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« Reply #600 on: September 06, 2020, 01:02:51 AM »

The most unrealistic assumption is the expectation that people can live like this indefinitely. Like everyone else, I hope that we have an effective vaccine deployed within the next six months. More likely we don't but political pressure builds to the point that most of these measures cannot be maintained.

I certainly agree with you here. It's amazing to me that we've been contending with all of these restrictions for six months now. I've predicted before that the present situation will probably continue at least until the end of this year, but I don't want to still be wearing masks and practicing social distancing in September 2021. And I'm sure that the vast majority of Americans don't want to be either. Sacrifices are necessary for now, and have been necessary for months, but they are unsustainable beyond a certain period of time. In my view, it is unrealistic to expect that we can completely suppress the virus without a vaccine, and even a vaccine won't eliminate it.
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« Reply #601 on: September 06, 2020, 07:52:57 AM »

So right now the expectation is that the winter will bring a massive surge to the coronavirus up north due to "cold weather" or something and that we will have a major flu outbreak.

Would be funny if the mask wearing results in the opposite and we have a very light flu season. lmao.
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« Reply #602 on: September 06, 2020, 10:04:07 AM »

I think we will have an effective vaccine distributed for the public in early summer of 2021, possibly sooner.
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« Reply #603 on: September 06, 2020, 11:19:29 AM »

So right now the expectation is that the winter will bring a massive surge to the coronavirus up north due to "cold weather" or something and that we will have a major flu outbreak.

Would be funny if the mask wearing results in the opposite and we have a very light flu season. lmao.

It should be expected that the flu season would be light as the same things you do for Covid limit chances of being exposed to the flu. 
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« Reply #604 on: September 06, 2020, 11:37:37 AM »

I cannot believe there are people defending the school administration in this debacle. They knew full well the risks of having students on campus and they chose to go ahead with in person classes to benefit their bottom line. Now that college students are acting like, well, college students, they’re feigning surprise and pocketing their tuition.

Disgusting behavior and frankly, it will hurt our efforts to contain COVID.
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« Reply #605 on: September 06, 2020, 12:21:46 PM »

I cannot believe there are people defending the school administration in this debacle. They knew full well the risks of having students on campus and they chose to go ahead with in person classes to benefit their bottom line. Now that college students are acting like, well, college students, they’re feigning surprise and pocketing their tuition.

Disgusting behavior and frankly, it will hurt our efforts to contain COVID.
The expulsion is justified. Plenty of kids who are willing to follow the rules don’t even get accepted, why do these people get a pass, “college students will be college students” is not an excuse for such behavior.
I concede that the  tuition pocketing is wrong. I would argue it’s basically robbery and the money should be returned.
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« Reply #606 on: September 06, 2020, 12:24:22 PM »

Also it’s hilarious.
The same side that cries about “muh right to deny service” is the one crying about the expulsion itself.
You can be upset with the money theft, but the expulsion was perfectly justified and honestly a good thing.
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« Reply #607 on: September 06, 2020, 06:11:40 PM »

Also it’s hilarious.
The same side that cries about “muh right to deny service” is the one crying about the expulsion itself.
You can be upset with the money theft, but the expulsion was perfectly justified and honestly a good thing.
No, 'honestly', it was not. It's a draconian response to something mundane and it will hurt our efforts to contain this disease.

Young people have been confined indoors for the better part of seven months and they're disproportionately suffering from anxiety, stress, and depression. Without in-person social connections, I think we'll see mental health indicators decline even more. Expelling kids for small in-person gatherings is ludicrous and counterproductive.
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« Reply #608 on: September 06, 2020, 06:51:16 PM »

Also it’s hilarious.
The same side that cries about “muh right to deny service” is the one crying about the expulsion itself.
You can be upset with the money theft, but the expulsion was perfectly justified and honestly a good thing.
No, 'honestly', it was not. It's a draconian response to something mundane and it will hurt our efforts to contain this disease.

