Derek Chauvin trial megathread (SENTENCED TO 22.5 YEARS IN PRISON)

[Alben Barkley]

"If you can talk, you can breathe" will become the white conservative's "Hands up, don't shoot!"; and I already see this lining up perfectly with the riots and backlash from a likely hung jury/not guilty.

We've been slowly descending toward chaos since 2016, why do any of you think this will work out well this time?

1. Just in 2019, Amber Guyger was found guilty and sentenced 10 years in a case that was maybe even less clear-cut than this one. In TEXAS. So clearly cops can be found guilty in particularly egregious cases, and especially given how many cops testified against Chauvin, it’s not looking good for him.

2. You cited the racial make-up of the jury, assuming all whites even in a place like Minneapolis are racist I guess, yet 4 of the jurors are black. You really think they will all vote NOT guilty? Of course not. Mistrial is absolutely Chauvin’s best possible outcome. Otherwise the defense wouldn’t have bothered to already motion for a mistrial over Maxine Waters’s dumb comments; THEY think it’s likely he’ll be convicted!

3. The defense’s arguments were crap. They claimed it wasn’t excessive use of force; countless cops said otherwise. They claimed Chauvin didn’t even kill him; both autopsies concluded it was a homicide and the testimony of that doctor pretty decisively proved he was asphyxiated. No other expert testimony was remotely as convincing.

[CookieDamage]

"If you can talk, you can breathe" will become the white conservative's "Hands up, don't shoot!"; and I already see this lining up perfectly with the riots and backlash from a likely hung jury/not guilty.

We've been slowly descending toward chaos since 2016, why do any of you think this will work out well this time?

1. Just in 2019, Amber Guyger was found guilty and sentenced 10 years in a case that was maybe even less clear-cut than this one. In TEXAS. So clearly cops can be found guilty in particularly egregious cases, and especially given how many cops testified against Chauvin, it’s not looking good for him.

2. You cited the racial make-up of the jury, assuming all whites even in a place like Minneapolis are racist I guess, yet 4 of the jurors are black. You really think they will all vote NOT guilty? Of course not. Mistrial is absolutely Chauvin’s best possible outcome. Otherwise the defense wouldn’t have bothered to already motion for a mistrial over Maxine Waters’s dumb comments; THEY think it’s likely he’ll be convicted!

3. The defense’s arguments were crap. They claimed it wasn’t excessive use of force; countless cops said otherwise. They claimed Chauvin didn’t even kill him; both autopsies concluded it was a homicide and the testimony of that doctor pretty decisively proved he was asphyxiated. No other expert testimony was remotely as convincing.

Yeah there's NO way he's found not guilty on any charge. Best for him is a mistrial on the more serious charges and guilty/mistrial on manslaughter. The black jurors are 99.99% going with guilty for the 2nd and 3rd degree murder unless the jurors are Stacey Dash, David Clarke, Vernon Jones, and Candace Owens.

[lfromnj]

By the way which idiot let this trial be televised?

[John Dule]

By the way which idiot let this trial be televised?

Television cameras should be banned in all courtrooms, and the names of defendants should be kept anonymous until the trial has concluded.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Maxine Waters know that Floyd family got 27M that's why Jackson and LeBron isnt speaking out on it and she gave the Defense a leg to stand on in an Appeal, he is guilty of manslaughter, but it can be overturned on Appeal, she is my Congresswoman too

[Real Texan Politics]

she is my Congresswoman too

I'm sorry to hear that.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

she is my Congresswoman too

I'm sorry to hear that.

If you are really from TX I am sorry to hear that Cruz is your Senator too, he assisted with mounting an Insurrection on Jan 6th he is a tea partier

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/TheRevAl/status/1384104985684635652

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I find it difficult to believe that he will get off totally unless I am also to believe the jury will unanimously conclude Floyd would be dead today even if Chavin had not knelt on his neck for 9 minutes. I have not followed the case that closely, so I have no idea what medical experts the defense presented, but at its face, I think we're looking at manslaughter at a minimum.

FYI, hung juries are quite rare, and people seem to be overestimating that as the possible outcome.

[lfromnj]

By the way which idiot let this trial be televised?

Television cameras should be banned in all courtrooms, and the names of defendants should be kept anonymous until the trial has concluded.

