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« Reply #2325 on: August 31, 2022, 07:17:47 PM »

As I've said many times before, I think it's fair to extrapolate how this became a referendum on Palin, even with the unique electoral system. As such I think it fits into the theme of this year's elections when it comes to the candidates being nominated.

Other stuff like Biden, Dobbs, and the economy are probably mostly irrelevant though.
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« Reply #2326 on: August 31, 2022, 07:18:25 PM »

Not worth reading much if anything into special elections, but I do think Republicans losing Alaska for good is going to happen sooner rather than later. In my view, Blue Alaska is probably more likely than Blue Texas by the end of the decade.

I think Alaska is one of the states where the abortion issue coming into the forefront of national politics could have a pretty significant impact on its politics, given its heavily pro-choice population (and I say this as someone who thinks the effects of the Dobbs decision are somewhat overstated).
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« Reply #2327 on: August 31, 2022, 07:19:33 PM »

Looks like we have our Scott Brown/Doug Jones surprise underdog statwide special election win for this election cycle. Smiley
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« Reply #2328 on: August 31, 2022, 07:19:59 PM »

Absolutely insane. HUGE congrats to Peltola. Let's go!!
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« Reply #2329 on: August 31, 2022, 07:21:32 PM »

Extrapolating this swing compared to the 2020 result suggests we are looking at something like a D+15 national environment.
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« Reply #2330 on: August 31, 2022, 07:21:38 PM »

Looks like we have our Scott Brown/Doug Jones surprise underdog statwide special election win for this election cycle. Smiley

Brown signaled a wave for Republicans, Jones for Democrats, so Peltola obviously a sign of a big wave for Republicans.
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« Reply #2331 on: August 31, 2022, 07:21:59 PM »

Not worth reading much if anything into special elections, but I do think Republicans losing Alaska for good is going to happen sooner rather than later. In my view, Blue Alaska is probably more likely than Blue Texas by the end of the decade.

I think Alaska is one of the states where the abortion issue coming into the forefront of national politics could have a pretty significant impact on its politics, given its heavily pro-choice population (and I say this as someone who thinks the effects of the Dobbs decision are somewhat overstated).
Actually I was thinking it may be a big factor there because Alaska isn't somewhere where you can just take a trip to a neighboring state.

Currently legal abortion in Alaska is protected by its own state level Roe v. Wade equivalent ruling but the current Alaska Supreme Court is more conservative than the one that issued it. Getting an abortion ban passed to challenge it might be difficult due to how it's state legislature works and Democrats punching above their weight, but the fact is if it did happen Alaskan women would be in a much bigger pickle than ones in any continental state.
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« Reply #2332 on: August 31, 2022, 07:23:31 PM »

Imagine telling Atlas two weeks ago that NY-19 would vote to the right of Alaska.
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« Reply #2333 on: August 31, 2022, 07:24:06 PM »

Looks like we have our Scott Brown/Doug Jones surprise underdog statwide special election win for this election cycle. Smiley

You would think Republicans would have had one already.

TX-34 and Virginia last year, maybe? I don't know if they really count though. Close to when those elections were held it looked pretty likely that both Republicans would win.
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« Reply #2334 on: August 31, 2022, 07:25:03 PM »

Imagine telling Atlas two weeks ago that NY-19 would vote to the right of Alaska.

Or that, for even what will be a fleeting few months, TX-34 will be represented by a Republican and AK-at-large by a Democrat. 
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« Reply #2335 on: August 31, 2022, 07:26:35 PM »

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« Reply #2336 on: August 31, 2022, 07:27:15 PM »
« Edited: August 31, 2022, 07:32:32 PM by Miscellaneous Top Secret Crumpets »

I believe there is now only one Republican representing a district bordering the Pacific Ocean, and she just lost her primary a few weeks ago.