Young people have been confined indoors for the better part of seven months and they're disproportionately suffering from anxiety, stress, and depression. Without in-person social connections, I think we'll see mental health indicators decline even more. Expelling kids for small in-person gatherings is ludicrous and counterproductive.
See...there is this thing called a face mask that makes these social gatherings much safer. Are you familiar with such a contraption?

(Not specifically replying to to you below)

And I find it ironic that the generation that was too addicted to their phones/unable to interact in-person in 2019 is now going to be devastated due to some social distancing in 2020
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« Reply #609 on: September 06, 2020, 07:14:14 PM »

Also it’s hilarious.
The same side that cries about “muh right to deny service” is the one crying about the expulsion itself.
You can be upset with the money theft, but the expulsion was perfectly justified and honestly a good thing.
No, 'honestly', it was not. It's a draconian response to something mundane and it will hurt our efforts to contain this disease.

Young people have been confined indoors for the better part of seven months and they're disproportionately suffering from anxiety, stress, and depression. Without in-person social connections, I think we'll see mental health indicators decline even more. Expelling kids for small in-person gatherings is ludicrous and counterproductive.
See...there is this thing called a face mask that makes these social gatherings much safer. Are you familiar with such a contraption?


You see, that kinda makes it impossible to drink. Are you familiar with literally the only reason people get together?
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« Reply #610 on: September 06, 2020, 07:25:55 PM »

Also it’s hilarious.
The same side that cries about “muh right to deny service” is the one crying about the expulsion itself.
You can be upset with the money theft, but the expulsion was perfectly justified and honestly a good thing.
No, 'honestly', it was not. It's a draconian response to something mundane and it will hurt our efforts to contain this disease.

Young people have been confined indoors for the better part of seven months and they're disproportionately suffering from anxiety, stress, and depression. Without in-person social connections, I think we'll see mental health indicators decline even more. Expelling kids for small in-person gatherings is ludicrous and counterproductive.
See...there is this thing called a face mask that makes these social gatherings much safer. Are you familiar with such a contraption?


You see, that kinda makes it impossible to drink. Are you familiar with literally the only reason people get together?
If you can’t socially distance while drinking, knowing that you are likely living in a communal space and everyone else is relying on you to not f**k up and shut down the school for their own education...you honestly never should have been accepted into college. Go ahead, drink with your friends, but don’t cry when you get expelled (and yes the money should be returned)
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« Reply #611 on: September 07, 2020, 02:05:35 AM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 9/6 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE: What's the overall change in the total?

Older Numbers (Hidden in spoiler mode to make the post more compact)


8/30: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 6,173,236 (+34,158 | ΔW Change: ↑4.40% | Σ Increase: ↑0.56%)
  • Deaths: 187,224 (+369 | ΔW Change: ↓14.19% | Σ Increase: ↑0.20%)

8/31: <M>
  • Cases: 6,211,682 (+38,446 | ΔW Change: ↓7.32% | Σ Increase: ↑0.62%)
  • Deaths: 187,736 (+512 | ΔW Change: ↑0.39% | Σ Increase: ↑0.27%)

9/1: <T>
  • Cases: 6,257,571 (+45,889 | ΔW Change: ↑14.44% | Σ Increase: ↑0.74%)
  • Deaths: 188,900 (+1,164 | ΔW Change: ↓9.77% | Σ Increase: ↑0.62%)

9/2: <W>
  • Cases: 6,290,737 (+33,166 | ΔW Change: ↓25.70% | Σ Increase: ↑0.53%)
  • Deaths: 189,964 (+1,064 | ΔW Change: ↓14.81% | Σ Increase: ↑0.56%)

9/3: <Þ>
  • Cases: 6,335,244 (+44,507 | ΔW Change: ↓3.81% | Σ Increase: ↑0.71%)
  • Deaths: 191,058 (+1,094 | ΔW Change: ↓4.29% | Σ Increase: ↑0.58%)

9/4: <F>
  • Cases: 6,389,057 (+53,813 | ΔW Change: ↑8.49% | Σ Increase: ↑0.85%)
  • Deaths: 192,111 (+1,053 | ΔW Change: ↓4.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.55%)

