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« Reply #10550 on: November 05, 2020, 02:03:26 PM »


"please have all facts and evidence"

It would be... very unfortunate if somehow a bunch of people were to flood this site with nonsense that has nothing to do with voter fraud.
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« Reply #10551 on: November 05, 2020, 02:04:11 PM »



Good to know! Thanks!!!

WOW!  The fraud is coincidentally all in the battleground states Trump lost.  Can't believe it.
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« Reply #10552 on: November 05, 2020, 02:04:39 PM »


"please have all facts and evidence"

Who needs facts when your last name is Trump?
I guess you can say that last name trumps any need to follow normal standards of logic, truth, or claim-making of any kind.
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« Reply #10553 on: November 05, 2020, 02:04:51 PM »


"please have all facts and evidence"

It would be... very unfortunate if somehow a bunch of people were to flood this site with nonsense that has nothing to do with voter fraud.

I'm thinking about responding and saying that there is a fraudulent organization known as the Trump campaign trying to stop the counting of ballots. Ha!
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« Reply #10554 on: November 05, 2020, 02:04:52 PM »

Kind of feels like Biden is the clear favorite in Georgia now but the final margin will be tiny (a couple thousand).

What are the chances that the overseas military ballots turn the small margin around again, so that Trump wins it ?

Just accept that you lost your bet.

All votes must be counted.

Losing that bet (Trump ends between 240-268EV) would mean missing 450€ !

But I have won another 450€ bet, by predicting Biden wins the election by losing FL and OH and a few smaller ones for 100€.
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« Reply #10555 on: November 05, 2020, 02:04:58 PM »

Trump's frivolous litigation and fraud allegations should have its own thread.
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« Reply #10556 on: November 05, 2020, 02:05:01 PM »

While I do want Biden to win the popular vote with as big as margin as possible, it is very discouraging going forward if he actually ends up winning the NPV by 5 points in SUCH a tight election where numerous states are super close. The NPV-EC discrepancy is getting unsustainably large. Are we really at a point where democrats have to get 5%-points more votes than republicans to win elections?

It could be Trump specific. Dems had structural advantages in electoral college in '08 and '12 and probably '04.

edit: changed '16 to '12
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« Reply #10557 on: November 05, 2020, 02:05:14 PM »



Good to know! Thanks!!!

WOW!  The fraud is coincidentally all in the battleground states Trump lost.  Can't believe it.

Democrat run states.
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« Reply #10558 on: November 05, 2020, 02:06:06 PM »



Good to know! Thanks!!!

WOW!  The fraud is coincidentally all in the battleground states Trump lost.  Can't believe it.

Democrat run states.


Georgia is a Democrat-run state? News to me!
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« Reply #10559 on: November 05, 2020, 02:06:07 PM »

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« Reply #10560 on: November 05, 2020, 02:06:31 PM »



Good to know! Thanks!!!

WOW!  The fraud is coincidentally all in the battleground states Trump lost.  Can't believe it.

Democrat run states.


 I wish Georgia was Democratic run.
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« Reply #10561 on: November 05, 2020, 02:06:39 PM »



Good to know! Thanks!!!

WOW!  The fraud is coincidentally all in the battleground states Trump lost.  Can't believe it.

Democrat run states.


Georgia is a Democrat-run state? News to me!

No fraud in Georgia.
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« Reply #10562 on: November 05, 2020, 02:07:18 PM »



Good to know! Thanks!!!

WOW!  The fraud is coincidentally all in the battleground states Trump lost.  Can't believe it.

Democrat run states.


North Carolina has a Democratic Secretary of State.
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« Reply #10563 on: November 05, 2020, 02:07:21 PM »

While I do want Biden to win the popular vote with as big as margin as possible, it is very discouraging going forward if he actually ends up winning the NPV by 5 points in SUCH a tight election where numerous states are super close. The NPV-EC discrepancy is getting unsustainably large. Are we really at a point where democrats have to get 5%-points more votes than republicans to win elections?

It could be Trump specific. Dems had structural advantages in electoral college in '08 and '12 and probably '04.

edit: changed '16 to '12

But if the urban/rural divide gets even bigger, then it only benefits Rs in the EV
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« Reply #10564 on: November 05, 2020, 02:07:23 PM »

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News network decision desks are facing some pressure here in an era where Trump is trying to undermine trust in the vote count. You certainly don’t want to make a call prematurely, but you also don’t want to give him more time to make unfounded and incorrect claims.
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« Reply #10565 on: November 05, 2020, 02:07:26 PM »

While there's obviously not been any serious fraud, it is really, really bad that it is taking these urban centers so long to count votes. Plenty of places in the country count all their votes on election day, including many millions of votes. It does undermine faith in the system when one candidate is leading and votes exclusively for the other candidate come out of a big urban center gradually in a trickle over several days.

