Biden infrastructure/tax increase megathread

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

D's aren't gonna lose the mandate the most likely scenario is a DS and an RH D's aren't losing the blue wall even in the worse case scenario because a dropoff from 80)75 M is likely to be 65/60 M the only way RS win the Senate if it's a 46/43 M I don't see that happening because Newsom got the same percentage of vote as Biden got in 2020

It's gonna be a 53)47 Senate D's netting WI and Pa and LA and GA goes to a Runoff, that's why so many H candidates ran for Gov or Senate but Ryan and DEMING'S in a 303 Environment are gonna lose


RS are so quick to jump on a QU poll  which badly overstated Biden margin that n 2020 showing Biden at 4o percent and Biden received a bump to 47 after State of Union and Marquette poll has Evers at 51 not 40


The only thing I agree with Landslide Lyndon on was University polls and QU is a University poll c'mon we only lost 2010 with 11 percent unemployment it's 4 percent, Biden isn't at 40 percent with Full employment

[GP270watch]

What a corrupt scumbag, piece of garbage Manchin is.

https://theintercept.com/2021/06/16/joe-manchin-leaked-billionaire-donors-no-labels/

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The best chance they had was 2021. Ukraine is going to dominate the headlines for the next few months so all attention will be on aiding them. Then the summer and fall is campaign season so a lot of Senators and Reps will be hitting the road making it difficult to organize everyone in DC. Making matters worse, Dems have very slim majorities so they need everyone there all at once. After the election they can try to pull off a lame-duck bill, but if they lose the midterms, then Democrats have lost their mandate to govern and I wouldn't expect that attempt to go far.

Democrats didn't let escalation of the Vietnam war stop from passing Medicare, Medicaid, and the VRA. Of course they weren't jokes like today's Democrats.

[Badger]

Going to say this. Whereas republicans wanted to kill this bill in its cradle based on general opposition to government spending that doesn't have to do with the pentagon and not wanting to hand Joe Biden a win, Maybe Joe Manchin  Was correct after all given the major problem with the economy today is inflation rather than unemployment and lack of economic growth, which passing BBB would have only exacerbated?

I say this as someone who took that man's name as a cuss word for the last year.

[emailking]

Well if Sinema would let us pay for it properly it probably wouldn't be so bad for inflation.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

We only have 9 mnths till the Election and wr will find out if Ds can overcome the Filibuster by getting 52 seats plus the H the Organization resolution is only till Jan 2nd 2023 get a grip, it's only sad news because users aren't optimistic about our wave insurance candidates, users continue to make R Nut maps and Biden Approvals continue to climb which is ONLY Atlas Forum


It's apparent that the only thing users look is Approvals on Pbower Approvals and he, Biden in all the polls are Even now in his Approval he isn't gonna be above 50 before EDay but the D's winning with wave insurance candidates is gonna bring the vote total over 50 percent

It was 33/33 M in 2010/14 with 12 percent unemployment a. Far cry from 80)75 M D's got in. 2020 abd it's predicted a 2012 turnout 65)60 it's a 393 map


All these users making R Nut map are gonnaa feel slighted when they can't update their maps once the prediction are close and D's win a 303 map that's why I don't make them, I didn't make them in 2010 because again you can't update your maps once Election results come in and D's win

.Crist is narrowly ahead in FL, why in 2014 hre lost to Scott an non Trump Gov, he is facing DeSantis a Trump candidate and D's are tied in MO and Ryan and Beasley are celebrity Candidate

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

The Democrats get another chance at reconciliation in September. Not that I would expect much.

I wouldn't expect one before the election, but could the chance of a bill passing in the lame duck be higher?

[It’s so Joever]

Going to say this. Whereas republicans wanted to kill this bill in its cradle based on general opposition to government spending that doesn't have to do with the pentagon and not wanting to hand Joe Biden a win, Maybe Joe Manchin  Was correct after all given the major problem with the economy today is inflation rather than unemployment and lack of economic growth, which passing BBB would have only exacerbated?

I say this as someone who took that man's name as a cuss word for the last year.

Although true, we simply don’t have time to wait for the inflation to ease because by then the GOP will be in control and it just makes us look weak.

[Person Man]

Going to say this. Whereas republicans wanted to kill this bill in its cradle based on general opposition to government spending that doesn't have to do with the pentagon and not wanting to hand Joe Biden a win, Maybe Joe Manchin  Was correct after all given the major problem with the economy today is inflation rather than unemployment and lack of economic growth, which passing BBB would have only exacerbated?

I say this as someone who took that man's name as a cuss word for the last year.

Although true, we simply don’t have time to wait for the inflation to ease because by then the GOP will be in control and it just makes us look weak.

if the GOP takes control, it didn't matter how they did. Besides, there is a 90% chance that we will get to try again with a better hand in 2032.

[Pericles]

Going to say this. Whereas republicans wanted to kill this bill in its cradle based on general opposition to government spending that doesn't have to do with the pentagon and not wanting to hand Joe Biden a win, Maybe Joe Manchin  Was correct after all given the major problem with the economy today is inflation rather than unemployment and lack of economic growth, which passing BBB would have only exacerbated?

