FL-SEN 2022: Nothing to see here

[Roll Roons]

There are 9 magic letters that will sink her bid before it gets off the ground.

S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M

[Calthrina950]

Rep. Stephanie Murphy 'seriously considering' bid to unseat Rubio

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/24/florida-murphy-rubio-senate-2022-471402

Florida Rep. Stephanie Murphy is seriously considering a bid to unseat Sen. Marco Rubio’s 2022 reelection, announcing Wednesday that she’s launching a statewide listening tour and has hired a top Democratic operative to manage the effort.

Murphy, 42, has been elected three times to one of Florida’s most competitive congressional districts in Orlando, and first won the seat by knocking out 12-term incumbent GOP Rep. John Mica when few thought she could. It was a giant-killer act that Democrats hope she can repeat if she takes on Rubio, widely seen as a hard-to-beat incumbent.

“I know what it takes to defeat a powerful incumbent because I’ve done it. I know what it takes to develop the fundraising and grassroots operation — that machine to win in a swing district — because I’ve done it three times,” Murphy told POLITICO in announcing her new initiative, called “Cast Forward with Stephanie Murphy.”

The announcement was paired with an introductory biographical ad on YouTube where Murphy describes herself as “a patriot, not a politician.”

Murphy, acknowledging she’s “seriously considering” a senate bid in either 2022 or 2024 when GOP Sen. Rick Scott is up for reelection, said her initiative is designed to “regroup, refocus, and reenergize Florida Democrats” who have watched Republicans out-organize, out-message and out-vote them, turning the once-purple swing state into a reddish battleground.

Murphy's district isn't as competitive anymore as she makes it out to be. She won reelection by 12%, and the district was handily carried by Biden. Gillum and Nelson both won her district in 2018 as well without any difficulty.

[KaiserDave]

I'm just not gonna open any thread that starts with "FL" from now until forever

[Donerail]

Murphy's district isn't as competitive anymore as she makes it out to be. She won reelection by 12%, and the district was handily carried by Biden. Gillum and Nelson both won her district in 2018 as well without any difficulty.

True of her current district. Maybe not true of her next one, which is why she's running now.

[Roronoa D. Law]

There are 9 magic letters that will sink her bid before it gets off the ground.

S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M

What are you talking about her family fled socialism?

[Roll Roons]

There are 9 magic letters that will sink her bid before it gets off the ground.

S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M

What are you talking about her family fled socialism?

I know, but that word just seems to be a magic bullet for the FLGOP.

[Gracile]

Murphy has no chance at unseating Rubio just by nature of the state (R-leaning at the presidential level + Democratic presidential midterm) regardless of if the GOP runs on socialism or whatever.

[Donerail]

lazy, reductive #analysis in this thread — Puerto Ricans & Mexicans don't have any reason to care about communism but you saw the same movement in Immokalee and in Kissimmee that you saw in Doralzuela

[free my dawg]

Maybe doomerism isn't the right approach, but doomerism is definitely the right approach for FL elections.

[Frenchrepublican]

My opinion is that she is going to run, there are few doubts about that, she is extremely opportunistic and is very ambitious, now Murphy is a massively overrated candidate (like most fake moderate democrats) and I could easily see her doing even a bit worse than the other Murphy (Pat). Also it is laughable how she is describing her district, yeah FL-7 was a R leaning district, before 2016, but in 2016 the liberal FL Supreme court redrawn the map and FL-7 went from being a Romney district to a Obama one, and since then the district has moved even more to the left, Biden/Nelson/Gillum all won it by double digits despite losing the state, so the idea that this district is a microcosm of the state as whole is ridiculous.

Also I'm not sure what exactly her strategy is, she would run in a Trump carried state which has trended to the right and which is now 8 points to the right of the country, despite that she called ''republicans, a threat to democracy'', if you want to increase turnout among your opponents it is exactly the kind of words you sould use.

[beesley]

My opinion is that she is going to run, there are few doubts about that, she is extremely opportunistic and is very ambitious, now Murphy is a massively overrated candidate (like most fake moderate democrats) and I could easily see her doing even a bit worse than the other Murphy (Pat). Also it is laughable how she is describing her district, yeah FL-7 was a R leaning district, before 2016, but in 2016 the liberal FL Supreme court redrawn the map and FL-7 went from being a Romney district to a Obama one, and since then the district has moved even more to the left, Biden/Nelson/Gillum all won it by double digits despite losing the state, so the idea that this district is a microcosm of the state as whole is ridiculous.

