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« Reply #1175 on: September 02, 2021, 06:33:24 PM »

Really? Democrats are the ones who "fear-monger?" Especially about abortion? I can't wait for this guy to lose, ideally by more than Northam whooped Gillespie by (though I doubt it).
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« Reply #1176 on: September 03, 2021, 12:29:56 PM »

Well oiled Terry-train rolling out ads about abortion.

Flailing loser Trumpkin rolling out fear mongering ads with old white male cops nobody agrees with saying you wont be safe in Terry's Virginia.

Buuuut MT Treasurer and TarHeelGent said Terry's campaign sucks!!
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« Reply #1177 on: September 03, 2021, 12:32:24 PM »

Is he trying to lose?



He's run one of the dumbest campaigns I've ever seen in politics.  Basically re-running the Gillespie playbook in a poorer manner even though it was shown to be not at all effective.  Bringing a ton of his personal wealth to buy the election is literally the only thing he has going for him at this point.  I suppose if he spends a lot of it on turnout and turnout is relatively low he can keep his defeat to a not embarrassing level (maybe 6 points at best) but it's looking more and more like a double digit blowout. 
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« Reply #1178 on: September 03, 2021, 03:24:03 PM »

Is he trying to lose?



Does Trumpkin know that Virginia is an extremely pro-choice state? Why would he think this is a winning message, abortion rights are an extremely important issue to many Virginians.

It's not just that, also ranting about job creation and economic competence. Virginia was doing well under T-Mac the last time. And T-Mac is also a successful businessman, so he certainly knows something about job creation.
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« Reply #1179 on: September 03, 2021, 11:28:51 PM »

Is he trying to lose?



Does Trumpkin know that Virginia is an extremely pro-choice state? Why would he think this is a winning message, abortion rights are an extremely important issue to many Virginians.

This is not a message designed to appeal to hardcore Democratic partisans on an obscure election forum or single-issue pro-choice voters who favor zero restrictions on abortion whatsoever. If anyone sees the message he’s pushing and comes to the conclusion that it’s typical of a candidate who is "trying to lose," they have no idea what they’re talking about and are forcing their bias on us. The editorializing of the "news" in this thread is tiresome — believe it or not, not everything is actually good news for your party.
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« Reply #1180 on: September 03, 2021, 11:40:10 PM »

Is he trying to lose?



Does Trumpkin know that Virginia is an extremely pro-choice state? Why would he think this is a winning message, abortion rights are an extremely important issue to many Virginians.

This is not a message designed to appeal to hardcore Democratic partisans on an obscure election forum or single-issue pro-choice voters who favor zero restrictions on abortion whatsoever. If anyone sees the message he’s pushing and comes to the conclusion that it’s typical of a candidate who is "trying to lose," they have no idea what they’re talking about and are forcing their bias on us. The editorializing of the "news" in this thread is tiresome — believe it or not, not everything is actually good news for your party.
Youngkin is clearly trying to pivot away from abortion, towards things he is likelier to be seen as 'strong' in. Him saying his opponent is "fearmongering" on abortion is a dead giveaway of this.
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« Reply #1181 on: September 04, 2021, 12:06:01 AM »

Regardless of what Youngkin says or doesn't say, he will lose.
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« Reply #1182 on: September 04, 2021, 12:17:41 PM »

Is he trying to lose?



Does Trumpkin know that Virginia is an extremely pro-choice state? Why would he think this is a winning message, abortion rights are an extremely important issue to many Virginians.

This is not a message designed to appeal to hardcore Democratic partisans on an obscure election forum or single-issue pro-choice voters who favor zero restrictions on abortion whatsoever. If anyone sees the message he’s pushing and comes to the conclusion that it’s typical of a candidate who is "trying to lose," they have no idea what they’re talking about and are forcing their bias on us. The editorializing of the "news" in this thread is tiresome — believe it or not, not everything is actually good news for your party.

Politically Youngkin clearly should say he would veto the Texas law if it came across his desk. It is a free promise. He can dodge abortion entirely and say he dislikes private enforcement, then turn it around and make it about covid restrictions and mask mandates and trans sports. Yet he won't. He won't because he can't. And the reason why he can't is the reason why it is hard, perhaps even impossible for any Republican to win in Virginia today.

The real problem is the same one the Colorado GOP has. Unlike MA or VT there is still enough of a genuine Republican base in the state that it is impossible for anyone running as a Republican not to be Pro-Life, not in a "abortion should be generally illegal" way as they might have been able to do in the 1990s, but at most in a "abortion should only be for rape, incest, or life of the mother. I don't think birth control should be easily available". In effect, on a scale of 1 to 10, the GOP can no longer run statewide candidates who are any less than an 8. That is the problem in Virginia.

I doubt Youngkin personally is hardcore restrictionist on abortion(which I think is a better standard than pro-life. It is really, what are you in favor of doing about it?) But no GOP candidate for governor even in a Biden +10 state can afford to say they would veto the Texas law, which probably has 30% support in Virginia. But if he did, his base would revolt.
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« Reply #1183 on: September 04, 2021, 12:18:41 PM »

Is he trying to lose?



Does Trumpkin know that Virginia is an extremely pro-choice state? Why would he think this is a winning message, abortion rights are an extremely important issue to many Virginians.

