COVID-19 Megathread 5: The Trumps catch COVID-19

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1284203797934419968

I'm not going to wish the virus on anyone, but DeSantis (and Brian Kemp) is really pushing that resolve.

[Hammy]

https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1284203797934419968

I'm not going to wish the virus on anyone, but DeSantis (and Brian Kemp) is really pushing that resolve.

Clearly they don't care about the science that says even the healthiest people can have severe symptoms if the viral load they're exposed to is high--such as a gym where everybody's in close contact breathing heavily.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Retail CEOs: Enough is enough. It's time for all US governors to require masks in stores (written by 21 CEOs of major US retailers)

[Koharu]

Retail CEOs: Enough is enough. It's time for all US governors to require masks in stores (written by 21 CEOs of major US retailers)

Huh. Interesting combination of stores there, but definitely a variety across the retail spectrum.

[emailking]

I don't think gyms should close. Lots of people gained weight during quarantine. Also, being in good shape helps your immunity. That's one area where I think the cure is worse than the disease. Members should forced to maintain strict social distancing and wipe down their equipment after use. And the gyms should be thoroughly cleaned every day.

[Progressive Pessimist]

https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1284203797934419968

I'm not going to wish the virus on anyone, but DeSantis (and Brian Kemp) is really pushing that resolve.

Adulterous corrupt meth-head or not, Andrew Gillum would not be f***ing up like this if he was Governor.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Retail CEOs: Enough is enough. It's time for all US governors to require masks in stores (written by 21 CEOs of major US retailers)

Bunch of Trump-hating anarchists and agitators.

[Gass3268]

Trump is bored and done with COVID-19:

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1284289432863100928?s=20

[Dr. Arch]

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 7/17 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

New - Substituting the Δ Change metric as of 7/13 on dates starting from 7/5:
ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.

• IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.

• IE: What's the overall change in the total?

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7/5: <Sunday>

• Cases: 2,982,928 (+47,158 | ΔW Change: ↑16.32% | Σ Increase: ↑1.61%)
• Deaths: 132,569 (+251 | ΔW Change: ↓11.93% | Σ Increase: ↑0.19%)

7/6: <M>

• Cases: 3,040,833 (+57,905 | ΔW Change: ↑29.47% | Σ Increase: ↑1.94%)
• Deaths: 132,979 (+410 | ΔW Change: ↑19.88% | Σ Increase: ↑0.31%)

7/7: <T>

• Cases: 3,097,084 (+56,251 | ΔW Change: ↑22.15% | Σ Increase: ↑1.85%)
• Deaths: 133,972 (+993 | ΔW Change: ↓26.06% | Σ Increase: ↑0.75%)

7/8: <W>

• Cases: 3,158,734 (+61,650 | ΔW Change: ↑18.33% | Σ Increase: ↑1.99%)
• Deaths: 134,854 (+882 | ΔW Change: ↑30.47% | Σ Increase: ↑0.66%)

7/9: <Þ>

• Cases: 3,219,999 (+61,265 | ΔW Change: ↑7.04% | Σ Increase: ↑1.94%)
• Deaths: 135,822 (+968 | ΔW Change: ↑40.90% | Σ Increase: ↑0.72%)

7/10: <F>

• Cases: 3,291,786 (+71,787 | ΔW Change: ↑34.44% | Σ Increase: ↑2.23%)
• Deaths: 136,671 (+849 | ΔW Change: ↑37.82% | Σ Increase: ↑0.63%)

7/11: <S>

• Cases: 3,355,646 (+63,860 | ΔW Change: ↑41.34% | Σ Increase: ↑1.94%)
• Deaths: 137,403 (+732 | ΔW Change: ↑245.28% | Σ Increase: ↑0.54%)

7/12: <Sunday>

• Cases: 3,413,995 (+58,349 | ΔW Change: ↑23.73% | Σ Increase: ↑1.74%)
• Deaths: 137,782 (+379 | ΔW Change: ↑51.00% | Σ Increase: ↑0.28%)

7/13: <M>

• Cases: 3,479,483 (+65,488 | ΔW Change: ↑13.10% | Σ Increase: ↑1.74%)
• Deaths: 138,247 (+465 | ΔW Change: ↑13.41% | Σ Increase: ↑0.28%)

