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« Reply #10900 on: November 05, 2020, 03:50:35 PM »

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« Reply #10901 on: November 05, 2020, 03:51:00 PM »

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« Reply #10902 on: November 05, 2020, 03:51:22 PM »

Sec Def Mark Esper planning to resign because he was about to pushed out, per MSNBC.
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« Reply #10903 on: November 05, 2020, 03:51:39 PM »

Judas Van Drew winning is probably the single most disappointing/infuriating result of the entire election. Against a Kennedy, too. MillennialModerate will REALLY be in shambles if that happens AND Georgia goes for Joe though.

Why do you believe Van Drew won his race?  He's up 4 points with only 75% of the vote counted, and we already know how VBMs shift the race.

Jersey was mostly VBM this year, with in-person ballots being considered provisional and not being counted until next week, so they're actually more likely to have a red shift.
Jersey sees a red shift? then Biden and Booker will likely drop below 60% in that case and Van Drew might pull it out
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« Reply #10904 on: November 05, 2020, 03:51:48 PM »

Sec Def Mark Esper planning to resign because he was about to pushed out, per MSNBC.

It begins.
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« Reply #10905 on: November 05, 2020, 03:52:13 PM »

Coconin is fairly blue right?
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« Reply #10906 on: November 05, 2020, 03:52:19 PM »

It's absurd to blame "socialism" for Biden's (and the Democrats') failures among Latinos.  If Latinos were uniquely averse to "socialism", they wouldn't have overwhelmingly voted for Bernie in the primary.

The reason Biden failed among Latinos is that he made almost no effort to appeal to Latinos in either his presentation or policy focus.  Choosing Harris as a running mate was a huge mistake in this sense.  Say what you will about Tim Kaine's other weaknesses, but at least he spoke fluent Spanish and would frequent give speeches on the campaign trail in Spanish.

Moreover, this biggest moral crimes committed by the Trump administration throughout the term were on immigration.  Yet Biden almost entirely ignored this issue in favor of a focus on covid and BLM issues.  How can the communities most personally affected by Trump's immigration atrocities fail to notice this?

It's all about the trade. In that sense, sure maybe. But Harris also seemed to help turbocharge turnout in the cities and with black voters.

Biden already was the candidate of choice for black voters. He's the one who turbocharged black turnout, not Harris.  If they wanted Harris, they would have supported Harris in this primary.  According to polls, Harris has lower favorability among black voters than Biden himself.
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« Reply #10907 on: November 05, 2020, 03:53:03 PM »

Judas Van Drew winning is probably the single most disappointing/infuriating result of the entire election. Against a Kennedy, too. MillennialModerate will REALLY be in shambles if that happens AND Georgia goes for Joe though.

Why do you believe Van Drew won his race?  He's up 4 points with only 75% of the vote counted, and we already know how VBMs shift the race.

Hmm, maybe she can still win. I heard otherwise, hopefully I just jumped the gun.
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« Reply #10908 on: November 05, 2020, 03:53:26 PM »

MA is a biden landslide as expected but Falls River MA swung like 10 points right, ethnic white Democrats continue their slide to the GOP.(Portuguese in this case)
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« Reply #10909 on: November 05, 2020, 03:53:42 PM »

Sec Def Mark Esper planning to resign because he was about to pushed out, per MSNBC.

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« Reply #10910 on: November 05, 2020, 03:53:51 PM »


Actually House Majority Pac, sorry lol, hard to tell these apart. But yes. Gotta love that consultant culture!

I wouldn't trust that guy to manage a school board campaign.
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« Reply #10911 on: November 05, 2020, 03:54:07 PM »


Considerably so, hasn't gone R since 1988.
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« Reply #10912 on: November 05, 2020, 03:54:40 PM »

It's absurd to blame "socialism" for Biden's (and the Democrats') failures among Latinos.  If Latinos were uniquely averse to "socialism", they wouldn't have overwhelmingly voted for Bernie in the primary.

The reason Biden failed among Latinos is that he made almost no effort to appeal to Latinos in either his presentation or policy focus.  Choosing Harris as a running mate was a huge mistake in this sense.  Say what you will about Tim Kaine's other weaknesses, but at least he spoke fluent Spanish and would frequent give speeches on the campaign trail in Spanish.

Moreover, this biggest moral crimes committed by the Trump administration throughout the term were on immigration.  Yet Biden almost entirely ignored this issue in favor of a focus on covid and BLM issues.  How can the communities most personally affected by Trump's immigration atrocities fail to notice this?

It's all about the trade. In that sense, sure maybe. But Harris also seemed to help turbocharge turnout in the cities and with black voters.

