2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[Battista Minola 1616]

2020 US Presidential Election County Map

Biden won Inyo county and lost Monongalia and Oklahoma counties.

Biden also lost the counties of Jefferson, Kleberg and Nueces in Texas, won Haywood County in Tennessee, lost Beltrami County in Minnesota... there are many, many errors on that map.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

2020 US Presidential Election County Map

Where in the world did you get the information to put this map together? There are a ton of mistakes.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

There was a gratifying snapback in Upstate New York and Upper New England, but not that much of a snapback. Biden fell just short in several counties in the Hudson/Champlain part of New York as well as in northern New Hampshire and Maine that this map has him winning. On top of, you know, everything else the matter with this map.

[Crumpets]

Shush, these are the real results without all the illegal Trump votes. 

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Re: El Paso County/Colorado Springs

This is one of the most rapidly growing areas of the state, in part because it's cheaper than Denver/northern suburbs. Lots of people who would be moving to Denver area are moving down here instead for commuting (!), telework, or general recreation activity. A lot of the factors that keep the area red are still present (evangelical presence, military, diploma divide) but it's swinging the same way as the rest of the state's major metros for the same reasons.

[Tender Branson]

Wolf Blitzer / CNN also confirm that all 50 states & DC have certified:

https://twitter.com/wolfblitzer/status/1336760093313032192

Just waiting on all certificates to be received by the National Archives ...

Currently, it’s 32/51.

[iceman]

Amazing to see there is a continuous corridor of democratic areas from Topeka to Kansas City. It could have been connected all the way to Riley county.

[jimrtex]

I can't believe I have to explain this to someone who's as manifestly capable of being measured and reasonable when he wants to be as jimrtex, but being intimidated by armed demonstrators showing up at your house after dark is categorically not the same as being spoken against by old ladies at a public meeting or having Lawrence Lessig offer to litigate against you.

The meeting of the electors is for them.

Linda McCulloch is both an idiot and a political hack. She thinks because she was once a school teacher that she has special powers and intuition.

If she had followed a precedent where the meeting of the electors in Montana was a meeting where there was a public speaking opportunity it would be one thing (If she had announced this before the meeting there would have been 100s of Montanans show up).

You don't imaging that one could get 100's of Delaware or Vermont citizens to show up to ask about Joe Biden's involvement in Ukraine, or Hunter Biden and Joe Biden (aka Pop), or Biden's role at the January 5, 2017 meeting about Michael Flynn.

It wasn't like the little old ladies had just shown up to observe the meeting of the three electors. "I didn't know I would be able to speak, it has never been done for the last 12 presidential elections, so I didn't have a speech prepared.

Montana's 3 electors vote for Trump; 2 were alternates

Susan Reneau, who came over from Missoula, said she was proud to stand in support of Trump. She started to say that President Barack Obama had been an “abomination to our military and everything economic in our entire country” before McCulloch reminded her to keep her comments positive.

Lee Malcheski, of Helena, asked the three to hold off on voting until an investigation into Russian interference in the election was made public.

[jimrtex]

I have alphabetized the states. Newly received states are in red. I had previously listed Ken Blackwell, but had credited him to Michigan rather than Ohio (sorry Badger). I also remembered a name in Minnesota.

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Arkansas: Ed Bethune(R)

California: Pete McCloskey (D), Janine Bera(D), Shirley Weber(D)

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate).

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Idaho: Rod Beck (R), Raul Labrador (R)

Indiana: James Buck (R), state senator.

Kentucky: Colmon Elridge (D-candidate) State Party chair.

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Maine: Peter LaVerdiere (R), age 79, and Jay Philbrick(D), age 18, are Maine's two congressional district electors.

Massachusetts: Nicole LaChapelle (D), mayor of Easthampton.

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

Minnesota: Muhammad Abdurrabman, who was an attempted faithless elector in 2016.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Nevada: Judith Whitmer (D), Clark County party official - notable in dispute over removal of pro-Palestine planks from county party platform. Yvanna Cancela (D), state senator and co-speaker DNC keynote infomercial

New Jersey: Tammy Murphy (D).

New York: Bill Clinton (D), Hillary Clinton (D), Andrew Cuomo (D), Kathy Hochul (D), Thomas DiNapoli (D), Letitia James (D), Jay Jacobs (D), Carl Heastie (D), Christine Quinn (D), Rhonda Weingarten (D)

North Carolina: Anthony Foxx (D-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

Ohio: Ken Blackwell (R).

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Rhode Island: Joe Paolino (D), former mayor of Providence (1984-1991), also lost gubernatorial primary to Bruce Sundlun, congressional primary to Robert Weygand, mayoral primary to David Cicilline.