I'd be fine with the recording provided said recording is only released after the trial is over.
It was incredibly stupid to make this a tv trial.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

As I said before, if you look at 16 minutes before the death, the officers were pleading with Floyd to get into car, how you are gonna suffocate in a police car and you are already driving an SUV, that's why it's a Manslaughter not a murder, and a decade imprisoned, but he probably gets 5 on appeal or Sentencing

[It’s so Joever]

By the way which idiot let this trial be televised?

Television cameras should be banned in all courtrooms, and the names of defendants should be kept anonymous until the trial has concluded.

I'd be fine with the recording provided said recording is only released after the trial is over.
It was incredibly stupid to make this a tv trial.

Honestly, could you imagine how much worse backlash there would be if the trial was kept hidden, especially if for some reason Chauvin does get acquitted/it ends in mistrial?

[Badger]

By the way which idiot let this trial be televised?

Television cameras should be banned in all courtrooms, and the names of defendants should be kept anonymous until the trial has concluded.

I'd be fine with the recording provided said recording is only released after the trial is over.
It was incredibly stupid to make this a tv trial.

Honestly, could you imagine how much worse backlash there would be if the trial was kept hidden, especially if for some reason Chauvin does get acquitted/it ends in mistrial?

No television cameras in the courtroom is hardly synonymous with a hidden trial

[lfromnj]

By the way which idiot let this trial be televised?

Television cameras should be banned in all courtrooms, and the names of defendants should be kept anonymous until the trial has concluded.

I'd be fine with the recording provided said recording is only released after the trial is over.
It was incredibly stupid to make this a tv trial.

Honestly, could you imagine how much worse backlash there would be if the trial was kept hidden, especially if for some reason Chauvin does get acquitted/it ends in mistrial?

No television cameras in the courtroom is hardly synonymous with a hidden trial

Yup release a transcript within a few hours if need be. Much less of a media circus.

[SnowLabrador]

I think he's going to get off.

[Roronoa D. Law]

By the way which idiot let this trial be televised?

Television cameras should be banned in all courtrooms, and the names of defendants should be kept anonymous until the trial has concluded.

I'd be fine with the recording provided said recording is only released after the trial is over.
It was incredibly stupid to make this a tv trial.

Honestly, could you imagine how much worse backlash there would be if the trial was kept hidden, especially if for some reason Chauvin does get acquitted/it ends in mistrial?

No television cameras in the courtroom is hardly synonymous with a hidden trial

Yup release a transcript within a few hours if need be. Much less of a media circus.

The Judge did the right thing. He knew many people across this country especially after last year crowd of protesters were invested in the case. Not giving people the opportunity to see trial will just create further mistrust which already surrounds multiple cases that involved law enforcement. Having a visual format will eliminate any doubt of wrongdoing that is currently surrounding the trial of Breonna Taylor.

[Crumpets]

Useful anonymized rundown of jurors and their backgrounds:

https://twitter.com/AJillSimons/status/1384251003231346700

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Isn't manslaughter the lowest charge?  If so, I think that's what he'll be convicted of.

[Horus]

I think he's going to get off.

Of course you do.

[DrScholl]

He's honestly safer in prison where he can be isolated than he is on the streets. No, I'm not advocating that anyone do harm to him, but this case has sparked a lot of anger and Chauvin could easily because the victim of vigilante justice if he is acquitted.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I will be glad when all these verdicts are over, they are all guilty of at least manslaughter which carries a decade imprisonment
.the Defense tried to humanize the officer by taking off his mask, he should of showed that when he neglected Floyd

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

He's honestly safer in prison where he can be isolated than he is on the streets. No, I'm not advocating that anyone do harm to him, but this case has sparked a lot of anger and Chauvin could easily because the victim of vigilante justice if he is acquitted.

Alaska, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, the Dakotas are all nice this time of year.

[emailking]

He's honestly safer in prison where he can be isolated than he is on the streets. No, I'm not advocating that anyone do harm to him, but this case has sparked a lot of anger and Chauvin could easily because the victim of vigilante justice if he is acquitted.

Everyone thought that was going to happen to Casey Anthony but it never did. It could happen, but probably not, especially if he moves.

[Not Me, Us]

He's honestly safer in prison where he can be isolated than he is on the streets. No, I'm not advocating that anyone do harm to him, but this case has sparked a lot of anger and Chauvin could easily because the victim of vigilante justice if he is acquitted.

Alaska, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, the Dakotas are all nice this time of year.

Those states aren't nice any time of the year.

[CookieDamage]

Verdict at 4:30 EST!! With a verdict this soon I bet he's guilty of 2nd degree murder