EDIT: Put another way, no representative on the entire Pacific Coast opposed impeaching Trump.
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« Reply #2337 on: August 31, 2022, 07:27:42 PM »

Don Young first started in this seat on March 23rd 1973, about 2 months after Roe was decided on January 22nd 1973. Now, about 2 months after Roe was overturned, a Democrat will be in it.
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« Reply #2338 on: August 31, 2022, 07:27:49 PM »

Extrapolating this swing compared to the 2020 result suggests we are looking at something like a D+15 national environment.

I mean, the Republican nominee (effectively) went from the Dean of the House, who’d represented Alaska for over half the time it’s been a state, to a nationwide joke.
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« Reply #2339 on: August 31, 2022, 07:33:57 PM »

So is there or will there be a breakdown of the second round votes by state house district?
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« Reply #2340 on: August 31, 2022, 07:34:08 PM »

As I've said many times before, I think it's fair to extrapolate how this became a referendum on Palin, even with the unique electoral system. As such I think it fits into the theme of this year's elections when it comes to the candidates being nominated.

Other stuff like Biden, Dobbs, and the economy are probably mostly irrelevant though.

I disagree. Peltola getting 40%+ in the first round likely shouldn't have even been possible in a red environment.
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« Reply #2341 on: August 31, 2022, 07:36:41 PM »

Extrapolating this swing compared to the 2020 result suggests we are looking at something like a D+15 national environment.

I mean, the Republican nominee (effectively) went from the Dean of the House, who’d represented Alaska for over half the time it’s been a state, to a nationwide joke.

And it would have remained a nationwide joke if Palin succeeded him.

As I've said many times before, I think it's fair to extrapolate how this became a referendum on Palin, even with the unique electoral system. As such I think it fits into the theme of this year's elections when it comes to the candidates being nominated.

Other stuff like Biden, Dobbs, and the economy are probably mostly irrelevant though.

I disagree. Peltola getting 40%+ in the first round likely shouldn't have even been possible in a red environment.

Maybe, but I think it's evident now how much Alaska hates their former Governor and how the electoral system allowed for them to express that. It might not have been a fluke, but it still kind of feels like it. I won't deny it as a rousing victory though.

We'll see how it goes in November.
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« Reply #2342 on: August 31, 2022, 07:37:59 PM »

Regardless on why she lost, this should also excite Democrats and motivate them more!
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« Reply #2343 on: August 31, 2022, 07:38:38 PM »

Unbelievable. I'm honestly speechless. I don't expect us to hold this seat in November, but wow.
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« Reply #2344 on: August 31, 2022, 07:39:42 PM »
« Edited: August 31, 2022, 07:45:16 PM by MT Treasurer »

As I've said many times before, I think it's fair to extrapolate how this became a referendum on Palin, even with the unique electoral system. As such I think it fits into the theme of this year's elections when it comes to the candidates being nominated.

Other stuff like Biden, Dobbs, and the economy are probably mostly irrelevant though.

I disagree. Peltola getting 40%+ in the first round likely shouldn't have even been possible in a red environment.

Mark Begich only lost by two points in what many consider a "red wave" year, and that was with November turnout. Alaska isn’t nearly as Republican as many here make it out to be, and it’s had one of the sharpest and most consistent Democratic trends in the country since 2000.

It’s still an impressive win for Democrats, though (and for the record, I think it’s unwise to write Peltola off in November even if Republicans do well nationally).
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« Reply #2345 on: August 31, 2022, 07:51:56 PM »

Sarah can't see congress from here.
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« Reply #2346 on: August 31, 2022, 07:53:17 PM »


But Mary Peltola will soon be able to see it from her house.
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« Reply #2347 on: August 31, 2022, 07:53:48 PM »

Regardless on why she lost, this should also excite Democrats and motivate them more!

There is absolutely no reason Dems should be thinking negatively after this result. This seat was never supposed to flip, not even for three months and especially not during a BIDEN MIDTERM!!!
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« Reply #2348 on: August 31, 2022, 07:55:01 PM »

The last time a Democrat represented Alaska in the House, Joe Biden wasn’t in the senate.

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« Reply #2349 on: August 31, 2022, 07:56:49 PM »

Happy birthday, Rep-elect Peltola.
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