FL-SEN 2022: Nothing to see here

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Guy's here are being to pessimistic, Biden losses a state by 4 points and suddenly it's Safe-R and their democrats have no hope?

I think Alan Grayson(Democrats Floridaman) or Charlie Crist(who's looking like he might be drawn out of his seat) might give it a chance. Rubio is vulnerable cause he's a pretty meh senator. I think it's lean-r close t the edge of likley.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Rick Scott is far easier to beat.

You are not going to beat him either.

Don't be so sure, GA Runoffs, if D's win, that will dictate D's if we are still viable in the South.  

D's do need candidates for Senate and James Carville said D's are still viable in 2022, in WI, PA, FL, GA and NC. There wasn't any Senate race in OH and FL in 2020, to get the base out strongly for Biden, that's why Trump won it easily.

DeSantis and Scott only won by 0.5, and Rubio only won by 8, well within range to win them

[UWS]

Guy's here are being to pessimistic, Biden losses a state by 4 points and suddenly it's Safe-R and their democrats have no hope?

I think Alan Grayson(Democrats Floridaman) or Charlie Crist(who's looking like he might be drawn out of his seat) might give it a chance. Rubio is vulnerable cause he's a pretty meh senator. I think it's lean-r close t the edge of likley.

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Another reason why Rubio is quite safe is not only that Trump won FL but also because the GOP flipped FL-26 and FL-27, eliminating potential Dem rivals. And Val Demings is too extreme for FL she served as an impeachment manager un Trump’s senate trial. And we were close from winning FL-13 which could lead to more successful efforts to defeat Crist with maybe former St. Petersburg Mayor Rick Baker.

[Donerail]

Not sure what planet "UWS" is posting from but Donna Shalala, who is 79 years old, was not a "potential Dem rival" for the US Senate in 2022.

[Gracile]

I think the margin could be closeish (single-digits), but the outcome will be the same. Rubio will win easily.

[KaiserDave]

Not sure what planet "UWS" is posting from but Donna Shalala, who is 79 years old, was not a "potential Dem rival" for the US Senate in 2022.

Hurricane Donna knows no age

[brucejoel99]

Not sure what planet "UWS" is posting from but Donna Shalala, who is 79 years old, was not a "potential Dem rival" for the US Senate in 2022.

Hurricane Donna knows no age

[UWS]

Not sure what planet "UWS" is posting from but Donna Shalala, who is 79 years old, was not a "potential Dem rival" for the US Senate in 2022.

At least flipping FL-27 makes FL more red, especially southern FL that is crucial to win a statewide race in FL.

[Rookie Yinzer]

The Democrats should not waste any money here.

[Blair]

I feel the much bigger red flag is the continued failure to beat an incumbent senator in close races in midterms; beyond wave years like 2006 & 2014 it's very hard & part of the reason why both 2016 & 2020 ended up being such failures for the democrats.

The fact that Rubio alone turned this race around in 2016 shows that it's an issue.

[Blair]

I feel the much bigger red flag is the continued failure to beat an incumbent senator in close races in midterms; beyond wave years like 2006 & 2014 it's very hard & part of the reason why both 2016 & 2020 ended up being such failures for the democrats.

The fact that Rubio alone turned this race around in 2016 shows that it's an issue.

However this is a reason for the DSCC not to burn money; there's nothing stopping democrats in Florida using this race as a trial race & trying out a new or at least different strategy.

It's often forgotten how important even a losing statewide campaign can be for building up the party; the biggest problem for the democrats seems to be a belief that you can just build up a big campaign, pour $100 million in money into TV ads 3 months before an election & then re-assemble it every 2-4 years.

[VAR]

https://twitter.com/MadelainePisani/status/1333766836920479744

[2016]

https://twitter.com/MadelainePisani/status/1333766836920479744

Allan Ellison is no more than a C-Lister for the Democrats here.

Waiting on Decisions from Rep. Darren Soto, Rep. Stephanie Murphy and Rep. Val Demings.

If all 3 pass on the Race I am going to move FL-SEN to likely R.

[SnowLabrador]

https://twitter.com/MadelainePisani/status/1333766836920479744

Allan Ellison is no more than a C-Lister for the Democrats here.

Waiting on Decisions from Rep. Darren Soto, Rep. Stephanie Murphy and Rep. Val Demings.

If all 3 pass on the Race I am going to move FL-SEN to likely R.

It's there already. Granted, it's still VERY early.

[VAR]

The Palm Beach Post: They call it socialism; we call it democracy

[Young Conservative]

The Palm Beach Post: They call it socialism; we call it democracy

They call it journalism, we call it hackery.

[Donerail]

After leaving GOP, David Jolly weighs his political future in Florida as an independent

The former Florida congressman is itching to run for public office in 2022 — possibly for U.S. Senate, though governor isn’t out of the question, either.

“I do think we could mount a viable campaign. But viable and winning look very different and require a lot of money.”

Jolly was named executive chairman of the Serve America Movement in March. He believes in the party’s mission enough to consider a quixotic run for U.S. Senate or governor to help grow the movement.

Jolly would be welcome to run under the banner of the Independent Party, said Ernie Bach, the party’s longtime chairman in Florida.

[Frenchrepublican]

After leaving GOP, David Jolly weighs his political future in Florida as an independent

The former Florida congressman is itching to run for public office in 2022 — possibly for U.S. Senate, though governor isn’t out of the question, either.

“I do think we could mount a viable campaign. But viable and winning look very different and require a lot of money.”

Jolly was named executive chairman of the Serve America Movement in March. He believes in the party’s mission enough to consider a quixotic run for U.S. Senate or governor to help grow the movement.

Jolly would be welcome to run under the banner of the Independent Party, said Ernie Bach, the party’s longtime chairman in Florida.

Actually it's democrats who would be hurt the most by a Jolly candidacy

[VAR]

David Jolly left the GOP? When?

[Frenchrepublican]

David Jolly left the GOP? When?

Yeah he officially became an independent in 2018, but even before switching he sounded more or less like a NeverTrump person, and to be honest his record as a congressman was very moderate.

Here what he said when he became an independent : '' Jolly was a Republican congressmen in Florida who was unseated in 2016 by Democrat Charlie Christ. He since has become an MSNBC contributor — a rare conservative presence on that cable news network — and has been critical of President Donald Trump and the GOP, recently saying he wanted the Democrats to win the majority of the House in the upcoming midterms because it would better protect the country ''

https://deadline.com/2018/10/david-jolly-leaves-republican-party-bill-maher-msnbc-video-1202477694/

[2016]

The best Candidate for Democrats to run against Rubio would be a "Self-Funder". FL does have very expensive Media Markets. Not sure how someone like Jolly, Demings, Murphy, Crist or Soto would cope with that.

[Donerail]

Actually it's democrats who would be hurt the most by a Jolly candidacy

?? I don't think I (or Jolly, or the article) said anything otherwise. Seems obvious that an MSNBC talking head would draw more from Democrats.

[VAR]

https://twitter.com/rpyers/status/1335796899656290305

LOL

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

*facepalm

[Frenchrepublican]

Actually it's democrats who would be hurt the most by a Jolly candidacy

?? I don't think I (or Jolly, or the article) said anything otherwise. Seems obvious that an MSNBC talking head would draw more from Democrats.

That was just a general observation