South Dakota: Kristi Noem (R), Larry Rhoden (R), Jason Ravnsborg (R)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R), former Texas state party chair.

Texas: Gene Seaman(R), Ken Mercer(R), Briscoe Cain(R), Nick Lampson(D-candidate), Terri Hodge(D-candidate), Katija Gruene(G-candidate)

Vermont: Kesha Ram (D), state senator-elect, and daughter of a Jewish mother and Hindu father who ran an Irish pub in Santa Monica. Her aunt is a Tory life peer.

Washington: Sophia Danenberg (D), works for Boeing and whose favorite app is Excel, and incidentally is first Black woman to summit Mount Everest.

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

District of Columbia: ??


Other highlights:

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!" Andrew Cuomo didn''t either but the New York certificate did have his name bolded. The New York certificate is the only one where the signature line does not identify the signer.

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's)

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida. Five of these were designated in Indiana. Since Indiana noted the town of elector candidates, it specifically notes that these electors were from New Jersey, New Jersey, Florida, Connecticut, and New York.

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

Kamei Harris was a Trump-Pence elector in New Jersey. She is a black woman. If she voted, Kam... Harris would vote against Kam... Harris.

Vermont had Grumpy Old Patriots, Boiling Frog, Bull Moose, and Bread and Roses candidates.

In Ohio two candidates had fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

In Florida, Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Really odd that Biden improved in St. Louis city.

[Holmes]

Re: El Paso County/Colorado Springs

This is one of the most rapidly growing areas of the state, in part because it's cheaper than Denver/northern suburbs. Lots of people who would be moving to Denver area are moving down here instead for commuting (!), telework, or general recreation activity. A lot of the factors that keep the area red are still present (evangelical presence, military, diploma divide) but it's swinging the same way as the rest of the state's major metros for the same reasons.

Yeah my uncle in law lives in Colorado Springs and his wife commutes to Denver, although they’ve been living there for I think 15 years now. I think it’s a an hour commute? That’s not the worst, coming from someone in California.

[Calthrina950]

Re: El Paso County/Colorado Springs

This is one of the most rapidly growing areas of the state, in part because it's cheaper than Denver/northern suburbs. Lots of people who would be moving to Denver area are moving down here instead for commuting (!), telework, or general recreation activity. A lot of the factors that keep the area red are still present (evangelical presence, military, diploma divide) but it's swinging the same way as the rest of the state's major metros for the same reasons.

As a lifelong resident of Colorado Springs, I can testify to the truth of all you say here.

[Tender Branson]

Big increase in certificates received by the National Archives.

41/51 certificates have been received (+9 vs. yesterday).

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020

Missing are:

CO, CT, IA, KS, MD, MS, MO, NH, NM and UT.

[Tender Branson]

Electoral Vote tracker, based on official/certified states + DC

51/51:

306 Biden
232 Trump

November 5th
Delaware

November 6th
New Hampshire

November 10th
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Vermont

November 11th
South Carolina
Wyoming

November 12th
North Dakota

November 17th
Florida

November 18th
Idaho
Mississippi
Virginia

November 19th
Louisiana
Massachusetts

November 20th
Georgia
Kentucky

November 23rd
Alabama
Maine (3 EV Biden, 1 EV Trump)
Michigan
Utah

November 24th
Arkansas
Indiana
Minnesota
Nevada
New Mexico
North Carolina
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Texas

November 25th
Connecticut

November 30th
Alaska
Arizona
Iowa
Montana
Nebraska (4 EV Trump, 1 EV Biden)
Rhode Island
Wisconsin

December 1st
Kansas
Washington
West Virginia

December 2nd
District of Columbia
Tennessee

December 3rd
New York
Oregon

December 4th
California
Illinois
Maryland

December 7th
New Jersey

December 8th
Colorado
Hawaii
Missouri

December 14th
Electoral College votes

Results:

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html
https://cookpolitical.com/2020-national-popular-vote-tracker?

States that have already sent their Certificates of Ascertainment to the National Archives:

41/51

271 EV - Biden
198 EV - Trump
  69 EV - None
538 EV - Total

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020

[Tender Branson]

Cook Political Report still stubbornly refuses to have CA, HI and ID listed as „certified“ - even though the National Archives have received all 3 certificates already ...

[GeorgiaModerate]

Cook Political Report still stubbornly refuses to have CA, HI and ID listed as „certified“ - even though the National Archives have received all 3 certificates already ...

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1337129107323314176

[ibagli]

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

I think that's Steve Sisolak's actual everyday signature (see the bottom here).

[jimrtex]

I have alphabetized the states. Newly received states are in red.

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Alaska: John Binkley (R), finished 2nd in the 2006 gubernatorial primary behind Sarah Palin, but ahead of incumbent Frank Murkowski. Also a riverboat captain in Fairbanks on the Tanana River.

