Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[Hindsight was 2020]

Ah, the Kremlin shills are out in force tonight

A reminder of who they simp for
https://twitter.com/gwarworin/status/1761663941996945610?s=12

It's too bad you guys doctored the Russian video by taking out the subtitles, because it's pretty ignorant to remove the context form the post.  The soldier they hit is allegedly an American Mercenary that they mocked for coming to Ukraine "to shoot Russians".  I don't really understand why you're crying about captured soldiers that aren't going to be killed.  I'd be happy not to die.     

Mock executions are war crimes you sociopath

[Storr]

"⚡️For the first time since start of Russia's full-scale invasion, President Zelensky has given an official figure for the number of Ukrainian troops killed: 31,000. He did not state the number of wounded. Doesn't count Ukraine's ~4,400 troops killed in the Donbas between 2014-21.

US estimates last autumn put the number of Ukrainian soldiers killed around 70,000, or roughly double what Zelensky claimed at his press conference in Kyiv today."

https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1761781481657999633?s=20

[jaichind]

"⚡️For the first time since start of Russia's full-scale invasion, President Zelensky has given an official figure for the number of Ukrainian troops killed: 31,000. He did not state the number of wounded. Doesn't count Ukraine's ~4,400 troops killed in the Donbas between 2014-21.

US estimates last autumn put the number of Ukrainian soldiers killed around 70,000, or roughly double what Zelensky claimed at his press conference in Kyiv today."

https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1761781481657999633?s=20

I think a lot of Ukraine KIA are labeled as MIA.  Part of the reason other than for PR reasons is so the Ukraien government does not have to pay families of those KIA.  What Zelensky should do is also announce MIA.  I will be very interested in trying to square Ukraine's KIA, MIA, planned demobilization plus how much they want to mobilize.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Ah, the Kremlin shills are out in force tonight

A reminder of who they simp for
https://twitter.com/gwarworin/status/1761663941996945610?s=12

It's too bad you guys doctored the Russian video by taking out the subtitles, because it's pretty ignorant to remove the context form the post.  The soldier they hit is allegedly an American Mercenary that they mocked for coming to Ukraine "to shoot Russians".  I don't really understand why you're crying about captured soldiers that aren't going to be killed.  I'd be happy not to die.      

Mock executions are war crimes you sociopath

Not sure mock executions are worth mentioning here when they are yet again releasing actual POW execution videos. These discourage surrender; even the cruel would not record and publish them if they were not also stupid.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Ah, the Kremlin shills are out in force tonight

A reminder of who they simp for
https://twitter.com/gwarworin/status/1761663941996945610?s=12

It's too bad you guys doctored the Russian video by taking out the subtitles, because it's pretty ignorant to remove the context form the post.  The soldier they hit is allegedly an American Mercenary that they mocked for coming to Ukraine "to shoot Russians".  I don't really understand why you're crying about captured soldiers that aren't going to be killed.  I'd be happy not to die.      

Mock executions are war crimes you sociopath

Not sure mock executions are worth mentioning here when they are yet again releasing actual POW execution videos. These discourage surrender; even the cruel would not record and publish them if they were not also stupid.

I know but for obvious tos reasons I can’t post much about them other than state they happened and are circling social media

[Hollywood]

Ah, the Kremlin shills are out in force tonight

A reminder of who they simp for
https://twitter.com/gwarworin/status/1761663941996945610?s=12

It's too bad you guys doctored the Russian video by taking out the subtitles, because it's pretty ignorant to remove the context form the post.  The soldier they hit is allegedly an American Mercenary that they mocked for coming to Ukraine "to shoot Russians".  I don't really understand why you're crying about captured soldiers that aren't going to be killed.  I'd be happy not to die.      

Mock executions are war crimes you sociopath

Not sure mock executions are worth mentioning here when they are yet again releasing actual POW execution videos. These discourage surrender; even the cruel would not record and publish them if they were not also stupid.

Thank You.  I don't understand why everything has to be a nasty fight.  Not everything has to be an attack.  In the context of the entire war, what the hell is the point of exaggerating this instance of violent behavior?  There's nothing notable in the video.  The only important part of the video (Group of American Prisoners) is only beneficial to the Russians.  Bet Ukr. supportes are putting it everywhere on the net.  

[Horus]

I think we've found who one of the two votes for "Israel/Russia supporter" in that poll last month was.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

"⚡️For the first time since start of Russia's full-scale invasion, President Zelensky has given an official figure for the number of Ukrainian troops killed: 31,000. He did not state the number of wounded. Doesn't count Ukraine's ~4,400 troops killed in the Donbas between 2014-21.