I say this as someone who took that man's name as a cuss word for the last year.

Although true, we simply don’t have time to wait for the inflation to ease because by then the GOP will be in control and it just makes us look weak.

if the GOP takes control, it didn't matter how they did. Besides, there is a 90% chance that we will get to try again with a better hand in 2032.

Climate action can't wait, that has to be done this year.

[Frodo]

Manchin restarts talks with other Democrats on climate, social spending bill: report

[It’s so Joever]

Plot twist: Manchin stalled the talks because he wanted to do it right before the midterms to help Dems with the base and avoid the consequences of higher inflation in the elections. 1000 IQ Manchin.

[President Johnson]

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1507418046419419136

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-reportedly-propose-billionaire-minimum-035737740.html

Biden to propose a millionaire tax, Rs want the Congress so they can keep taxes on the Wealthy low, we all know what the Rs are up to

[Pres Mike]

Biden proposed a 5.8 trillion budget

I may be wrong. The 2019 budget was 4.4 trillion. 1.3 trillion was discretionary and 2.7 trillion was entitlements.




Does that mean he hopes to pass a 1.4 trillion reconciliation plan if Manchin agrees? Roughly

[politicallefty]

Joe Manchin knows that people haven't been talking about Joe Manchin much as of late.

I'll believe it when I see a bill being signed by the President.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Joe Manchin knows that people haven't been talking about Joe Manchin much as of late.

I'll believe it when I see a bill being signed by the President.

You do realize the Sinema Filibuster is gone next yr anyways regardless of what happens and both H and S can have an R or D or split Verdict as a result, the Election is so close we will defer everything other than aid to Ukraine to next Congress it's irrelevant

[Pericles]

Dems plan to move quickly, pass new bill before Memorial Day

A lot has to go right, but this isn't over yet. The IPCC support shows why the climate spending is so important, I'd personally make almost any compromise for it. I think the incentive for almost everyone is to get a deal-but some people are nutjobs honestly (Kyrsten Sinema).

[Person Man]

Dems plan to move quickly, pass new bill before Memorial Day

A lot has to go right, but this isn't over yet. The IPCC support shows why the climate spending is so important, I'd personally make almost any compromise for it. I think the incentive for almost everyone is to get a deal-but some people are nutjobs honestly (Kyrsten Sinema).

Making the rich pay to control inflation? What’s not to like?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The D agenda is deferred until 2023 and then we will know after Midterms for sure if D's have the TRIFECTA or not and 53 seats to abolish the Filibuster then D's can incorporate a tax hike

[Pericles]

Dems plan to move quickly, pass new bill before Memorial Day

A lot has to go right, but this isn't over yet. The IPCC support shows why the climate spending is so important, I'd personally make almost any compromise for it. I think the incentive for almost everyone is to get a deal-but some people are nutjobs honestly (Kyrsten Sinema).

Making the rich pay to control inflation? What’s not to like?

I doubt it would do much about inflation because the Trump tax cuts weren't that inflationary. Not that I'm an economist. In any case it's a good line to use.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I'm betting this new deal falls apart too. Whether that means Manchin torching it again, Sinema torching it, or Progressives torching it because it isn't big enough.

More than happy to wager something on this....

[Person Man]

Dems plan to move quickly, pass new bill before Memorial Day

A lot has to go right, but this isn't over yet. The IPCC support shows why the climate spending is so important, I'd personally make almost any compromise for it. I think the incentive for almost everyone is to get a deal-but some people are nutjobs honestly (Kyrsten Sinema).

Making the rich pay to control inflation? What’s not to like?

I doubt it would do much about inflation because the Trump tax cuts weren't that inflationary. Not that I'm an economist. In any case it's a good line to use.

I'm sure that between his tax cuts and trade wars, there was going to be inflation even without COVID unless his Commerce Department really was cooking the books.

[7,052,770]

I'm betting this new deal falls apart too. Whether that means Manchin torching it again, Sinema torching it, or Progressives torching it because it isn't big enough.

More than happy to wager something on this....

Maybe it's hit the party that their odds of holding both houses in November are pretty low, so they better get their hopes and dreams passed while they still can. That's me being optimistic, maybe foolishly so.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Dems plan to move quickly, pass new bill before Memorial Day

A lot has to go right, but this isn't over yet. The IPCC support shows why the climate spending is so important, I'd personally make almost any compromise for it. I think the incentive for almost everyone is to get a deal-but some people are nutjobs honestly (Kyrsten Sinema).

Making the rich pay to control inflation? What’s not to like?

I doubt it would do much about inflation because the Trump tax cuts weren't that inflationary. Not that I'm an economist. In any case it's a good line to use.

I'm sure that between his tax cuts and trade wars, there was going to be inflation even without COVID unless his Commerce Department really was cooking the books.

. inflation, COVID and high gas prices are a world wide problem not just a US that's why Biden didn't Eradicate Covid he contained it just like inflation it's a worldwide problem but England and Germany instead of raising taxes are cutting taxes to the bare bone it's all in Sky News

They give us Sky news now due to War of Ukraine instead of reruns of MSNBC shows

There is nothing that Biden can do about the Gas prices until the war is over