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« on: March 29, 2021, 10:46:39 AM »
« edited: August 13, 2022, 12:17:04 PM by The Dowager Mod »

Getting the ball rolling on this megathread because it’ll be necessary.




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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2021, 10:52:11 AM »

Really setting up an inverse of the Obama years here. Fabulous!
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2021, 10:54:31 AM »

Tax and spend, baby, tax and spend!
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2021, 11:10:53 AM »

God I’m sick of the winning
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2021, 11:22:15 AM »

Winning!
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2021, 11:25:11 AM »

Biden really is the anti-Sinema
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2021, 11:55:37 AM »

It's not that serious to me
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2021, 12:05:28 PM »

It’s kind of funny that some Republicans preferred Biden over Sanders for the Democratic nomination because they thought he would be less ‘left-wing’ or whatever. The reality, unsurprisingly, is that Joe Biden has been able to pass his agenda whereas Sanders wouldn’t have been able to do that (Had Sanders been the nominee, Democrats wouldn’t have had a prayer of winning the Senate*) This is where rational thinking comes in - they ought to have realized Biden is basically a Generic D who doesn’t actually have an ideology. This also goes for hilariously delusional progressives who thought Biden would be Clinton 2.0, but I don’t care for them so...

This, along with Joe Manchin still being a Senator, proves my thesis that ~80% of Republicans are not particularly smart people. Not sorry if that sounds condescending.

*I think Sanders would have had a decent shot at winning the presidency, but Perdue would almost certainly have cracked 50%.
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2021, 12:06:40 PM »

How do you say "Remontada" in english ?
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2021, 12:13:23 PM »

White Straight Old Men deliver Populist Reforms that will MAGA!  💪
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2021, 12:19:10 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2021, 12:53:55 PM »

Wow, they really are going big!
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2021, 12:54:57 PM »

White Straight Old Men deliver Populist Reforms that will MAGA!  💪

This but unironically. Take your sarcasm & go cry harder, Trumpist!
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2021, 12:58:23 PM »
« Edited: March 29, 2021, 01:01:49 PM by 215 till I die »

Both parties are going to add to our national debt. I'd rather it be done on investing in our future so we have some hope of decreasing our Debt/GDP ratio than more tax cuts that only lead to concentration of wealth. Way to be Joey.
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2021, 12:59:29 PM »


Should have gone a LOT further with it, then when the GOP bitches and moans they can scale it back and say, look at this, why do you hate America.
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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2021, 02:01:16 PM »

Both parties are going to add to our national debt. I'd rather it be done on investing in our future so we have some hope of decreasing our Debt/GDP ratio than more tax cuts that only lead to concentration of wealth. Way to be Joey.

Doing nothing is far more expensive in the long run. It was true with targeted Covid relief package and is true on infrastructure as well. Unfortunately, the infrastructure in the US is not in a healthy condition and in urgent need for repair, renewal and expansion. Bridges and airports are crumbling, highspeed internet is missing all over the place and the train system is a joke. The government should go in with a bold plan that not just improves the infrastructure itsself, but also creates millions of jobs and invests in renewable energy.

Unlike the Republicans, who passed massive tax cuts for wealthy people and big business, the Democrats actually pay for their expenditures by raising taxes on those who can actually afford it. I'd personally favor even a larger hike for upper incomes and big corporations as well as cutting military spending. But this Biden initiative is a huge step forward if passed that would do so much good on many fronts. Hopefully they can get this done without writing large parts of the bill off. It's too important.
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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2021, 02:06:48 PM »

White Straight Old Men deliver Populist Reforms that will MAGA!  💪

This but unironically. Take your sarcasm & go cry harder, Trumpist!

Eh? I was deadly serious. I've always been for Trump's Populist Deal, and criticized Pelosi for killing Trump Populist Deal 2.0. Why wouldn't I like Biden's? The same with Afghanistan - if Biden really make it, I'll be first to applaud.
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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2021, 02:46:14 PM »

This is an amazing presidency so far.
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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2021, 06:23:39 PM »

White Straight Old Men deliver Populist Reforms that will MAGA!  💪

This but unironically. Take your sarcasm & go cry harder, Trumpist!

Eh? I was deadly serious. I've always been for Trump's Populist Deal, and criticized Pelosi for killing Trump Populist Deal 2.0. Why wouldn't I like Biden's? The same with Afghanistan - if Biden really make it, I'll be first to applaud.

Because seemingly nothing in the 2,250 posts you authored prior to this reply would indicate as much.
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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2021, 06:26:05 PM »

Both parties are going to add to our national debt. I'd rather it be done on investing in our future so we have some hope of decreasing our Debt/GDP ratio than more tax cuts that only lead to concentration of wealth. Way to be Joey.

Doing nothing is far more expensive in the long run. It was true with targeted Covid relief package and is true on infrastructure as well. Unfortunately, the infrastructure in the US is not in a healthy condition and in urgent need for repair, renewal and expansion. Bridges and airports are crumbling, highspeed internet is missing all over the place and the train system is a joke. The government should go in with a bold plan that not just improves the infrastructure itsself, but also creates millions of jobs and invests in renewable energy.

Unlike the Republicans, who passed massive tax cuts for wealthy people and big business, the Democrats actually pay for their expenditures by raising taxes on those who can actually afford it. I'd personally favor even a larger hike for upper incomes and big corporations as well as cutting military spending. But this Biden initiative is a huge step forward if passed that would do so much good on many fronts. Hopefully they can get this done without writing large parts of the bill off. It's too important.

You're speaking facts. Anecdotally, my hometown is completely unsuited to handle the population boom that has occurred in the past 30 years. The lack of stop signs or traffic lights on intersections where there is a heavy amount of tree cover have led to numerous accidents. The winding 2-lane backroads are completely unequipped for the influx of traffic. In just the past decade they've had to open two new schools to handle all of the kids. The regional rail network (SEPTA)'s fleet is antiquated. We need sustained investment to ensure that our residents can flourish while also conserving our natural habitats. Indeed, just last year there was an issue with the construction of a natural gas pipeline opening sinkholes near a local treasure.
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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2021, 07:07:12 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2021, 07:17:49 PM »



If Robert Reich approves, I am on board.
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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2021, 07:29:03 PM »

Quote
President Joe Biden will not call for a wealth tax to help pay for his multitrillion-dollar Build Back Better initiative, according to multiple people familiar with the White House’s thinking. In doing so, he will sidestep a proposal that progressive Democrats, led by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), say would raise trillions of dollars in revenue and narrow income inequality.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/03/30/biden-elizabeth-warren-wealth-tax-478642?__twitter_impression=true
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2021, 07:29:54 PM »

Duh
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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2021, 07:31:02 PM »

It's not like Congress could have been a yes anyway. And wealth taxes don't seem to have been very successful, maybe using the existing taxes better is the way to go.
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