US estimates last autumn put the number of Ukrainian soldiers killed around 70,000, or roughly double what Zelensky claimed at his press conference in Kyiv today."

https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1761781481657999633?s=20

I think a lot of Ukraine KIA are labeled as MIA.  Part of the reason other than for PR reasons is so the Ukraien government does not have to pay families of those KIA.  What Zelensky should do is also announce MIA.  I will be very interested in trying to square Ukraine's KIA, MIA, planned demobilization plus how much they want to mobilize.

That's certainly believable at least.

[GoTfan]

Ah, the Kremlin shills are out in force tonight

A reminder of who they simp for
https://twitter.com/gwarworin/status/1761663941996945610?s=12

It's too bad you guys doctored the Russian video by taking out the subtitles, because it's pretty ignorant to remove the context form the post.  The soldier they hit is allegedly an American Mercenary that they mocked for coming to Ukraine "to shoot Russians".  I don't really understand why you're crying about captured soldiers that aren't going to be killed.  I'd be happy not to die.     

Mock executions are war crimes you sociopath

Go ahead and charge them you moron.  Go ahead and charge the Ukrainians that shot unarmed civilians in the street based on claims that they were 'Russian Collaborators'. We can have Amnesty International investigate both sides, and then you sociopaths can attack that organization when they conclude that both Ukraine and Russia are guilty.  

And you'd understand that this is not a mock execution if you actually watched the video.  They are being held as prisoners, and displayed on camera as propaganda for the Russians.  They weren't going to be killed.  In fact, Russia wanted you guys to post that video cause its their video of American POWs.  

Why are you simping for Russia?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Ah, the Kremlin shills are out in force tonight

A reminder of who they simp for
https://twitter.com/gwarworin/status/1761663941996945610?s=12

It's too bad you guys doctored the Russian video by taking out the subtitles, because it's pretty ignorant to remove the context form the post.  The soldier they hit is allegedly an American Mercenary that they mocked for coming to Ukraine "to shoot Russians".  I don't really understand why you're crying about captured soldiers that aren't going to be killed.  I'd be happy not to die.     

So?

Russia started it. That's the only reason he could shoot Russians in a country that's not Russia.

[Hollywood]

Ah, the Kremlin shills are out in force tonight

A reminder of who they simp for
https://twitter.com/gwarworin/status/1761663941996945610?s=12

It's too bad you guys doctored the Russian video by taking out the subtitles, because it's pretty ignorant to remove the context form the post.  The soldier they hit is allegedly an American Mercenary that they mocked for coming to Ukraine "to shoot Russians".  I don't really understand why you're crying about captured soldiers that aren't going to be killed.  I'd be happy not to die.     

Mock executions are war crimes you sociopath

Go ahead and charge them you moron.  Go ahead and charge the Ukrainians that shot unarmed civilians in the street based on claims that they were 'Russian Collaborators'. We can have Amnesty International investigate both sides, and then you sociopaths can attack that organization when they conclude that both Ukraine and Russia are guilty.  

And you'd understand that this is not a mock execution if you actually watched the video.  They are being held as prisoners, and displayed on camera as propaganda for the Russians.  They weren't going to be killed.  In fact, Russia wanted you guys to post that video cause its their video of American POWs.  

Why are you simping for Russia?

Why are you assuming that I'm simping for Russia.  I'm sharing facts and my opinions.  You guys moronically shared a Ukrainian-doctored video that Russians wanted you guys to share, because there are American POWs. The dumbest part about the post is the concoction of this 'mock execution' narrative.  Don't blame for your erroneous decisions.  I saw the same videos dozens of times, and chose not to post cause it was Russian propaganda in which out country men are being humiliated.  

[Hollywood]

Ah, the Kremlin shills are out in force tonight

A reminder of who they simp for
https://twitter.com/gwarworin/status/1761663941996945610?s=12

It's too bad you guys doctored the Russian video by taking out the subtitles, because it's pretty ignorant to remove the context form the post.  The soldier they hit is allegedly an American Mercenary that they mocked for coming to Ukraine "to shoot Russians".  I don't really understand why you're crying about captured soldiers that aren't going to be killed.  I'd be happy not to die.     

So?

Russia started it. That's the only reason he could shoot Russians in a country that's not Russia.

Okay.  So Russia started it?  We all know Russia started a war with Ukraine.  I'm not defending Russia.  I'm not saying Americans should or shouldn't be in Russia.  Russia is making that point.  They're doing it for a reason.  I'm actually helping you guys.  Stop drawing attention to it, because American POWs are great props in a Russian propaganda video.  Why is this the only forum where Democrats are getting it. lol.  Echo Chamber.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Also American mercenaries/foreign legion volunteers aren’t denied the same rights as other soldiers don’t know why Hollywood thinks these guys being Americans means Russians can do a mock execution on them

[Hollywood]

Also American mercenaries/foreign legion volunteers aren’t denied the same rights as other soldiers don’t know why Hollywood thinks these guys being Americans means Russians can do a mock execution on them

I don't why you think I said they don't have the same rights.  Red Herring.  I guess it's just impossible for Ukr. supporters to back-off from a stupid argument. 

