Biden infrastructure/tax increase megathread

[Unbeatable Titan Susan Collins]

https://twitter.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1435420464046870530https://twitter.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1435420464046870530

[Person Man]

https://twitter.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1435420464046870530https://twitter.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1435420464046870530

So from 5 to 3 trillion in total?

[Devils30]

Of course they can settle at 2.5 trillion

[Ancestral Republican]

Why even be a Democrat if all you want to do is block everything that would help Americans, and suck on the AFP donation teat? You're absolutely pathetic. All we can do now is elect Fetterman and Barnes and remove this idiot's ability to singlehandedly control the direction of this country.

[MillennialModerate]

Still waiting for the know it all’s who insist Manchin comes around on everything ….. haven’t heard a chirp out of them. Surprise surprise

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Why even be a Democrat if all you want to do is block everything that would help Americans, and suck on the AFP donation teat? You're absolutely pathetic. All we can do now is elect Fetterman and Barnes and remove this idiot's ability to singlehandedly control the direction of this country.
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.we have a 33 T deficit , Obama raised it from 10 to 20 T deficits didn't matter pre Pandemic that's why Trump gotten away from his tax cuts, but they do now

[Sir Mohamed]

The dude is just annoying.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1435577680003584016

[Inmate Trump]

After we lose the majority in both the House and the Senate, Manchin and Sinema must be expelled from the party.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

After we lose the majority in both the House and the Senate, Manchin and Sinema must be expelled from the party.

They're not gonna be expelled, the D's have excellent Senate maps to reclaim Majority in both Houses by 2026, D's aren't gonna be in Majority forevermore unless Covid was Eradicated and Biden hasn't delivered on it, not has he delivered on his promise to Prosecute Trump, FBI which is connected with DOJ cleared Trump to run for office they n 2024

Both parties have failed to win 3 elections in a row 2006/2010 for D's and 2014-2018 for Rs and now 2018-2012 for Ds

Don't forget D's thought they were gonna win OH, MO and NJ in 2010 when Rs retired and Fisher, Carnahan FAILED

[Pres Mike]

Democrats are throwing out ideas to expand Medicaid in red states that did not join

From my understanding of the Supreme Court case, the federal states can not require states to join the Medicaid expansion if they pay part of it? Right now, the federal goverment pays roughly 90% of the Medicaid expansion from the ACA

If I understand this correctly, if the government pays 100% they can force states to have Medicaid expansion correct?

[Frodo]

Damn the torpedoes!

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1435691597136601095

[Person Man]

Damn the torpedoes!

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1435691597136601095

They have to push forward and get what they get.

[pppolitics]

https://twitter.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1435420464046870530https://twitter.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1435420464046870530

Democrats should accept 1.75T.

Manchin can then go home and say that he drove a hard bargain.

[Sir Mohamed]

I honestly doubt this number is remotely accurate. "No Labels" is a fraud that pushes the lame "both sides" narrative.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1435951140781309953

[Person Man]

I honestly doubt this number is remotely accurate. "No Labels" is a fraud that pushes the lame "both sides" narrative.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1435951140781309953

That's a push poll if I've never seen one before. They are basically pro-immigration conservatives, right?

[roxas11]

I honestly doubt this number is remotely accurate. "No Labels" is a fraud that pushes the lame "both sides" narrative.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1435951140781309953

I don't understand why any Dem in their right mind thinks that a strategic pause is a good idea. There is nothing strategic about waiting around and dragging things out while failing to pass anything before 2022.

That's not strategic its political suicide

The Dems barely have a majority in the senate and a lot of those senators are not getting any younger, so if the Dems are going to attempt to pass their agenda now is the time to do it because there is no guarantee whatsoever that they will even have a majority a few weeks from now let alone after the midterms


The dems dont need need a silly strategic pause
They need to start putting some wins on the board and actually start to pass the agenda that they ran on in 2020.

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1435992239252049920?s=20

I strongly dislike this man. I can understand his dumb centrist brain thinking low corporate taxes are good for the economy or whatever, but what the hell is his rationale for reducing pre-k eligibility? Just cruelty.

[Person Man]

https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1435992239252049920?s=20

I strongly dislike this man. I can understand his dumb centrist brain thinking low corporate taxes are good for the economy or whatever, but what the hell is his rationale for reducing pre-k eligibility? Just cruelty.

Well, I can see it might be reasonable to give free services for those who can easily afford it. Maybe limit it to only families making less than 500% of poverty (100k for one child, 125 for two children, 150 for three or more children).

[President Johnson]

What can Biden and his allies relatically do to get the 3.5 trillion done? Especially clean energy standards and investments should not be taken out under any circumstances.