7/14: <T>

• Cases: 3,545,077 (+65,594 | ΔW Change: ↑16.61% | Σ Increase: ↑1.89%)
• Deaths: 139,143 (+896 | ΔW Change: ↓9.77% | Σ Increase: ↑0.65%)

7/15: <W>

• Cases: 3,616,747 (+71,670 | ΔW Change: ↑13.61% | Σ Increase: ↑2.02%)
• Deaths: 140,140 (+997 | ΔW Change: ↑16.25% | Σ Increase: ↑0.72%)

7/16 (Yesterday): <Þ>

• Cases: 3,695,025 (+78,278 | ΔW Change: ↑27.77% | Σ Increase: ↑2.16%)
• Deaths: 141,118 (+978 | ΔW Change: ↑1.03% | Σ Increase: ↑0.70%)

7/17 (Today): <F>

• Cases: 3,770,012 (+74,987 | ΔW Change: ↑4.46% | Σ Increase: ↑2.03%)
• Deaths: 142,064 (+946 | ΔW Change: ↑11.43% | Σ Increase: ↑0.67%)

[Dr. Arch]

The numbers didn't explode as much as I expected yesterday, but we're still in the red relative to last week on all fronts.

[Hammy]

The numbers didn't explode as much as I expected yesterday, but we're still in the red relative to last week on all fronts.

Are we getting honest numbers anymore after the White House intervention in CDC tracking?

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

The numbers didn't explode as much as I expected yesterday, but we're still in the red relative to last week on all fronts.

Are we getting honest numbers anymore after the White House intervention in CDC tracking?

I believe the CDC tracking has nothing to do with the dailly tracking numbers from worldometers.  The CDC numbers are more “official”, but have always been a couple weeks behind.   My impression is that the worldometers numbers are actually crowdsourced.

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

The numbers didn't explode as much as I expected yesterday, but we're still in the red relative to last week on all fronts.

Data can be quite noisy. The overall trend is still alarming.

[Pericles]

Trump is bored and done with COVID-19:

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1284289432863100928?s=20

It's incredibly selfish of him to not resign then and let someone who is actually willing and able to at least try and do the job people expect them to. Of course, it's completely unsurprising behavior from Trump.

[Badger]

Retail CEOs: Enough is enough. It's time for all US governors to require masks in stores (written by 21 CEOs of major US retailers)

Bunch of Trump-hating anarchists and agitators.

Goddamn antifa socialists!!

[Calthrina950]

Retail CEOs: Enough is enough. It's time for all US governors to require masks in stores (written by 21 CEOs of major US retailers)

Bunch of Trump-hating anarchists and agitators.

Goddamn antifa socialists!!

With Colorado and Arkansas having joined the mandatory mask train yesterday, more than half of all U.S. states have now required them in public. At the trajectory we are going, I expect that there will be very few holdouts on that front by the end of next month. The only states that may still hold back from a mask mandate would be interior western states like Wyoming, South Dakota, and Alaska.

[TJ in Oregon]

https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1284203797934419968

I'm not going to wish the virus on anyone, but DeSantis (and Brian Kemp) is really pushing that resolve.

Clearly they don't care about the science that says even the healthiest people can have severe symptoms if the viral load they're exposed to is high--such as a gym where everybody's in close contact breathing heavily.

Have we established now that being exposed to more of the virus actually leads to more severe symptoms rather than just a higher probability of contracting it?

[Hammy]

https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1284203797934419968

I'm not going to wish the virus on anyone, but DeSantis (and Brian Kemp) is really pushing that resolve.

Clearly they don't care about the science that says even the healthiest people can have severe symptoms if the viral load they're exposed to is high--such as a gym where everybody's in close contact breathing heavily.

Have we established now that being exposed to more of the virus actually leads to more severe symptoms rather than just a higher probability of contracting it?

It's been known since at least March, though not widely reported on by media since they're more obsessed with case numbers.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/sars-cov-2-viral-load-and-the-severity-of-covid-19/

Higher SARS-CoV-2 viral loads. might worsen outcomes, and data from China suggests the viral load is higher in patients with more severe disease. The amount of virus exposure at the start of infection – the infectious dose – may increase the severity of the illness and is also. linked to a higher viral load

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Scientists identify six different types of coronavirus with increasing severity levels

Analysis of thousands of cases by artificial intelligence software has revealed different "clusters" of symptoms and ranked them in order of severity.