Also I'm not sure what exactly her strategy is, she would run in a Trump carried state which has trended to the right and which is now 8 points to the right of the country, despite that she called ''republicans, a threat to democracy'', if you want to increase turnout among your opponents it is exactly the kind of words you sould use.

Depending on the primary she could never run as herself. She might have to tack (or come across at least) slightly to the left of her views in the primary and emphasise her Blue Dog status in the general, not that it would affect the result much. At least that's what her campaign manager told her.

[Frenchrepublican]

My opinion is that she is going to run, there are few doubts about that, she is extremely opportunistic and is very ambitious, now Murphy is a massively overrated candidate (like most fake moderate democrats) and I could easily see her doing even a bit worse than the other Murphy (Pat). Also it is laughable how she is describing her district, yeah FL-7 was a R leaning district, before 2016, but in 2016 the liberal FL Supreme court redrawn the map and FL-7 went from being a Romney district to a Obama one, and since then the district has moved even more to the left, Biden/Nelson/Gillum all won it by double digits despite losing the state, so the idea that this district is a microcosm of the state as whole is ridiculous.

Also I'm not sure what exactly her strategy is, she would run in a Trump carried state which has trended to the right and which is now 8 points to the right of the country, despite that she called ''republicans, a threat to democracy'', if you want to increase turnout among your opponents it is exactly the kind of words you sould use.

Depending on the primary she could never run as herself. She might have to tack (or come across at least) slightly to the left of her views in the primary and emphasise her Blue Dog status in the general, not that it would affect the result much. At least that's what her campaign manager told her.

The issue with a such strategy is that the Rubio campaign would then happily use these words against her in the general election, it would come back hurt her.

[ElectionsGuy]

Rubio is going to face another rising star Murphy from a 'swing district'? The simulation is broken.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Rubio is gonna win game over

[LabourJersey]

lazy, reductive #analysis in this thread — Puerto Ricans & Mexicans don't have any reason to care about communism but you saw the same movement in Immokalee and in Kissimmee that you saw in Doralzuela

I think people have been focusing too much on the socialism attack and too little on:

1) Democrats not doing traditional GOTV in minority areas,

2) Democrats being presented as the "Hard Lockdown" group that endangered people's jobs

3) Trump riding good will from the strong pre-2020 economy and the stimulus checks.

In a Nov. 2022 situation where Problem 1 is gone and Problems 2 and 3 are forgotten or muted, I think Republicans' advantages with Hispanics is going to dissipate. Not enough to win FL-SEN, but certainly better than in 2020

[_.]

Per Wikipedia, Marco Rubio has announced on Facebook that he will run again.

Can any Democrat make this competitive?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Corrine Brown

No lol

Debbie Wasserman Schultz would lose by 50 and I'd be right there voting against her.

[UWS]

Per Wikipedia, Marco Rubio has announced on Facebook that he will run again.

Can any Democrat make this competitive?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Corrine Brown

No lol

Debbie Wasserman Schultz would lose by 50 and I'd be right there voting against her.

As for Brown, she has too much baggage, including her felony fraud conviction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Political_controversies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Felony_fraud_conviction

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Per Wikipedia, Marco Rubio has announced on Facebook that he will run again.

Can any Democrat make this competitive?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Corrine Brown

No lol

Debbie Wasserman Schultz would lose by 50 and I'd be right there voting against her.

As for Brown, she has too much baggage, including her felony fraud conviction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Political_controversies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Felony_fraud_conviction

Corrine Brown is a FL Dem-style bad outcome just waiting to happen, if she gets the nod for a statewide run.

[Calthrina950]

Per Wikipedia, Marco Rubio has announced on Facebook that he will run again.

Can any Democrat make this competitive?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Corrine Brown

No lol

Debbie Wasserman Schultz would lose by 50 and I'd be right there voting against her.

As for Brown, she has too much baggage, including her felony fraud conviction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Political_controversies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Felony_fraud_conviction

Corrine Brown is a FL Dem-style bad outcome just waiting to happen, if she gets the nod for a statewide run.

Brown's legal troubles are why she lost her seat to Al Lawson in 2016. And during her time in Congress, she was one of the most ignorant and self-serving Representatives. I recall watching a YouTube clip of her infamous "Go Gators" speech on the House floor from about a decade or so ago. Her political career is finished, and if she were somehow the Democratic nominee, she would lose by close to double digits.