This is not a message designed to appeal to hardcore Democratic partisans on an obscure election forum or single-issue pro-choice voters who favor zero restrictions on abortion whatsoever. If anyone sees the message he’s pushing and comes to the conclusion that it’s typical of a candidate who is "trying to lose," they have no idea what they’re talking about and are forcing their bias on us. The editorializing of the "news" in this thread is tiresome — believe it or not, not everything is actually good news for your party.

Politically Youngkin clearly should say he would veto the Texas law if it came across his desk. It is a free promise. He can dodge abortion entirely and say he dislikes private enforcement, then turn it around and make it about covid restrictions and mask mandates and trans sports. Yet he won't. He won't because he can't. And the reason why he can't is the reason why it is hard, perhaps even impossible for any Republican to win in Virginia today.

The real problem is the same one the Colorado GOP has. Unlike MA or VT there is still enough of a genuine Republican base in the state that it is impossible for anyone running as a Republican not to be Pro-Life, not in a "abortion should be generally illegal" way as they might have been able to do in the 1990s, but at most in a "abortion should only be for rape, incest, or life of the mother. I don't think birth control should be easily available". In effect, on a scale of 1 to 10, the GOP can no longer run statewide candidates who are any less than an 8. That is the problem in Virginia which is probably a 4/10.

I doubt Youngkin personally is hardcore restrictionist on abortion(which I think is a better standard than pro-life. It is really, what are you in favor of doing about it?) But no GOP candidate for governor even in a Biden +10 state can afford to say they would veto the Texas law, which probably has 30% support in Virginia. But if he did, his base would revolt.

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« Reply #1184 on: September 04, 2021, 08:02:08 PM »

The truth is that Youngkin could  win and this will be within 5 or 6 points either way maximum. This is the only major race the GOP has a shot at this year so expect them to fight hard for it.
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« Reply #1185 on: September 04, 2021, 11:02:06 PM »

Youngkin isn't winning and he has zero shot at winning. Just stop.
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« Reply #1186 on: September 06, 2021, 04:27:50 PM »

The truth is that Youngkin could  win and this will be within 5 or 6 points either way maximum. This is the only major race the GOP has a shot at this year so expect them to fight hard for it.
Larry Elder had a 50-50 shot and Jack Ciattarelli has a non-zero chance as well.
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« Reply #1187 on: September 06, 2021, 05:51:11 PM »

The truth is that Youngkin could  win and this will be within 5 or 6 points either way maximum. This is the only major race the GOP has a shot at this year so expect them to fight hard for it.
Larry Elder had a 50-50 shot and Jack Ciattarelli has a non-zero chance as well.

Emphasis on this word. That is not the case anymore.

And while I'll agree with you on Ciatarelli, technically, it's still barely 5% at best.
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« Reply #1188 on: September 07, 2021, 09:31:40 AM »


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« Reply #1189 on: September 07, 2021, 10:48:01 AM »


He’s being called a RINO now because of the ad. Something tells me his chances of victory have fallen, even if it’s a bit overdramatic.
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« Reply #1190 on: September 07, 2021, 09:16:40 PM »


He’s being called a RINO now because of the ad. Something tells me his chances of victory have fallen, even if it’s a bit overdramatic.

Fallen from .000001% to .0000000001%? 
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« Reply #1191 on: September 08, 2021, 05:53:21 PM »

Good ad from Youngkin. Will it help him much though?
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« Reply #1192 on: September 08, 2021, 06:50:31 PM »

Good ad from Youngkin. Will it help him much though?


empty promises from unlikable rich guy won't help the GOP win VA.
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« Reply #1193 on: September 09, 2021, 04:03:00 PM »


He’s being called a RINO now because of the ad. Something tells me his chances of victory have fallen, even if it’s a bit overdramatic.
That ad is completely unobjectionable, for anyone except white supremacists.
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« Reply #1194 on: September 09, 2021, 07:57:48 PM »

The fact that billionaires are wasting money on frivolous races for governor and flying into space is proof that we do need to increase taxes on the ultra rich.
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« Reply #1195 on: September 09, 2021, 08:50:45 PM »

The fact that billionaires are wasting money on frivolous races for governor and flying into space is proof that we do need to increase taxes on the ultra rich.

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« Reply #1196 on: September 09, 2021, 09:08:04 PM »

Interesting ad. Both sides are still fighting hard it seems.
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« Reply #1197 on: September 09, 2021, 09:26:48 PM »

D's aren't gonna lose a blue wall state until they do with VBM starting and Early Vote, TMac should be fine
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« Reply #1198 on: September 09, 2021, 10:07:23 PM »


He’s being called a RINO now because of the ad. Something tells me his chances of victory have fallen, even if it’s a bit overdramatic.

That ad is completely unobjectionable, for anyone except white supremacists.

It's a nice ad, but this really tells me nothing other than "Youngkin is anti-racism" and "Youngkin is against killing black people", which are both positive qualities, but what does Youngkin support in order to fix crime and protect communities in Virginia?
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« Reply #1199 on: September 10, 2021, 05:19:25 AM »

Monmouth poll had high rates of approval for vaccine mandates, mask mandates, masking in schools, etc., so.... not great for Youngkin.
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