Biden already was the candidate of choice for black voters. He's the one who turbocharged black turnout, not Harris.  If they wanted Harris, they would have supported Harris in this primary.  According to polls, Harris has lower favorability among black voters than Biden himself.
But he doesn’t tick any demographic boxes! How am I supposed to get warm sticky feelings about voting if I’m not ‘breaking down a barrier’ with mindless representationalism.
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« Reply #10913 on: November 05, 2020, 03:54:44 PM »

Ugh, all this whining from Spanberger. Why are so many people in the Democratic caucus so lame?
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« Reply #10914 on: November 05, 2020, 03:54:55 PM »

it's in the neighborhood of 60% Dem or so.
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« Reply #10915 on: November 05, 2020, 03:55:00 PM »

Las Vegas is saving this country
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« Reply #10916 on: November 05, 2020, 03:55:09 PM »

2024 pls!!!!

he sounds like a sore loser. Anyway does anyone think Hawley can reach trump's appeal? or is trump a unique character in reaching out to the working class voters. Im not sure if other republicans can replicate trump's success but im not sure

Yeah. Hawley might do well in a Republican primary, but a certain amount of Trump's success did come from the fact that he was already a household name, and that name was synonymous (whether rightfully or not) with opulence, glamor, and fame.
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« Reply #10917 on: November 05, 2020, 03:55:14 PM »

Ugh, all this whining from Spanberger. Why are so many people in the Democratic caucus so lame?

She's not wrong.
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« Reply #10918 on: November 05, 2020, 03:55:19 PM »

It's absurd to blame "socialism" for Biden's (and the Democrats') failures among Latinos.  If Latinos were uniquely averse to "socialism", they wouldn't have overwhelmingly voted for Bernie in the primary.

The reason Biden failed among Latinos is that he made almost no effort to appeal to Latinos in either his presentation or policy focus.  Choosing Harris as a running mate was a huge mistake in this sense.  Say what you will about Tim Kaine's other weaknesses, but at least he spoke fluent Spanish and would frequent give speeches on the campaign trail in Spanish.

Moreover, this biggest moral crimes committed by the Trump administration throughout the term were on immigration.  Yet Biden almost entirely ignored this issue in favor of a focus on covid and BLM issues.  How can the communities most personally affected by Trump's immigration atrocities fail to notice this?

It's all about the trade. In that sense, sure maybe. But Harris also seemed to help turbocharge turnout in the cities and with black voters.

Biden already was the candidate of choice for black voters. He's the one who turbocharged black turnout, not Harris.  If they wanted Harris, they would have supported Harris in this primary.  According to polls, Harris has lower favorability among black voters than Biden himself.

You don't really have anything to back that up.

What there IS proof of though is that Harris was the most popular candidate among all 4 per exits. So it's more likely that she helped turnout voters that seemed to like her.

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« Reply #10919 on: November 05, 2020, 03:55:28 PM »

Judas Van Drew winning is probably the single most disappointing/infuriating result of the entire election. Against a Kennedy, too. MillennialModerate will REALLY be in shambles if that happens AND Georgia goes for Joe though.

Why do you believe Van Drew won his race?  He's up 4 points with only 75% of the vote counted, and we already know how VBMs shift the race.

Jersey was mostly VBM this year, with in-person ballots being considered provisional and not being counted until next week, so they're actually more likely to have a red shift.

Hmmm, you might be right; looking over the other NJ House results, they don't appear particularly R-friendly.  Ugh.
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« Reply #10920 on: November 05, 2020, 03:55:47 PM »

I mean I’m glad Spanberger hung on but girl like.... complaining about a BLM attack ad against you and blaming leadership? It’s called a campaign. Learn to run one better next time so you can fight off these attacks.

She's right though.

"Defund the police" sounds really bad.
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« Reply #10921 on: November 05, 2020, 03:55:51 PM »

In addition to the success of "Biden will turn America into Cuba" message, did you notice how immigration wasn't an issue at all in this  election? Did you notice how Trump never mentioned the wall, MS-13 or Mexican rapists in his speeches, after having made them the cornerstone of his first campaign?

Trump 2016 was  "Build that wall". Trump 2020 was "Stop socialism". There you have the reason why Latinos (and not only Cubans in Miami-Dade) swung so heavily towards him.
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« Reply #10922 on: November 05, 2020, 03:55:54 PM »

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« Reply #10923 on: November 05, 2020, 03:56:46 PM »

As I said before, if Mitch has any backbone, he should tell Trump it's over once Biden has officially reached 270. And, if necessary, urge Pence to invoke the 25th. Trump is having a complete meltdown.
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« Reply #10924 on: November 05, 2020, 03:56:52 PM »

This whole thread is just incredible...



DMP was in tears during the call.



How about they take responsibility for themselves? They should have run better races, it's not leadership's fault that they suck.

it's absolutely the left's fault. There's nothing the moderates can do if they're forced to having to keep reiterating that they don't want to defund the police.
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