.

I'm increasingly convinced we absolutely need a uniform set of standards for registration, for counting and for recounts across all states. And also probably consolidate the number of elections at the state/local levels too.

[GeorgiaModerate]

OK, it is indeed a statewide hand recount of the presidential race:

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Wednesday ordered a recount of all 5 million ballots cast in the presidential election to check initial results showing President-elect Joe Biden won by 14,000 votes.

Raffensperger, a Republican, said the recount will be conducted by hand in each of Georgia’s 159 counties, and it must be completed by a Nov. 20 deadline to finalize election results. Poll workers will review the printed text on ballots and then sort them into piles to check the accuracy of results.

The recount will be combined with a previously planned audit of paper ballots. But instead of auditing a relatively small sample of ballots, the review will encompass all ballots.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-launches-statewide-hand-recount-of-presidential-race/7PWR53SU6BAWDBOFRBJAW6HERA/

I believe three previous Georgia elections (not presidential) have been overturned by recount, but in those cases the margin was in the hundreds of votes or less.

[ucscgaldamez1]

Since it's a holiday, will Arizona report any votes today? I see Georgia reporting additional votes.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Since it's a holiday, will Arizona report any votes today? I see Georgia reporting additional votes.

The Arizona estimated ballots site had a small change overnight; it looks like Coconino County zeroed out their estimates.  They only had about 950 listed before that, so it's not a big change, and it's kind of a wash -- it's a good county for Biden, but the change reduces the pool of remaining votes from which Trump can gain.

Five counties now estimate zero votes left: Coconino, Gila, La Paz, Mohave, and Navajo.  Three others (Graham, Greenlee, and Santa Cruz) estimate fewer than 10 left.

[Del Tachi]

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Dumb figure.  Tens of millions of Trump voters live in the Blue counties (and many of them higher-earning than their Democratic neighbors.)

Was waiting for this argument to happen and it's complete BS.  The Trump voters in those blue counties tend to be the same kinds of unproductive members of society as the ones in red counties. 

No.  GDP is just a proxy for urbanity.  Trust me, the >1M GOP voters in Los Angeles and Cook County are much, much more productive members of society than the >1M Biden voters living in the Black Belt or on Native American reservations    

And nowadays isn't urbanity a proxy for Liberal democratic government? Exceptions to the rule, sure, but rare ones and growing rarer by the year.

No.  Of the twenty largest metro areas in the U.S., 8 of them are in states with Republican governors (7 with GOP trifectas).  That is not exceptional. 

The rest of your post is drivel.   

81% of the U.S. population is urban.  To think that Democrats win an overwhelmingly vast majority of these voters is wrong.  Trump will easily get more votes (in total) from urban areas than he will from rural areas, just as Biden will too.

Oh, so now you're trying to tie some incomplete half assed selection of GOVERNORS to wealth in Democratic run urban areas. Wow. that has droppd from silly to laughable!

Oh c'mon, can you stop acting so dumb Badger?

Georgia, Texas and Florida (three of the most urban, fastest-growing states in the whole country) have been pretty much exclusively governed by GOP trifectas for the past two decades.  This fact isn't "half assed" because (as you should know) governors, state legislatures and counties (which are administrative jurisdictions of the state) are responsible for implementing/enforcing laws relevant to economic growth/development:  taxes, public education, infrastructure, insurance law, environmental regulation, zoning/construction law, employment law, etc.  The powers of mayors/cities are explicitly subordinate to unitary State authority as defined by the relevant state statute/charter. 

However, my argument isn't that GOP control = economic/urban dynamism.  That's your argument! (albeit in the opposite partisan direction) but you haven't demonstrated any actual reason or evidence for it, lol.   It should be pretty obvious that post-industrial urban growth/economic development depends on a lot of social/economic factors that aren't really that politically-dictated.   So, my point remains:  you can't *infer how much some "contributes" to the economy from their vote, and there are plenty of dirt poor Democrats (as well as Republicans) to go around for everyone.     

[Gass3268]

Big dump yesterday in Illinois, massively went towards Biden:

https://twitter.com/williamjordann/status/1326564582765244418?s=20

[Roll Roons]

One amazing take away from this election is that many Americans don't know how any of this process works from registering to voting to counting. Or they do and prefer to martial conspiracy ahead of basic civics.

The fragmentation of election systems in this country does a tremendous amount of harm to people's confidence in government.

I'm increasingly convinced we absolutely need a uniform set of standards for registration, for counting and for recounts across all states. And also probably consolidate the number of elections at the state/local levels too.