I think this is something that should be bipartisan in fixing - doesn't everyone want the votes to be counted in a more orderly fashion? There's no reason Biden should've had to wait days and days to declare victory, and it does nothing but sow dissent and allow Trump to promulgate falsehoods to have places like Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Las Vegas hold off on counting their votes for days upon days before declaring 'oh btw all the votes were for Biden lul'.

I do understand that Michigan and Pennsylvania had no VBM counting previously and that the coronavirus made things uniquely difficult in this election, but that's really no excuse and doesn't even apply to Arizona or Nevada or Georgia. California is also a really awful culprit of just being completely incompetent at counting votes and is basically the main reason why I don't personally support a NPV - if places could count votes in a reasonable time and with some accountability to a federal agency (or with some kind of SSN national registry of voting) then I'd be much more receptive to the idea. I'm sure I'm not alone on that either - the reality is that there will be millions and millions of Americans who have very little faith in our system as a result of how long these places are taking. There's just no excuse for it.
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« Reply #10566 on: November 05, 2020, 02:07:58 PM »

(NYT) -- 2:00pm

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The registrar in Clark County (Las Vegas) said the county would release the next batch of votes around noon ET on Friday. Remaining votes include mail and provisional ballots.
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« Reply #10567 on: November 05, 2020, 02:08:16 PM »



Good to know! Thanks!!!

WOW!  The fraud is coincidentally all in the battleground states Trump lost.  Can't believe it.

Democrat run states.


Georgia is a Democrat-run state? News to me!

No fraud in Georgia.
No fraud anywhere because voter fraud is a myth.
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« Reply #10568 on: November 05, 2020, 02:08:23 PM »

Kind of feels like Biden is the clear favorite in Georgia now but the final margin will be tiny (a couple thousand).

What are the chances that the overseas military ballots turn the small margin around again, so that Trump wins it ?

Just accept that you lost your bet.

Losing that bet (Trump ends between 240-268EV) would mean missing 450€ !

Cope
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« Reply #10569 on: November 05, 2020, 02:08:50 PM »



Good to know! Thanks!!!

WOW!  The fraud is coincidentally all in the battleground states Trump lost.  Can't believe it.

Democrat run states.


Georgia is a Democrat-run state? News to me!

No fraud in Georgia.

Either "[t]he amount of FRAUD being reported in... Georgia... is unreal" or there's "[n]o fraud in Georgia." Can't have it both ways.
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« Reply #10570 on: November 05, 2020, 02:09:03 PM »



Good to know! Thanks!!!

WOW!  The fraud is coincidentally all in the battleground states Trump lost.  Can't believe it.

Democrat run states.


Georgia is a Democrat-run state? News to me!

No fraud in Georgia.

Trump's campaign just tried a failed lawsuit in Georgia claiming fraud and electoral counting malpractice. Try again.
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« Reply #10571 on: November 05, 2020, 02:09:38 PM »

Is it just me or did a batch of the Clark County NV late votes go heavily for Trump? Biden's lead there looks narrower than on Nov 3rd
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« Reply #10572 on: November 05, 2020, 02:09:57 PM »

Remember when we actually had a case of voter fraud in North Carolina- what party was it again?
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« Reply #10573 on: November 05, 2020, 02:10:12 PM »



Good to know! Thanks!!!

WOW!  The fraud is coincidentally all in the battleground states Trump lost.  Can't believe it.

Democrat run states.


Georgia is a Democrat-run state? News to me!

No fraud in Georgia.

Trump's campaign just tried a failed lawsuit in Georgia claiming fraud and electoral counting malpractice. Try again.

There you go. There is no fraud in Georgia. Says the court.
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« Reply #10574 on: November 05, 2020, 02:11:00 PM »



Good to know! Thanks!!!

WOW!  The fraud is coincidentally all in the battleground states Trump lost.  Can't believe it.

Democrat run states.


Georgia is a Democrat-run state? News to me!

No fraud in Georgia.

Trump's campaign just tried a failed lawsuit in Georgia claiming fraud and electoral counting malpractice. Try again.

There you go. There is no fraud in Georgia. Says the court.

Courts also said that in Nevada and Pennsylvania
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