Vetoing the bipartisan infrastructure bill would probably backfire in public.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This bill can be Amended should Ds win the 2022 Midterms and D's know that, they should pass the infrastructure bill now, so Biden can have a win and push the Reconciliation package later.
It's mostly Medicare in the 3.T anyways and Seniors ad Disabled qualify for dual coverage due to fact Medicare doesn't pay but 70% Consumers pay 30%

D's are acting like Medicare with Dental coverage can't wait and Vision you gotta pay out of pocket for contacts and frames over 100 anyways


This isn't Covid Relief the urgency and anyways, Bernie and Warren wouldn't have stopped UBI payments, they would of continued or

But hopefully we get 53 votes and the H, the Rs are the ones that's against more checks Johnson blocked them twice

RO KHANNA said he was opened to more 300 and UBI payments, Biden is a blue dog that voted for Bankruptcy Reform and he wants people to work to start paying student loans back

[Person Man]

What can Biden and his allies relatically do to get the 3.5 trillion done? Especially clean energy standards and investments should not be taken out under any circumstances.

Vetoing the bipartisan infrastructure bill would probably backfire in public.

We’re not winning anyways if we don’t get it through.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

What can Biden and his allies relatically do to get the 3.5 trillion done? Especially clean energy standards and investments should not be taken out under any circumstances.

Vetoing the bipartisan infrastructure bill would probably backfire in public.

We’re not winning anyways if we don’t get it through.

What, yes we will win on Infrastructure MKE, Pitts, and Chi all need Infrastructure spending

Medicare is need for reform but it only covers 70% not 100% of the cost, there isn't any urgency of Medicare being updated, until after 1.2T is passed


It's a 304 map anyways, the South want their big oil and North want Green energy

In a 52/48 SEN and if we keep Sen, another infrastructure can passes

What moderates are saying let's pass infrastructure now, and wait later for spending

That's why Stephanie Murphy voted against it

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1435992239252049920?s=20
I strongly dislike this man. I can understand his dumb centrist brain thinking low corporate taxes are good for the economy or whatever, but what the hell is his rationale for reducing pre-k eligibility? Just cruelty.

But I thought Joe Manchin was very worried about teh budget and wanted a strategic pause, now he’s refusing pay-fors and wants to gut provisions. It’s almost like Joe Manchin isn’t acting in good faith.

I honestly doubt this number is remotely accurate. "No Labels" is a fraud that pushes the lame "both sides" narrative.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1435951140781309953

ABC/Wapo did at poll at roughly the same time with 51-39 in favor of the reconciliation package using relatively neutral, arguably unfavorable language (do you favor or oppose spending 3.5 trillion on social programs based on what you’ve heard or read) The No Labels poll asked whether respondents thought we needed 3.5 trillion in social welfare ‘right now’ or whether they thought Joe Manchin’s very thoughtful strategic pause was a good idea.

Notably, in the cross tabs, GOP respondents were basically the same in oppose/favor and pause/proceed, but Dems and indies switched over the pause side, presumably because it was being presented as now or later rather than yes or no. Which is pretty obviously what Joe Manchin’s No Labels sugar daddies wanted.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Manchin has made it very clear that he wants the 1.2T package passed before any Spending on Reconciliation, Pelosi whom botched the Stimulus last time wants two bills at the sametime, but the Senate is the final arbitor, due to Sinema Fillibuster

We need infrastructure spending, the Reconciliation can wait

Progressives think the House has the final say, but why can't the House enact VR by itself due to Filibuster

They're gonna run up against Xmas and Thanksgiving, it's not that far from the Holidays and there needs to be Infrastructure spending, Congress waste too much time on VR and it didn't pass anyways

At the same time these bills aren't stimulus checks, users spend alot of time on infrastructure, Stimulus checks are gone, I don't regret my vote in Primary, Bernie wouldn't have cut us off from these stimulus checks and Biden did

[Torie]

The Dem strategy utterly baffles me here. Manchin is not folding, and the Dems do not have the votes for anything over 2 trillion, if even that.  Their strategy seems designed to irritate Manchin, if anything, and heck, he may do a F you, and go down to 1 trillion. Then the Dems have a choice of either 1) getting nothing, with the infrastructure bill going down the tubes if the squad does their thing, in which event, the 2022 cycle will be a disaster for them, or 2) folding and looking like fools, with all that perfervid rhetoric, all hat and no cattle. If you don't have the votes, don't go there, pretending that you do. Take what you can, and wait for another day. McConnell knew what he was doing from the get-go. It appears that team Schumer did not.

I also view such massive spending as a risky scheme at present, given all the unknowns and wheels turning out there. I understand that the Dems wanted to seize the moment, and window of opportunity, that may close later and for a long time. They are doing it however without my support, but then obviously the last thing on their mind is my opinion about anything. Their loss, not mine! 

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/571605-manchin-sanders-set-for-clash-over-biden-spending-package