1000% agree. For starters, require absentee/mail ballots to be received by poll closing time on election day and allow ballots to be processed two weeks before.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/toddgillman/status/1326568128843821056

[DaleCooper]

A hand recount is insane for a margin of 14,000 votes.

[dspNY]

OK, it is indeed a statewide hand recount of the presidential race:

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Wednesday ordered a recount of all 5 million ballots cast in the presidential election to check initial results showing President-elect Joe Biden won by 14,000 votes.

Raffensperger, a Republican, said the recount will be conducted by hand in each of Georgia’s 159 counties, and it must be completed by a Nov. 20 deadline to finalize election results. Poll workers will review the printed text on ballots and then sort them into piles to check the accuracy of results.

The recount will be combined with a previously planned audit of paper ballots. But instead of auditing a relatively small sample of ballots, the review will encompass all ballots.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-launches-statewide-hand-recount-of-presidential-race/7PWR53SU6BAWDBOFRBJAW6HERA/

I believe three previous Georgia elections (not presidential) have been overturned by recount, but in those cases the margin was in the hundreds of votes or less.

Aren't most of Georgia's ballots on touch screen computers (aka they are not paper ballots)

[BigSerg]

https://twitter.com/davidjoachim/status/1326572197809418241?s=20

[Skill and Chance]

OK, it is indeed a statewide hand recount of the presidential race:

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Wednesday ordered a recount of all 5 million ballots cast in the presidential election to check initial results showing President-elect Joe Biden won by 14,000 votes.

Raffensperger, a Republican, said the recount will be conducted by hand in each of Georgia’s 159 counties, and it must be completed by a Nov. 20 deadline to finalize election results. Poll workers will review the printed text on ballots and then sort them into piles to check the accuracy of results.

The recount will be combined with a previously planned audit of paper ballots. But instead of auditing a relatively small sample of ballots, the review will encompass all ballots.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-launches-statewide-hand-recount-of-presidential-race/7PWR53SU6BAWDBOFRBJAW6HERA/

I believe three previous Georgia elections (not presidential) have been overturned by recount, but in those cases the margin was in the hundreds of votes or less.

Aren't most of Georgia's ballots on touch screen computers (aka they are not paper ballots)

They recently replaced them with touchscreen devices that print out paper receipts of every vote.  Those receipts are what will be counted presumably. 

[GeorgiaModerate]

OK, it is indeed a statewide hand recount of the presidential race:

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Wednesday ordered a recount of all 5 million ballots cast in the presidential election to check initial results showing President-elect Joe Biden won by 14,000 votes.

Raffensperger, a Republican, said the recount will be conducted by hand in each of Georgia’s 159 counties, and it must be completed by a Nov. 20 deadline to finalize election results. Poll workers will review the printed text on ballots and then sort them into piles to check the accuracy of results.

The recount will be combined with a previously planned audit of paper ballots. But instead of auditing a relatively small sample of ballots, the review will encompass all ballots.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-launches-statewide-hand-recount-of-presidential-race/7PWR53SU6BAWDBOFRBJAW6HERA/

I believe three previous Georgia elections (not presidential) have been overturned by recount, but in those cases the margin was in the hundreds of votes or less.

Aren't most of Georgia's ballots on touch screen computers (aka they are not paper ballots)

They recently replaced them with touchscreen devices that print out paper receipts of every vote.  Those receipts are what will be counted presumably. 

This is correct.  Prior to this year, voting in person was entirely electronic.  Now you still use touchscreen machines which print a paper ballot that you can then check, and on your way out of the polling station, you insert into a scanner that counts the ballot and retains it for audit purposes.

[pppolitics]

OK, it is indeed a statewide hand recount of the presidential race:

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Wednesday ordered a recount of all 5 million ballots cast in the presidential election to check initial results showing President-elect Joe Biden won by 14,000 votes.

Raffensperger, a Republican, said the recount will be conducted by hand in each of Georgia’s 159 counties, and it must be completed by a Nov. 20 deadline to finalize election results. Poll workers will review the printed text on ballots and then sort them into piles to check the accuracy of results.

The recount will be combined with a previously planned audit of paper ballots. But instead of auditing a relatively small sample of ballots, the review will encompass all ballots.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-launches-statewide-hand-recount-of-presidential-race/7PWR53SU6BAWDBOFRBJAW6HERA/

I believe three previous Georgia elections (not presidential) have been overturned by recount, but in those cases the margin was in the hundreds of votes or less.

What happens if the recount isn't finish by Nov. 20?

The original result stands?