Headache and loss of smell are common to all six groupings, but the range of symptoms varies widely after that.

Scientists at King's College London (KCL) found that patients with the sixth type of Covid-19 are nearly 10 times more likely to end up needing breathing support than patients in the first group.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

This op-ed from Pence has aged really well, even in comparison to the normal standards of the Trump misadministration:

There Isn’t a Coronavirus ‘Second Wave’

In recent days, the media has taken to sounding the alarm bells over a “second wave” of coronavirus infections. Such panic is overblown. Thanks to the leadership of President Trump and the courage and compassion of the American people, our public health system is far stronger than it was four months ago, and we are winning the fight against the invisible enemy.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

Scientists identify six different types of coronavirus with increasing severity levels

Analysis of thousands of cases by artificial intelligence software has revealed different "clusters" of symptoms and ranked them in order of severity.

Headache and loss of smell are common to all six groupings, but the range of symptoms varies widely after that.

Scientists at King's College London (KCL) found that patients with the sixth type of Covid-19 are nearly 10 times more likely to end up needing breathing support than patients in the first group.

Are these different strains or just different symptom tracks?  For instance, if person A had the mildest one, would person B get that same version from him/her?  If that's the case, that would be a huge development because it would really make an "intentional and rapid herd immunity strategy" much easier to implement with much less cost.

[ilikeverin]

Scientists identify six different types of coronavirus with increasing severity levels

Analysis of thousands of cases by artificial intelligence software has revealed different "clusters" of symptoms and ranked them in order of severity.

Headache and loss of smell are common to all six groupings, but the range of symptoms varies widely after that.

Scientists at King's College London (KCL) found that patients with the sixth type of Covid-19 are nearly 10 times more likely to end up needing breathing support than patients in the first group.

Are these different strains or just different symptom tracks?  For instance, if person A had the mildest one, would person B get that same version from him/her?  If that's the case, that would be a huge development because it would really make an "intentional and rapid herd immunity strategy" much easier to implement with much less cost.

I wish that that article linked to the full article (or gave enough information to find it), but it seems like it's the "just different symptom tracks" option... I'm guessing they did a factor analysis based on symptoms, which is basically just a way to sort people with different constellations of symptoms into separate groups that could be used to predict later outcomes. So this could be used to predict which cases would get a lot worse, but not to predict disease spread.

[Sir Mohamed]

Scientists identify six different types of coronavirus with increasing severity levels

Analysis of thousands of cases by artificial intelligence software has revealed different "clusters" of symptoms and ranked them in order of severity.

Headache and loss of smell are common to all six groupings, but the range of symptoms varies widely after that.

Scientists at King's College London (KCL) found that patients with the sixth type of Covid-19 are nearly 10 times more likely to end up needing breathing support than patients in the first group.

Are these different strains or just different symptom tracks?  For instance, if person A had the mildest one, would person B get that same version from him/her?  If that's the case, that would be a huge development because it would really make an "intentional and rapid herd immunity strategy" much easier to implement with much less cost.

I wish that that article linked to the full article (or gave enough information to find it), but it seems like it's the "just different symptom tracks" option... I'm guessing they did a factor analysis based on symptoms, which is basically just a way to sort people with different constellations of symptoms into separate groups that could be used to predict later outcomes. So this could be used to predict which cases would get a lot worse, but not to predict disease spread.

The most interesting question here would be how this effect post-infection immunity. If patients from one form are rarely immune to the other types, it would be bad news for vaccines. Earlier in the pandemic, I read that people who were recently infected with another coronavirus might have some level of immunity against Sars II though.

[Frodo]

New York has set the example to everyone on how to handle the coronavirus properly:

Fauci holds up New York as model for fighting coronavirus — 'They did it correctly'

Kudos to Governor Andrew Cuomo!

[It’s so Joever]

New York has set the example to everyone on how to handle the coronavirus properly:

Fauci holds up New York as model for fighting coronavirus — 'They did it correctly'

Kudos to Governor Andrew Cuomo!

Watch Del Tachi use this to smear Fauci as an evil partisan hack.
While Cuomo definitely didn’t do everything right, he is infinitely better than the Sunbelt Trio and Kemp the Killer.