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« Reply #6800 on: October 23, 2023, 08:31:51 AM »

Reminding me a little bit of NJ 2013, when Christie was very popular and Obama wasn't really, but it had basically no effect whatsoever on the legislative races despite a genuine effort by the Republicans.

Not exactly, the old maps were a strong gerrymander by Obama #s and local incumbency matters a lot. Rs did manage to win the PV by 5 though.
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« Reply #6801 on: October 23, 2023, 08:42:23 AM »

Reminding me a little bit of NJ 2013, when Christie was very popular and Obama wasn't really, but it had basically no effect whatsoever on the legislative races despite a genuine effort by the Republicans.

Not exactly, the old maps were a strong gerrymander by Obama #s and local incumbency matters a lot. Rs did manage to win the PV by 5 though.

Aren’t the new maps basically the same partisanship wise outside of LD-04?
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« Reply #6802 on: October 23, 2023, 09:29:27 AM »

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« Reply #6803 on: October 23, 2023, 09:47:45 AM »



Holding steady with two weeks left, I guess.
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« Reply #6804 on: October 23, 2023, 09:51:13 AM »

Reminding me a little bit of NJ 2013, when Christie was very popular and Obama wasn't really, but it had basically no effect whatsoever on the legislative races despite a genuine effort by the Republicans.

Not exactly, the old maps were a strong gerrymander by Obama #s and local incumbency matters a lot. Rs did manage to win the PV by 5 though.

Aren’t the new maps basically the same partisanship wise outside of LD-04?

In 2013 the tipping point was 14.8 points to the right of the state. It should be about even now. The GOP coalition seems to be more electorally efficient on the Senate level since they no longer win the outer suburban seats by 40 points. The 2013 vote could've shifted 20 points left without any seat changes.
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« Reply #6805 on: October 23, 2023, 12:29:11 PM »

New co/efficient (R) poll shows a tied race.

Funny enough, it has an R+3 electorate advantage, but still only tied, because Dems winning Indies by 10%, 55-45.

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« Reply #6806 on: October 23, 2023, 12:36:25 PM »

Similar to some of the national polls for 2024 showing the GOP winning ~20% of the black vote and splitting young voters evenly. I guess we’ll see.
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« Reply #6807 on: October 23, 2023, 12:38:43 PM »

Similar to some of the national polls for 2024 showing the GOP winning ~20% of the black vote and splitting young voters evenly. I guess we’ll see.

I’m really just interested in seeing if there’s a general pro-R and pro-D pattern emerging in these races. Consistent overperformances by one side will tell us more about 2024 than a single gubernatorial or state legislative contest.
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« Reply #6808 on: October 23, 2023, 05:40:18 PM »

New co/efficient (R) poll shows a tied race.

Funny enough, it has an R+3 electorate advantage, but still only tied, because Dems winning Indies by 10%, 55-45.



It's not a tied environment if Dems are winning Indys by 10 points.

Anyways, I'm starting to feel pretty good about our chances here.
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« Reply #6809 on: October 23, 2023, 06:49:57 PM »

Similar to some of the national polls for 2024 showing the GOP winning ~20% of the black vote and splitting young voters evenly. I guess we’ll see.

To be fair, co/efficient in particular was notorious about this last year too. They regularly had Oz winning 20-25% of the black vote and outright winning Hispanics/Other in PA.
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« Reply #6810 on: October 23, 2023, 08:16:24 PM »

Similar to some of the national polls for 2024 showing the GOP winning ~20% of the black vote and splitting young voters evenly. I guess we’ll see.

To be fair, co/efficient in particular was notorious about this last year too. They regularly had Oz winning 20-25% of the black vote and outright winning Hispanics/Other in PA.

To add on to this, Fetterman ended up winning AAs 91-8% and Hispanics 68-30%. So, moral of the story: don't put too much stock into cross tabs
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« Reply #6811 on: October 24, 2023, 12:53:09 AM »

Feels a bit over the top and maybe counterproductive for Republicans. Also maybe some desperation?

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« Reply #6812 on: October 24, 2023, 06:48:07 AM »

Feels a bit over the top and maybe counterproductive for Republicans. Also maybe some desperation?



Gross.
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« Reply #6813 on: October 24, 2023, 06:50:40 AM »

R share of in-person EV is clearly up compared to post-COVID history.  Question is whether this is new people or people who would have voted day-of in 2021?
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« Reply #6814 on: October 24, 2023, 06:53:19 AM »

R share of in-person EV is clearly up compared to post-COVID history.  Question is whether this is new people or people who would have voted day-of in 2021?

Probably a combination of both? Youngkin and the state party have been pushing early voting hard.
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« Reply #6815 on: October 24, 2023, 07:02:06 AM »

The cope is getting more laughable by the minute. Owen is basically guaranteed to win at this point
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« Reply #6816 on: October 24, 2023, 07:06:50 AM »

Feels a bit over the top and maybe counterproductive for Republicans. Also maybe some desperation?



Gross.
Yes.
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« Reply #6817 on: October 24, 2023, 07:55:40 AM »

Well, the thing is, if the GOP felt good about this seat, why would they be resorting to tactics like those?

Secondly, it's wholy ironic given that the GOP is always playing their fiddle of sexuality and kids "being exposed to it" and then they do... that? Which is literally sending porn to homes?
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« Reply #6818 on: October 24, 2023, 08:10:49 AM »

Now Youngkin is wading in? This feels like a really bad unforced error in the closing moments of this campaign

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« Reply #6819 on: October 24, 2023, 10:32:43 AM »

R share of in-person EV is clearly up compared to post-COVID history.  Question is whether this is new people or people who would have voted day-of in 2021?
The overall electorate will be R+, but according to Chaz Nuttycombe the swing district electorate will be D+.
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« Reply #6820 on: October 24, 2023, 10:37:00 AM »

Now Youngkin is wading in? This feels like a really bad unforced error in the closing moments of this campaign



this is definitely something i could see backfiring.
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« Reply #6821 on: October 24, 2023, 10:54:20 AM »

R share of in-person EV is clearly up compared to post-COVID history.  Question is whether this is new people or people who would have voted day-of in 2021?
The overall electorate will be R+, but according to Chaz Nuttycombe the swing district electorate will be D+.

The electorate was D+2 in 2021, I can't imagine it would be R this year.
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« Reply #6822 on: October 24, 2023, 10:56:30 AM »

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« Reply #6823 on: October 24, 2023, 10:57:28 AM »

R share of in-person EV is clearly up compared to post-COVID history.  Question is whether this is new people or people who would have voted day-of in 2021?
The overall electorate will be R+, but according to Chaz Nuttycombe the swing district electorate will be D+.

The electorate was D+2 in 2021, I can't imagine it would be R this year.
I think it will be R given that Ds aren’t turning in inner NoVa, but it doesn’t give Rs a trifecta since Democrats are turning out in swing seats.
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« Reply #6824 on: October 24, 2023, 10:59:06 AM »

R share of in-person EV is clearly up compared to post-COVID history.  Question is whether this is new people or people who would have voted day-of in 2021?
The overall electorate will be R+, but according to Chaz Nuttycombe the swing district electorate will be D+.

The electorate was D+2 in 2021, I can't imagine it would be R this year.
I think it will be R given that Ds aren’t turning in inner NoVa, but it doesn’t give Rs a trifecta since Democrats are turning out in swing seats.

Nova turnout is still up in the air though; we don't know if by the end, it truly will just be bad turnout, or these voters are waiting for more EV centers/election day to vote.
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