Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[Badger]

Are the moderators just going to leave up a post where a poster fantasises about choking and f****** a woman then?

It’s war. War means there is a period of time when two classes of people whose needs and survival have been determined to be exclusively relevant. During that time, one group lies outside the moral community of that  group inasmuch beyond whatever obligations outside classes universally impose upon them. In layman’s terms,     your feelings.

What does this (vaguely Schmittian) screed have to do with the lurid fantasies of an American keyboard warrior then? Is he risking life and limb on the frontline against the Ruskies? What do these contributions add to the thread?

I guess he isn’t allowed to be angry, then. There is a time and place for everything.

No he’s not. He’s a grown man (a fair bit above the average age on this forum as far as I can tell), who lives thousands of miles away from the conflict zone, a conflict zone that, I assume, he has never been to. If you want a thread of threnodies and torture porn then do it somewhere else.

Clutch them pearls harder! I'm so sorry that my outrage over the war crimes in genocide of Russians apparently offends you more then said war crimes themselves. I've contributed money to the Ukrainian cause which is, just like you, about as much support as I can do other than online gestures of support and utter wishing of ill will upon russians. I readily admit it's not much in a big scheme, but it's more than you're doing.

So yes, I hope the Russian collaborator dies of her assassination attempt wounds. I admit perhaps it was a bit sadistic to wish it'd be a painful death. I just want her dead like every other Russian and active collaborator. Let's get real, Ukrainian resistance sought her death for a reason.

[rc18]

On a lighter note, we have the first official comments from the Ukrainian tractor brigades.

This farmer found 3 abandoned T-80s at Trostyanets [These probably come from a Russian elite 'Guards' unit that was based there]. Despite not knowing much about tanks, "mechanics is mechanics" and he managed to get one started, and towed the other two. He wanted to keep one of them, but he's upset the meanies of the 93rd Brigade came and took them all away. Ends with the wistful line "I will remember them". I guess that could be about the tanks or the soldiers.

I suggest we start a petition to get this man his tank back.

https://twitter.com/ZloyAtoshnik/status/1569368337884274699?s=20&t=RF9kPPKVw...

Wait a minute. Is the 93rd Brigade Russian or ukrainian? Is he mad at a Ukrainian unit for recovering the tanks?

Ukrainian. He's complaining, in a wryly humorous way, that they didn't even leave him one.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Are the moderators just going to leave up a post where a poster fantasises about choking and f****** a woman then?

It’s war. War means there is a period of time when two classes of people whose needs and survival have been determined to be exclusively relevant. During that time, one group lies outside the moral community of that  group inasmuch beyond whatever obligations outside classes universally impose upon them. In layman’s terms,     your feelings.

What does this (vaguely Schmittian) screed have to do with the lurid fantasies of an American keyboard warrior then? Is he risking life and limb on the frontline against the Ruskies? What do these contributions add to the thread?

I guess he isn’t allowed to be angry, then. There is a time and place for everything.

No he’s not. He’s a grown man (a fair bit above the average age on this forum as far as I can tell), who lives thousands of miles away from the conflict zone, a conflict zone that, I assume, he has never been to. If you want a thread of threnodies and torture porn then do it somewhere else.

I disagree. Am I allowed to disagree?

Dude. You're making me agree with the literal paid Russia shill. Please chill out.

It's okay to be outraged at what Russia has done to Ukraine (in fact we all ought to be!), but that's no excuse for indulging in dehumanization and calling for gratuitous violence beyond what is tangibly helpful for Ukraine's cause. None of us are currently fighting right now, and while we can be angry, putting our own emotional needs front and center is frankly disrespectful to the countless Ukrainians who are keeping a steady resolve in the face of adversities we can scarcely imagine. These Ukrainian heroes are fighting for many things, but one of the things they're fighting for is a world where the rule of law prevails over the whims of bloodthirsty brutes. Part of honoring them is not acting like the latter.

[DINGO Joe]

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1569623630388273153

Both sides!!!

[Storr]

Thank you Russia:

https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1569359928694902786?s=20

https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1569468358546059264?s=20

[Logical]

I'm quite certain that Ukrainian soldiers fighting in the trenches are more humane to their Russian captives than some keyboard warriors.

[Badger]

I'm quite certain that Ukrainian soldiers fighting in the trenches are more humane to their Russian captives than some keyboard warriors.

This "keyboard warrior" has never and will never urge abuse of surrendered Russians. I merely, justifiably, cheer the assassination of collaborators helping Putin's genocide machine, and without apology.