9/5 (Yesterday): <S>
  • Cases: 6,431,152 (+42,095 | ΔW Change: ↓1.75% | Σ Increase: ↑0.66%)
  • Deaths: 192,818 (+707 | ΔW Change: ↓25.89% | Σ Increase: ↑0.37%)

9/6 (Today): <Sunday>
  • Cases: 6,460,250 (+29,098 | ΔW Change: ↓14.81% | Σ Increase: ↑0.45%)
  • Deaths: 193,250 (+432 | ΔW Change: ↑17.07% | Σ Increase: ↑0.22%)
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« Reply #612 on: September 07, 2020, 06:29:37 AM »

Positivity rate in the U.S. yesterday was 4.1%, the lowest since MARCH 4, back when the U.S. had only a handful of cases.
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« Reply #613 on: September 07, 2020, 09:10:16 AM »

Indiana University reports "uncontrolled spread" of COVID-19 among fraternities and sororities.

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Mitigation testing positivity rates in some houses are now above 50 percent. As such, IU's team of public health experts is extremely concerned that Greek houses are seeing uncontrolled spread of COVID-19. This poses a significant risk to the nearly 2,600 students currently living in Greek or other communal housing organizations, as well as to the other 42,000 IU Bloomington students, the campus's 12,000 faculty and staff, and the surrounding community.

https://news.iu.edu/stories/2020/09/iub/releases/03-advisory-greek-housing-re-evaluate-living-situation.html
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« Reply #614 on: September 07, 2020, 11:26:15 AM »

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« Reply #615 on: September 07, 2020, 02:03:10 PM »

See...there is this thing called a face mask that makes these social gatherings much safer. Are you familiar with such a contraption?
You see, that kinda makes it impossible to drink. Are you familiar with literally the only reason people get together?
If you can’t socially distance while drinking, knowing that you are likely living in a communal space and everyone else is relying on you to not f**k up and shut down the school for their own education...you honestly never should have been accepted into college. Go ahead, drink with your friends, but don’t cry when you get expelled (and yes the money should be returned)
I see the libs want to criminalize having a beer with your boys — subject to $36,000 fine, or worse! Not good!
What part of “return the money” do y’all not understand?
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« Reply #616 on: September 08, 2020, 12:23:48 AM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 9/7 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE: What's the overall change in the total?

Older Numbers (Hidden in spoiler mode to make the post more compact)


8/30: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 6,173,236 (+34,158 | ΔW Change: ↑4.40% | Σ Increase: ↑0.56%)
  • Deaths: 187,224 (+369 | ΔW Change: ↓14.19% | Σ Increase: ↑0.20%)

8/31: <M>
  • Cases: 6,211,682 (+38,446 | ΔW Change: ↓7.32% | Σ Increase: ↑0.62%)
  • Deaths: 187,736 (+512 | ΔW Change: ↑0.39% | Σ Increase: ↑0.27%)

9/1: <T>
  • Cases: 6,257,571 (+45,889 | ΔW Change: ↑14.44% | Σ Increase: ↑0.74%)
  • Deaths: 188,900 (+1,164 | ΔW Change: ↓9.77% | Σ Increase: ↑0.62%)

9/2: <W>
  • Cases: 6,290,737 (+33,166 | ΔW Change: ↓25.70% | Σ Increase: ↑0.53%)
  • Deaths: 189,964 (+1,064 | ΔW Change: ↓14.81% | Σ Increase: ↑0.56%)

9/3: <Þ>
  • Cases: 6,335,244 (+44,507 | ΔW Change: ↓3.81% | Σ Increase: ↑0.71%)
  • Deaths: 191,058 (+1,094 | ΔW Change: ↓4.29% | Σ Increase: ↑0.58%)

9/4: <F>
  • Cases: 6,389,057 (+53,813 | ΔW Change: ↑8.49% | Σ Increase: ↑0.85%)
  • Deaths: 192,111 (+1,053 | ΔW Change: ↓4.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.55%)