[Roronoa D. Law]

Per Wikipedia, Marco Rubio has announced on Facebook that he will run again.

Can any Democrat make this competitive?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Corrine Brown

No lol

Debbie Wasserman Schultz would lose by 50 and I'd be right there voting against her.

As for Brown, she has too much baggage, including her felony fraud conviction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Political_controversies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Felony_fraud_conviction

I don't know I think her wig can give Rubio a run for his money.

[SnowLabrador]

Per Wikipedia, Marco Rubio has announced on Facebook that he will run again.

Can any Democrat make this competitive?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Corrine Brown

No lol

Debbie Wasserman Schultz would lose by 50 and I'd be right there voting against her.

As for Brown, she has too much baggage, including her felony fraud conviction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Political_controversies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Felony_fraud_conviction

Corrine Brown is a FL Dem-style bad outcome just waiting to happen, if she gets the nod for a statewide run.

Brown's legal troubles are why she lost her seat to Al Lawson in 2016. And during her time in Congress, she was one of the most ignorant and self-serving Representatives. I recall watching a YouTube clip of her infamous "Go Gators" speech on the House floor from about a decade or so ago. Her political career is finished, and if she were somehow the Democratic nominee, she would lose by close to double digits.

She would lose by double digits. It's a very good thing that she won't be our nominee.

[beesley]

Per Wikipedia, Marco Rubio has announced on Facebook that he will run again.

Can any Democrat make this competitive?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Corrine Brown

No lol

Debbie Wasserman Schultz would lose by 50 and I'd be right there voting against her.

As for Brown, she has too much baggage, including her felony fraud conviction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Political_controversies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Felony_fraud_conviction

Corrine Brown is a FL Dem-style bad outcome just waiting to happen, if she gets the nod for a statewide run.

Brown's legal troubles are why she lost her seat to Al Lawson in 2016. And during her time in Congress, she was one of the most ignorant and self-serving Representatives. I recall watching a YouTube clip of her infamous "Go Gators" speech on the House floor from about a decade or so ago. Her political career is finished, and if she were somehow the Democratic nominee, she would lose by close to double digits.

For what it's worth Al Lawson would be a (nowhere near as) bad nominee.

[Dereich]

Per Wikipedia, Marco Rubio has announced on Facebook that he will run again.

Can any Democrat make this competitive?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Corrine Brown

No lol

Debbie Wasserman Schultz would lose by 50 and I'd be right there voting against her.

As for Brown, she has too much baggage, including her felony fraud conviction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Political_controversies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Felony_fraud_conviction

Corrine Brown is a FL Dem-style bad outcome just waiting to happen, if she gets the nod for a statewide run.

Brown's legal troubles are why she lost her seat to Al Lawson in 2016. And during her time in Congress, she was one of the most ignorant and self-serving Representatives. I recall watching a YouTube clip of her infamous "Go Gators" speech on the House floor from about a decade or so ago. Her political career is finished, and if she were somehow the Democratic nominee, she would lose by close to double digits.

She would lose by double digits. It's a very good thing that she won't be our nominee.

Corrine could no longer even win her old district's primary. No chance she could win a primary.

[lfromnj]

Per Wikipedia, Marco Rubio has announced on Facebook that he will run again.

Can any Democrat make this competitive?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Corrine Brown

No lol

Debbie Wasserman Schultz would lose by 50 and I'd be right there voting against her.

As for Brown, she has too much baggage, including her felony fraud conviction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Political_controversies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown#Felony_fraud_conviction

Corrine Brown is a FL Dem-style bad outcome just waiting to happen, if she gets the nod for a statewide run.

Brown's legal troubles are why she lost her seat to Al Lawson in 2016. And during her time in Congress, she was one of the most ignorant and self-serving Representatives. I recall watching a YouTube clip of her infamous "Go Gators" speech on the House floor from about a decade or so ago. Her political career is finished, and if she were somehow the Democratic nominee, she would lose by close to double digits.

Redistricting also killed her because the FL supreme court made a decision stating that an Orlando to Jacksonville district was absurd(100% True) and then promptly made a Tallahassee to Jacksonville district(nearly as absurd)

[brucejoel99]

LMAO at even the mere implication that a Corrine Brown run is even remotely possible.