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« Reply #850 on: February 17, 2022, 10:54:01 AM »

Tim Ryan is more likely to lose the primary than win the general.
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« Reply #851 on: February 17, 2022, 10:57:23 AM »
« Edited: February 17, 2022, 11:08:26 AM by SOCIALIST MR BAKARI SELLERS »

Tim Ryan is more likely to lose the primary than win the general.

Lol no he isn't gonna lose the primary not to Morgan Harper when Sherrod Brown endorsed him

He is from Youngstown just like Brown is from Akron Mahoney County

That QU was PURE JUNK 54 percent BLK and 36 percent of Latinos support Biden LOL NO, WE HAVE NV, AZ, CO, CA, NJ, IL AND NY AS LATINO STATES

30 PERCENT OF THE D VOTE IS Minority AND 20 PERCENT IS WHITE WE LOSE THE WHITE VOTE ONLY 44 Percent VOTE FOR DS BECAUSE 2/3 RDS OF POVERTY Rate ARE BLK AND Latino MEN
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« Reply #852 on: February 18, 2022, 12:38:21 PM »

Tim Ryan is more likely to lose the primary than win the general.

Lol no he isn't gonna lose the primary not to Morgan Harper when Sherrod Brown endorsed him

He is from Youngstown just like Brown is from Akron Mahoney County

That QU was PURE JUNK 54 percent BLK and 36 percent of Latinos support Biden LOL NO, WE HAVE NV, AZ, CO, CA, NJ, IL AND NY AS LATINO STATES

30 PERCENT OF THE D VOTE IS Minority AND 20 PERCENT IS WHITE WE LOSE THE WHITE VOTE ONLY 44 Percent VOTE FOR DS BECAUSE 2/3 RDS OF POVERTY Rate ARE BLK AND Latino MEN
Trump WON Mahoning County by 2 Points over Biden in 2020.

Ohio is permanently GONE for the Democrats in Statewide Races just like Iowa & Missouri.

80-90 % of the Democratic Votes comes from 4 Counties [Hamilton/Cincinnati; Cuyahoga/Cleveland; Franklin/Columbus and Lucas/Toledo) and that's not going to be enough to offset what Republican Candidates get in the Rual Parts of the State particularly among Non-College Working Class Voters.

The White-Working-Class will come out in DROVES in November to support the Republican Candidate given what they had to endure under Biden this past year.
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« Reply #853 on: February 18, 2022, 01:00:47 PM »

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« Reply #854 on: February 19, 2022, 07:05:02 AM »
« Edited: February 19, 2022, 07:09:41 AM by The Pieman »

I heavily, heavily suggest anyone interested in this race to read this in-depth thread about the OH Sen candidates on the GOP side. It provides a good look into what the candidates may attack each other on when the primary goes into full swing.


It only covers Timken and Gibbons so far (Vance and Mandel will be covered tomorrow). So far, it talks about how Gibbons has a similar anti-Trump history as Vance does (coupled with a history of pro-abortion and socially liberal comments) and the rest of the Republican Party doesn't like him. And it also talks about Timken's really sketchy and corrupt past that caused severe financial mismanagement of the Ohio GOP. Timken also has a history of working with a company that worked with China a lot (like McCormick) that she still has stock in.
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« Reply #855 on: February 19, 2022, 08:54:42 AM »

Timken has an uphill battle for a Trump endorsement because she’s a woman competing with men, but it’s possible if her allies get in Trump’s ear.
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« Reply #856 on: February 21, 2022, 10:28:36 PM »

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« Reply #857 on: February 21, 2022, 10:49:35 PM »

Ohio Democrats need to look themselves in the mirror to why they are about to lose to incendiary people like Josh Mandel and JD Vance in 2022 and possibly Jim Jordan in 2024.

If Democrats would focus on economics, ECONOMICS, maybe dump BBB and continued to press for a  minimum wage hike even if Sinema voted it down, they would have been in a better position.

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« Reply #858 on: February 21, 2022, 11:35:29 PM »

Ohio Democrats need to look themselves in the mirror to why they are about to lose to incendiary people like Josh Mandel and JD Vance in 2022 and possibly Jim Jordan in 2024.

If Democrats would focus on economics, ECONOMICS, maybe dump BBB and continued to press for a  minimum wage hike even if Sinema voted it down, they would have been in a better position

Lol there hasn't been one poll on OH, PA, WI and NC the last poll in OH was 38/38, NC Beasley down 42/40 WI tied 47*47 and Fetterman 44/42 over Oz

Vance is DOA he said Ukraine doesn't matter I am so glad we aren't gonna have Senator Vance


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« Reply #859 on: February 22, 2022, 08:39:02 AM »

Josh Mandel is one of the most unpleasant motherf--kers to ever run for office in this country. He is truly a spineless, dickless coward. I watched a few clips of that debate and it's frankly embarrassing how little he cares about policy as much as trying to hit every right wing buzzword. It's like he's playing bingo up there.