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Arkansas: Ed Bethune(R)

California: Pete McCloskey (D), Janine Bera(D), Shirley Weber(D)

Delaware: John Daniello (D), Gambino family soldier err founder Bark Eater Outfitters err 20-year-old Division III hockey play uh no, long time state party chair.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate).

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Hawaii: John "Raghu" Giuffre (American Shopping Party-candidate), party founder and promoter of raghu-nomics. Finished 6th in congressional race to replace Tulsi Gabbard.

Idaho: Rod Beck (R), Raul Labrador (R)

Illinois: Lori Lightfoot (D), William Redpath (L-candidate),

Indiana: James Buck (R), state senator.

Kentucky: Colmon Elridge (D-candidate) State Party chair.

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Maine: Peter LaVerdiere (R), age 79, and Jay Philbrick(D), age 18, are Maine's two congressional district electors.

Massachusetts: Nicole LaChapelle (D), mayor of Easthampton.

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

Minnesota: Muhammad Abdurrabman, who was an attempted faithless elector in 2016.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Nevada: Judith Whitmer (D), Clark County party official - notable in dispute over removal of pro-Palestine planks from county party platform. Yvanna Cancela (D), state senator and co-speaker DNC keynote infomercial

New Jersey: Tammy Murphy (D).

New York: Bill Clinton (D), Hillary Clinton (D), Andrew Cuomo (D), Kathy Hochul (D), Thomas DiNapoli (D), Letitia James (D), Jay Jacobs (D), Carl Heastie (D), Christine Quinn (D), Rhonda Weingarten (D)

North Carolina: Anthony Foxx (D-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

Ohio: Ken Blackwell (R)

Oklahoma: Anybody?

Oregon: Carla Lynn Hanson (D), state party chair.

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Rhode Island: Joe Paolino (D), former mayor of Providence (1984-1991), also lost gubernatorial primary to Bruce Sundlun, congressional primary to Robert Weygand, mayoral primary to David Cicilline.

South Carolina: ??

South Dakota: Kristi Noem (R), Larry Rhoden (R), Jason Ravnsborg (R)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R), former Texas state party chair.

Texas: Gene Seaman(R), Ken Mercer(R), Briscoe Cain(R), Nick Lampson(D-candidate), Terri Hodge(D-candidate), Katija Gruene(G-candidate)

Vermont: Kesha Ram (D), state senator-elect, and daughter of a Jewish mother and Hindu father who ran an Irish pub in Santa Monica. Her aunt is a Tory life peer.

Virginia: Richard Art Viguerie (R-candidate): Direct mail politics.

Washington: Sophia Danenberg (D), works for Boeing and whose favorite app is Excel, and incidentally is first Black woman to summit Mount Everest.

West Virginia: James Justice (R)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

District of Columbia: ??


Other highlights:

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!" Andrew Cuomo didn't either but the New York certificate did have his name bolded. The New York certificate is the only one where the signature line does not identify the signer. James Justice is identified as the governor on the West Virginia certificate.

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's)

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida. Five of these were designated in Indiana. Since Indiana noted the town of elector candidates, it specifically notes that these electors were from New Jersey, New Jersey, Florida, Connecticut, and New York.

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

Kamei Harris was a Trump-Pence elector in New Jersey. She is a black woman. If she voted, Kam... Harris would vote against Kam... Harris.

Vermont had Grumpy Old Patriots, Boiling Frog, Bull Moose, and Bread and Roses candidates.

In Ohio two candidates had fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

In Florida, Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

The Alaska certificate was executed in Anchorage, rather than Juneau, and signed by both the Governor and Lieutenant Governor (Alaska does not have a Secretary of State, and the Lieutenant Governor serves in that role).

Delaware does not list elector names for also-runs but simply "Elector 1 for Jo Jorgensen", etc. On the other hand, it gives neither the name of the party nor the presidential candidate for the other electors. We can only surmise that "John Daniello  295,933" might vote for Joe Biden.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1337484498418724869

[BudgieForce]

I think the final margin is 4.46%. So round up if you feel like it,  .

[emailking]

Round 4.46% to 4.5%, and then round that to 5%. Biden won by 5%.

[AGA]

Round 4.46% to 4.5%, and then round that to 5%. Biden won by 5%.

Don't forget to round that up to 10%.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Round 4.46% to 4.5%, and then round that to 5%. Biden won by 5%.

That's. Not how rounding works.

[emailking]

Round 4.46% to 4.5%, and then round that to 5%. Biden won by 5%.

That's. Not how rounding works.

Thanks.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Round 4.46% to 4.5%, and then round that to 5%. Biden won by 5%.

That's. Not how rounding works.

It's still better math than Trump and his supporters use at least, LOL.