9/5: <S>
  • Cases: 6,431,152 (+42,095 | ΔW Change: ↓1.75% | Σ Increase: ↑0.66%)
  • Deaths: 192,818 (+707 | ΔW Change: ↓25.89% | Σ Increase: ↑0.37%)

9/6 (Yesterday): <Sunday>
  • Cases: 6,460,250 (+29,098 | ΔW Change: ↓14.81% | Σ Increase: ↑0.45%)
  • Deaths: 193,250 (+432 | ΔW Change: ↑17.07% | Σ Increase: ↑0.22%)

9/7 (Today): <M>
  • Cases: 6,485,575 (+25,325 | ΔW Change: ↓34.13% | Σ Increase: ↑0.39%)
  • Deaths: 193,534 (+284 | ΔW Change: ↓44.53% | Σ Increase: ↑0.15%)
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« Reply #617 on: September 08, 2020, 10:22:16 AM »
« Edited: September 08, 2020, 10:51:54 AM by Donald Trump’s Toupée »

“Listen to the Scientists” has to be the most naive belief. Conventional Scientists once thought the earth was flat. It took brave men to stand up and prove otherwise. What looks like science today, could easily become fiction tomorrow.

Believe the Social Scientists. Listen to the Political Scientists. Dr. Fauci has been consistently wrong - he has zero credibility.

Critical thinking is what’s most important.
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« Reply #618 on: September 08, 2020, 10:57:50 AM »

“Listen to the Scientists” has to be the most naive belief. Conventional Scientists once thought the earth was flat. It took brave men to stand up and prove otherwise. What looks like science today, could easily become fiction tomorrow.

Believe the Social Scientists. Listen to the Political Scientists. Dr. Fauci has been consistently wrong - he has zero credibility.

Critical thinking is what’s most important.
Follow your own advice. Seek medical care only from political scientists. If you need a surgery, get an anthropologist to do it. Go to an economist to examine that lump on your head.

I’m actually a strong believer in the social sciences, but come on, this comment is ridiculous.
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« Reply #619 on: September 08, 2020, 01:04:50 PM »

Are most people still wearing masks in your area? I went out for the first time in a while and about 80% of people weren't even wearing masks. Kind of shows you why Biden and Harris backtracked on the mask mandate.
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« Reply #620 on: September 08, 2020, 01:08:41 PM »

Are most people still wearing masks in your area? I went out for the first time in a while and about 80% of people weren't even wearing masks. Kind of shows you why Biden and Harris backtracked on the mask mandate.
In Manhattan most are still wearing masks, despite the huge drop in daily cases here since the peak.
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« Reply #621 on: September 08, 2020, 01:14:46 PM »

Are most people still wearing masks in your area? I went out for the first time in a while and about 80% of people weren't even wearing masks. Kind of shows you why Biden and Harris backtracked on the mask mandate.

Outdoors it's zero.
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« Reply #622 on: September 08, 2020, 01:54:02 PM »

Are most people still wearing masks in your area? I went out for the first time in a while and about 80% of people weren't even wearing masks. Kind of shows you why Biden and Harris backtracked on the mask mandate.
I mean, considering I go to a school which enforces it, yes. Mask compliance is 100%.
In general, the TCHD statistics show a high mask usage rate.
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« Reply #623 on: September 08, 2020, 01:57:21 PM »

“Listen to the Scientists” has to be the most naive belief. Conventional Scientists once thought the earth was flat. It took brave men to stand up and prove otherwise.

No that is not true. The ancient Greeks were the first to know it was round (so far as we know). Thereafter, most educated elite knew it was round. Scientists knew it was round. Columbus knew it was round.

The Earth not being the center of the universe would fit your point.
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« Reply #624 on: September 08, 2020, 02:33:02 PM »

Are most people still wearing masks in your area? I went out for the first time in a while and about 80% of people weren't even wearing masks. Kind of shows you why Biden and Harris backtracked on the mask mandate.

This was my experience beginning about three weeks ago. I haven't been outside without one, but the overwhelming majority is even in a city.
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