And do you know how many videos I've seen like this from both sides in the war.  That's war.  And nobody is going to be shocked by Russians roughing up a bunch of soldiers and threatening to kill them in the heat of the moment.  The fact that they were American only helped spread Russian propaganda that 1) Americans are fighting in Ukraine, 2) we defeated them on the battlefield, 3) captured them, and 4) parade them on camera to inspire more enemies of America to help us out.     

[jaichind]

https://time.com/6695261/ukraine-forever-war-danger/

"Ukraine Can’t Win the War"



Yes, Ukraine cannot win the war in the sense that 1991 or even 2022 borders are no longer possible. But there is every reason to believe they can avoid losing the war.

[jaichind]

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240225-zelensky-says-ukraine-s-counteroffensive-plans-leaked-to-russia

"Zelensky says Ukraine’s counteroffensive plans leaked to Russia"



If this is true then why is Budanov not fired ?

[jaichind]

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3831576-stoltenberg-ukraine-will-join-nato-its-not-a-question-of-if-but-of-when.html

"Stoltenberg: Ukraine will join NATO – it's not a question of if but of when"

This talk of Ukraine joining NATO "eventually" sounds a lot like the man telling his mistress he will divorce his wife any day now.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://time.com/6695261/ukraine-forever-war-danger/

"Ukraine Can’t Win the War"



Yes, Ukraine cannot win the war in the sense that 1991 or even 2022 borders are no longer possible. But there is every reason to believe they can avoid losing the war.

These thinkpieces show that the press are willing to try to profit from selling doom. If there's not enough evidence for that already.

[Hollywood]

https://time.com/6695261/ukraine-forever-war-danger/

"Ukraine Can’t Win the War"



Yes, Ukraine cannot win the war in the sense that 1991 or even 2022 borders are no longer possible. But there is every reason to believe they can avoid losing the war.

These thinkpieces show that the press are willing to try to profit from selling doom. If there's not enough evidence for that already.

Huh? All I see is evidence that ignorant neocon and leftists lose their minds when anyone has a different narrative with your own.  It's PBS?  That's a government nonprofit Organization, so your assumption of their motivation is completely wrong.      

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://time.com/6695261/ukraine-forever-war-danger/

"Ukraine Can’t Win the War"



Yes, Ukraine cannot win the war in the sense that 1991 or even 2022 borders are no longer possible. But there is every reason to believe they can avoid losing the war.

These thinkpieces show that the press are willing to try to profit from selling doom. If there's not enough evidence for that already.

Huh? All I see is evidence that ignorant neocon and leftists lose their minds when anyone has a different narrative with your own.  It's PBS?  That's a government nonprofit Organization, so your assumption of their motivation is completely wrong.      

Well, I would say the press narrative surrounding this war has never tracked with reality no matter who was winning.

[jaichind]

https://time.com/6695261/ukraine-forever-war-danger/

"Ukraine Can’t Win the War"

Yes, Ukraine cannot win the war in the sense that 1991 or even 2022 borders are no longer possible. But there is every reason to believe they can avoid losing the war.

These thinkpieces show that the press are willing to try to profit from selling doom. If there's not enough evidence for that already.

I think the purpose of the article is to push for NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine.

[Woody]

https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1762109538499506399

[CumbrianLefty]

I think we've found who one of the two votes for "Israel/Russia supporter" in that poll last month was.

Almost without exception, the very worst sort of people.

[Open Source Intelligence]

https://time.com/6695261/ukraine-forever-war-danger/

"Ukraine Can’t Win the War"



Yes, Ukraine cannot win the war in the sense that 1991 or even 2022 borders are no longer possible. But there is every reason to believe they can avoid losing the war.

These thinkpieces show that the press are willing to try to profit from selling doom. If there's not enough evidence for that already.

That's not how this works. Stuff like this doesn't get written unless high-up people in government are already whispering it to them. You can throw in to that also op-eds from connected folks in the New York Times and Washington Post.

[Open Source Intelligence]

https://time.com/6695261/ukraine-forever-war-danger/

"Ukraine Can’t Win the War"



Yes, Ukraine cannot win the war in the sense that 1991 or even 2022 borders are no longer possible. But there is every reason to believe they can avoid losing the war.

These thinkpieces show that the press are willing to try to profit from selling doom. If there's not enough evidence for that already.

Huh? All I see is evidence that ignorant neocon and leftists lose their minds when anyone has a different narrative with your own.  It's PBS?  That's a government nonprofit Organization, so your assumption of their motivation is completely wrong.      

Well, I would say the press narrative surrounding this war has never tracked with reality no matter who was winning.

Fair.