Frankly, the entire OH GOP should be ashamed of the candidates they're running and it sucks that they're still going to win the seat no matter who they nominate.
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« Reply #860 on: February 22, 2022, 12:42:55 PM »

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« Reply #861 on: February 22, 2022, 01:53:16 PM »
« Edited: February 22, 2022, 02:01:21 PM by SOCIALIST MR BAKARI SELLERS »

Josh Mandel is one of the most unpleasant motherf--kers to ever run for office in this country. He is truly a spineless, dickless coward. I watched a few clips of that debate and it's frankly embarrassing how little he cares about policy as much as trying to hit every right wing buzzword. It's like he's playing bingo up there.

Frankly, the entire OH GOP should be ashamed of the candidates they're running and it sucks that they're still going to win the seat no matter who they nominate.


Lol stop saying that do you know the last poll on. The race was 38/38 Ryan v Mandel there is no such thing in VBM a solidified race, it's VBM not same day voting we won 80 M votes we are the majority Rs as the minority isn't guarenteed 75 M we won OH in 2018 and it was same day voting 46/43

The same polls shows us winning WVA and in Gallup Trump was 43 and he overperformed on EDay before the Insurrectionists

There hasn't been one poll on this race or WI, PA or NC

Are the Rs favored yes but DeSantis was down six pts to Gillum withh mnth left and won the race


Ryan, Demings and Beasley aren't down by more than 5/7 pts and with 9 mnths left it's winnable in a VBM not same day voting election where we won 80 M not Rs


OH has 12 percent Blk that Sherrod Brown won and females and Muslims and Muslims have turned more liberal that's why Obama won it with Biden in 2008/12
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« Reply #862 on: February 22, 2022, 02:09:20 PM »

Ohio Democrats need to look themselves in the mirror to why they are about to lose to incendiary people like Josh Mandel and JD Vance in 2022 and possibly Jim Jordan in 2024.

If Democrats would focus on economics, ECONOMICS, maybe dump BBB and continued to press for a  minimum wage hike even if Sinema voted it down, they would have been in a better position.



This. So much this.
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« Reply #863 on: February 22, 2022, 02:23:43 PM »

Ohio Democrats need to look themselves in the mirror to why they are about to lose to incendiary people like Josh Mandel and JD Vance in 2022 and possibly Jim Jordan in 2024.

If Democrats would focus on economics, ECONOMICS, maybe dump BBB and continued to press for a  minimum wage hike even if Sinema voted it down, they would have been in a better position.



This. So much this.

It’s very unlikely Jordan is going to run for Senate in 2024. He’s a very powerful house member and isn’t going to give up all that power to become a Junior U.S. Senator. If he wanted to be a senator he would have gone for it this year.
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« Reply #864 on: February 22, 2022, 02:28:16 PM »

Ohio Democrats need to look themselves in the mirror to why they are about to lose to incendiary people like Josh Mandel and JD Vance in 2022 and possibly Jim Jordan in 2024.

If Democrats would focus on economics, ECONOMICS, maybe dump BBB and continued to press for a  minimum wage hike even if Sinema voted it down, they would have been in a better position.




I agree with a lot of this, but I can’t see Jordan running for Senate if 2024 if he passed over a run for this year.
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« Reply #865 on: February 22, 2022, 02:50:27 PM »

Ohio Democrats need to look themselves in the mirror to why they are about to lose to incendiary people like Josh Mandel and JD Vance in 2022 and possibly Jim Jordan in 2024.

If Democrats would focus on economics, ECONOMICS, maybe dump BBB and continued to press for a  minimum wage hike even if Sinema voted it down, they would have been in a better position.



This. So much this.

It’s very unlikely Jordan is going to run for Senate in 2024. He’s a very powerful house member and isn’t going to give up all that power to become a Junior U.S. Senator. If he wanted to be a senator he would have gone for it this year.



LoL Brown would be Favored over Jordan in a Prez turnout with wrestling and gay issues  like Speaker Hadswrt that's why he didn't run for Senate in 22, but we u think Whitmer, abd Shapiro are gonna lose in 22 and both of them are favored even in a Midterm it's VBM anything can happen and D's win. 80 M votes in 2020 not Rs we are the majority
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« Reply #866 on: February 22, 2022, 03:19:28 PM »

Given Timkens Endorsement Bonanza we need to have an Independent GOP Primary Poll really!
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« Reply #867 on: February 22, 2022, 03:21:10 PM »

Ohio Democrats need to look themselves in the mirror to why they are about to lose to incendiary people like Josh Mandel and JD Vance in 2022 and possibly Jim Jordan in 2024.

If Democrats would focus on economics, ECONOMICS, maybe dump BBB and continued to press for a  minimum wage hike even if Sinema voted it down, they would have been in a better position.