[Woody]

I think Badger needs to take a timeout for a while from the thread. It's clear he's very sentimental right now to think rationally. Don't worry man, we got your back.

[Badger]

I think Badger needs to take a timeout for a while. It's clear he's very sentimental right now to think rationally. Don't worry man, we got your back.

To the irony ore mine, Stat!

Begone, troll.

[Person Man]

I'm quite certain that Ukrainian soldiers fighting in the trenches are more humane to their Russian captives than some keyboard warriors.

This "keyboard warrior" has never and will never urge abuse of surrendered Russians. I merely, justifiably, cheer the assassination of collaborators helping Putin's genocide machine, and without apology.

This. Agreeing with people be subjected to the consequences of their actions as adults is not the same of whatever else that may be insinuated.

[Torie]

I used to be very proud of this thread, the information provided and all the hard work that went into providing it, the good humor, all of it. It became one of the mostly useful compendiums  of information on the internets. Thus the  above is particularly disappointing to me. Please stop. Thank you.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I used to be very proud of this thread, the information provided and all the hard work that went into providing it, the good humor, all of it. It became one of the mostly useful compendiums  of information on the internets. Thus the  above is particularly disappointing to me. Please stop. Thank you.

Yeah, seriously. This helps absolutely no one.

[Joe Republic]

Are the moderators just going to leave up a post where a poster fantasises about choking and f****** a woman then?

I will have to reprimand the mods and myself for not waking up every hour, on the hour, to check for inappropriate posts made after midnight.

Just deduct a day's wages from each of your moderator paychecks, and that should suffice.

[Cassius]

Are the moderators just going to leave up a post where a poster fantasises about choking and f****** a woman then?

It’s war. War means there is a period of time when two classes of people whose needs and survival have been determined to be exclusively relevant. During that time, one group lies outside the moral community of that  group inasmuch beyond whatever obligations outside classes universally impose upon them. In layman’s terms,     your feelings.

What does this (vaguely Schmittian) screed have to do with the lurid fantasies of an American keyboard warrior then? Is he risking life and limb on the frontline against the Ruskies? What do these contributions add to the thread?

I guess he isn’t allowed to be angry, then. There is a time and place for everything.

No he’s not. He’s a grown man (a fair bit above the average age on this forum as far as I can tell), who lives thousands of miles away from the conflict zone, a conflict zone that, I assume, he has never been to. If you want a thread of threnodies and torture porn then do it somewhere else.

Clutch them pearls harder! I'm so sorry that my outrage over the war crimes in genocide of Russians apparently offends you more then said war crimes themselves. I've contributed money to the Ukrainian cause which is, just like you, about as much support as I can do other than online gestures of support and utter wishing of ill will upon russians. I readily admit it's not much in a big scheme, but it's more than you're doing.

So yes, I hope the Russian collaborator dies of her assassination attempt wounds. I admit perhaps it was a bit sadistic to wish it'd be a painful death. I just want her dead like every other Russian and active collaborator. Let's get real, Ukrainian resistance sought her death for a reason.

Sounds a bit… genocidal?

[Storr]

AFU victory over rasputiza:

https://twitter.com/PaulJawin/status/1569599513815404546?s=20&t=z6TN86oRYCdE...

[Person Man]

Are the moderators just going to leave up a post where a poster fantasises about choking and f****** a woman then?

It’s war. War means there is a period of time when two classes of people whose needs and survival have been determined to be exclusively relevant. During that time, one group lies outside the moral community of that  group inasmuch beyond whatever obligations outside classes universally impose upon them. In layman’s terms,     your feelings.

What does this (vaguely Schmittian) screed have to do with the lurid fantasies of an American keyboard warrior then? Is he risking life and limb on the frontline against the Ruskies? What do these contributions add to the thread?

I guess he isn’t allowed to be angry, then. There is a time and place for everything.

No he’s not. He’s a grown man (a fair bit above the average age on this forum as far as I can tell), who lives thousands of miles away from the conflict zone, a conflict zone that, I assume, he has never been to. If you want a thread of threnodies and torture porn then do it somewhere else.

Clutch them pearls harder! I'm so sorry that my outrage over the war crimes in genocide of Russians apparently offends you more then said war crimes themselves. I've contributed money to the Ukrainian cause which is, just like you, about as much support as I can do other than online gestures of support and utter wishing of ill will upon russians. I readily admit it's not much in a big scheme, but it's more than you're doing.

So yes, I hope the Russian collaborator dies of her assassination attempt wounds. I admit perhaps it was a bit sadistic to wish it'd be a painful death. I just want her dead like every other Russian and active collaborator. Let's get real, Ukrainian resistance sought her death for a reason.