I agree with a lot of this, but I can’t see Jordan running for Senate if 2024 if he passed over a run for this year.
I think it's going to be OH SoS Frank LaRose who runs against Sherrod Brown or even John Husted. Either one would win.
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« Reply #868 on: February 22, 2022, 04:04:13 PM »
« Edited: February 22, 2022, 04:07:27 PM by SOCIALIST MR BAKARI SELLERS »

2016 doesn't make user prediction I do and every Election doesn't flow exactly around 303 wall if RS can make R Nut maps I can make a D Nut map we beat you RS 80/75 M I'm 2020 46/43 in 2018 and 65/62 M look it up on Election results you guys haven't won the NPVI since 2014 that's 8 yrs ago that's a very long time ago, and anything can happen it's VBM not same day and we got 80 M votes RS got less in 2020 that's why you guys Los
 

When I see a WI, PA, OH, NC poll I may adjust my map but Approvals lie Lol Trump kept the Senate in 2018 with 40/57 Approvals
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« Reply #869 on: February 22, 2022, 04:17:15 PM »

2016 doesn't make user prediction I do and every Election doesn't flow exactly around 303 wall if RS can make R Nut maps I can make a D Nut map we beat you RS 80/75 M I'm 2020 46/43 in 2018 and 65/62 M look it up on Election results you guys haven't won the NPVI since 2014 that's 8 yrs ago that's a very long time ago, and anything can happen it's VBM not same day and we got 80 M votes RS got less in 2020 that's why you guys Los
 

When I see a WI, PA, OH, NC poll I may adjust my map but Approvals lie Lol Trump kept the Senate in 2018 with 40/57 Approvals
You are a complete JOKE on this Board! What makes you believe the Democrats will win the the Independent or NPA Vote? They won't! Democrats are not going to win in a State Trump won by 8 Points in 2016 & 2020. Your Predictions are baloney and nonsense.

And if Jane Timken is the GOP Nominee the Seat is Lean R bordering Likely R.
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« Reply #870 on: February 22, 2022, 04:56:19 PM »

If the Ohio Republican Party eats each other up by now and May and there is still divisions, Tim Ryan better go on the offense and attack Republicans as fascists who want to give tax cuts to the rich and etc.

He should campaign in Southeast Ohio with Sen. Brown, try to win Meigs County.

He needs to rack up Brown 2006-Brown 2012-Brown 2018 numbers.



I disagree. No expert on OH politics but Southeast Ohio is somewhat sparsely populated and gone for the Democrats - too Trumpy. Ryan, if he wants any chance at a win, should focus largely on the suburbs and, most importantly, on his home base of Northeast Ohio - It's dense, and has a lot of his voters (WWC) as well as his home turf. If he can somehow move Northeast Ohio significantly leftwards and not do too badly in the suburbs, he might hypothetically somehow pull off a win (though he'd also need to have all the cards go his way and have the GOP nominee make many gaffes).
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« Reply #871 on: February 22, 2022, 04:58:29 PM »

Timken makes this Safe R since she is probably the least insane.

Some of the other candidates though.... surely Tim Ryan could have a snowball's chance against them. Likely R, although I suspect Ryan will do better than Biden unless the national mood really, really sours on the administration.
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« Reply #872 on: February 22, 2022, 05:44:12 PM »

Ohio Democrats need to look themselves in the mirror to why they are about to lose to incendiary people like Josh Mandel and JD Vance in 2022 and possibly Jim Jordan in 2024.

If Democrats would focus on economics, ECONOMICS, maybe dump BBB and continued to press for a  minimum wage hike even if Sinema voted it down, they would have been in a better position.



This. So much this.

It's shameful. Ohio Democrats in 2022 and 2024, if Brown is likely to lose, needs to go to the drawing board and see what they did right in 2006 and 2008.
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« Reply #873 on: February 22, 2022, 05:51:10 PM »

Timken makes this Safe R since she is probably the least insane.

Some of the other candidates though.... surely Tim Ryan could have a snowball's chance against them. Likely R, although I suspect Ryan will do better than Biden unless the national mood really, really sours on the administration.
The National Mood is already really, really souring. Bidens Job Approvals in States with competitive Senate & House Races is below 40 %. Heck, even in CA (LA Times Poll) or NY Times/Siena he is barely even.
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« Reply #874 on: February 22, 2022, 05:55:54 PM »

Timken makes this Safe R since she is probably the least insane.

Some of the other candidates though.... surely Tim Ryan could have a snowball's chance against them. Likely R, although I suspect Ryan will do better than Biden unless the national mood really, really sours on the administration.
The National Mood is already really, really souring. Bidens Job Approvals in States with competitive Senate & House Races is below 40 %. Heck, even in CA (LA Times Poll) or NY Times/Siena he is barely even.

The only question left to ask is can it get any worse lol
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