Sounds a bit… genocidal?

Russian invaders who don’t repent.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Anyways let’s get the thread back on topic
https://mobile.twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1569728983083671556

[Person Man]

Anyways let’s get the thread back on topic
https://mobile.twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1569728983083671556

So this paves the way for Kherson to be besieged.

[President Johnson]

Scholz (and Macron) can continue to do so, though I believe it's a waste of time.

https://twitter.com/Bundeskanzler/status/1569749922852835330

[Woody]

Anyways let’s get the thread back on topic
https://mobile.twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1569728983083671556

"Tweet deleted"

[Badger]

Are the moderators just going to leave up a post where a poster fantasises about choking and f****** a woman then?

It’s war. War means there is a period of time when two classes of people whose needs and survival have been determined to be exclusively relevant. During that time, one group lies outside the moral community of that  group inasmuch beyond whatever obligations outside classes universally impose upon them. In layman’s terms,     your feelings.

What does this (vaguely Schmittian) screed have to do with the lurid fantasies of an American keyboard warrior then? Is he risking life and limb on the frontline against the Ruskies? What do these contributions add to the thread?

I guess he isn’t allowed to be angry, then. There is a time and place for everything.

No he’s not. He’s a grown man (a fair bit above the average age on this forum as far as I can tell), who lives thousands of miles away from the conflict zone, a conflict zone that, I assume, he has never been to. If you want a thread of threnodies and torture porn then do it somewhere else.

I disagree. Am I allowed to disagree?

Dude. You're making me agree with the literal paid Russia shill. Please chill out.

It's okay to be outraged at what Russia has done to Ukraine (in fact we all ought to be!), but that's no excuse for indulging in dehumanization and calling for gratuitous violence beyond what is tangibly helpful for Ukraine's cause. None of us are currently fighting right now, and while we can be angry, putting our own emotional needs front and center is frankly disrespectful to the countless Ukrainians who are keeping a steady resolve in the face of adversities we can scarcely imagine. These Ukrainian heroes are fighting for many things, but one of the things they're fighting for is a world where the rule of law prevails over the whims of bloodthirsty brutes. Part of honoring them is not acting like the latter.

In my humble opinion, wishing death upon a Ukrainian collaborator with Putin's war machine is not gratuitous. Okay, I'll admit that my hoping she died painfully after her wounds was a bit so, but let's not overreact.

[Badger]

Are the moderators just going to leave up a post where a poster fantasises about choking and f****** a woman then?

It’s war. War means there is a period of time when two classes of people whose needs and survival have been determined to be exclusively relevant. During that time, one group lies outside the moral community of that  group inasmuch beyond whatever obligations outside classes universally impose upon them. In layman’s terms,     your feelings.

What does this (vaguely Schmittian) screed have to do with the lurid fantasies of an American keyboard warrior then? Is he risking life and limb on the frontline against the Ruskies? What do these contributions add to the thread?

I guess he isn’t allowed to be angry, then. There is a time and place for everything.

No he’s not. He’s a grown man (a fair bit above the average age on this forum as far as I can tell), who lives thousands of miles away from the conflict zone, a conflict zone that, I assume, he has never been to. If you want a thread of threnodies and torture porn then do it somewhere else.

Clutch them pearls harder! I'm so sorry that my outrage over the war crimes in genocide of Russians apparently offends you more then said war crimes themselves. I've contributed money to the Ukrainian cause which is, just like you, about as much support as I can do other than online gestures of support and utter wishing of ill will upon russians. I readily admit it's not much in a big scheme, but it's more than you're doing.

So yes, I hope the Russian collaborator dies of her assassination attempt wounds. I admit perhaps it was a bit sadistic to wish it'd be a painful death. I just want her dead like every other Russian and active collaborator. Let's get real, Ukrainian resistance sought her death for a reason.

Sounds a bit… genocidal?

Sorry, my voice to text app apparently skipped over the word "soldier" after the word Russian.

[Person Man]

Looks like more Russian assets have been “liquidated” in Ukraine than Americans killed in Vietnam. Combined with those they claim have injured, it looks like the initial invading force might have been beaten already. I wonder how many Russians are on the lines rn.

[Frodo]

Putin really does not want to knock the hornets' nest, does he? 

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1569715072376651777

[Middle-aged Europe]

Putin really does not want to knock the hornets' nest, does he? 

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1569715072376651777

They wouldn't want this to become Putin's Vietnam any more than it need to be.