Biden infrastructure/tax increase megathread

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Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

[Not Me, Us]

I feel so disillusioned right now. Inaction by the Democrats have made me feel like not wanting to vote. What's the point?

Congressional Democrats should be ashamed that they allowed two Republicans to completely stall their agenda, and I won't shed any tears when they lose big in 2022. It is entirely their fault.

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Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

[pppolitics]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

[CookieDamage]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

[pppolitics]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

[CookieDamage]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

[pppolitics]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

[CookieDamage]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

So moderates running in conservative districts (not that many btw) hold the party hostage until they get only what they want and progressives keep having to compromise? Yeah that's a dysfunctional divided party, really bad that that's something you want.

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Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

Manchin is not winning re-election, he just should toe the party line and cash out with a nice job after 4 years, Cory Gardner understood this, which is why he just toed the party line for 6 years.

[pppolitics]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

So moderates running in conservative districts (not that many btw) hold the party hostage until they get only what they want and progressives keep having to compromise? Yeah that's a dysfunctional divided party, really bad that that's something you want.

No, what the so-called "progressives" are doing is holding the party hostage.

The moderates are just doing what they have to do to try to hold on to their seats.

[pppolitics]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

Manchin is not winning re-election, he just should toe the party line and cash out with a nice job after 4 years, Cory Gardner understood this, which is why he just toed the party line for 6 years.

He wasn't "supposed to win" last time.

[CookieDamage]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

So moderates running in conservative districts (not that many btw) hold the party hostage until they get only what they want and progressives keep having to compromise? Yeah that's a dysfunctional divided party, really bad that that's something you want.

No, what the so-called "progressives" are doing is holding the party hostage.

The moderates are just doing what they have to do to try to hold on to their seats.

If the moderates want to hold onto their seats they can allow the reconciliation bill to pass so they get both their moderate hero bipartisan bill and progressives get their reconciliation bill. Thus everyone wins. And everyone can go back to their districts with something sweet for their voters. Literally basic politics. Manchin is here threatening to blow it up FOR NO REASON considering he's toast in WV no matter what.

[CookieDamage]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

Manchin is not winning re-election, he just should toe the party line and cash out with a nice job after 4 years, Cory Gardner understood this, which is why he just toed the party line for 6 years.

He wasn't "supposed to win" last time.

He barely won in a midterm DEM wave year under a GOP pres. He's absolutely toast with a Republican at the top of the ballot during Bidens re-election which will probably see the GOP pres candidate winning by like 30 points. Don't be delusional.

[pppolitics]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

So moderates running in conservative districts (not that many btw) hold the party hostage until they get only what they want and progressives keep having to compromise? Yeah that's a dysfunctional divided party, really bad that that's something you want.

No, what the so-called "progressives" are doing is holding the party hostage.

The moderates are just doing what they have to do to try to hold on to their seats.

If the moderates want to hold onto their seats they can allow the reconciliation bill to pass so they get both their moderate hero bipartisan bill and progressives get their reconciliation bill. Thus everyone wins. And everyone can go back to their districts with something sweet for their voters. Literally basic politics. Manchin is here threatening to blow it up FOR NO REASON considering he's toast in WV no matter what.

The infrastructure bill has nothing to do with the reconciliation bill.

There is no reason for the "progressive" to hold the infrastructure bill hostage.

[pppolitics]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

Manchin is not winning re-election, he just should toe the party line and cash out with a nice job after 4 years, Cory Gardner understood this, which is why he just toed the party line for 6 years.

He wasn't "supposed to win" last time.

He barely won in a midterm DEM wave year under a GOP pres. He's absolutely toast with a Republican at the top of the ballot during Bidens re-election which will probably see the GOP pres candidate winning by like 30 points. Don't be delusional.

Who knows?

Maybe West Virginia loves the infrastructure bill so much that they elect Manchin again.

[pppolitics]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

So moderates running in conservative districts (not that many btw) hold the party hostage until they get only what they want and progressives keep having to compromise? Yeah that's a dysfunctional divided party, really bad that that's something you want.

No, what the so-called "progressives" are doing is holding the party hostage.

The moderates are just doing what they have to do to try to hold on to their seats.

If the moderates want to hold onto their seats they can allow the reconciliation bill to pass so they get both their moderate hero bipartisan bill and progressives get their reconciliation bill. Thus everyone wins. And everyone can go back to their districts with something sweet for their voters. Literally basic politics. Manchin is here threatening to blow it up FOR NO REASON considering he's toast in WV no matter what.

The infrastructure bill has nothing to do with the reconciliation bill.

There is no reason for the "progressive" to hold the infrastructure bill hostage.

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Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

So moderates running in conservative districts (not that many btw) hold the party hostage until they get only what they want and progressives keep having to compromise? Yeah that's a dysfunctional divided party, really bad that that's something you want.

No, what the so-called "progressives" are doing is holding the party hostage.

The moderates are just doing what they have to do to try to hold on to their seats.

If the moderates want to hold onto their seats they can allow the reconciliation bill to pass so they get both their moderate hero bipartisan bill and progressives get their reconciliation bill. Thus everyone wins. And everyone can go back to their districts with something sweet for their voters. Literally basic politics. Manchin is here threatening to blow it up FOR NO REASON considering he's toast in WV no matter what.

The infrastructure bill has nothing to do with the reconciliation bill.

There is no reason for the "progressive" to hold the infrastructure bill hostage.

There is a reason considering that if they didn't hold the infrastructure bill hostage Senate Dem moderates would abandon the reconciliation bill the second Biden signs the infrastructure bill.

[CookieDamage]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

Manchin is not winning re-election, he just should toe the party line and cash out with a nice job after 4 years, Cory Gardner understood this, which is why he just toed the party line for 6 years.

He wasn't "supposed to win" last time.

He barely won in a midterm DEM wave year under a GOP pres. He's absolutely toast with a Republican at the top of the ballot during Bidens re-election which will probably see the GOP pres candidate winning by like 30 points. Don't be delusional.

Who knows?

Maybe West Virginia loves the infrastructure bill so much that they elect Manchin again.

Maybe by rewarding him with *only* a 15% margin loss

[pppolitics]

Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

So moderates running in conservative districts (not that many btw) hold the party hostage until they get only what they want and progressives keep having to compromise? Yeah that's a dysfunctional divided party, really bad that that's something you want.

No, what the so-called "progressives" are doing is holding the party hostage.

The moderates are just doing what they have to do to try to hold on to their seats.

If the moderates want to hold onto their seats they can allow the reconciliation bill to pass so they get both their moderate hero bipartisan bill and progressives get their reconciliation bill. Thus everyone wins. And everyone can go back to their districts with something sweet for their voters. Literally basic politics. Manchin is here threatening to blow it up FOR NO REASON considering he's toast in WV no matter what.

The infrastructure bill has nothing to do with the reconciliation bill.

There is no reason for the "progressive" to hold the infrastructure bill hostage.

There is a reason considering that if they didn't hold the infrastructure bill hostage Senate Dem moderates would abandon the reconciliation bill the second Biden signs the infrastructure bill.

You are just making assumptions.

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Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

So moderates running in conservative districts (not that many btw) hold the party hostage until they get only what they want and progressives keep having to compromise? Yeah that's a dysfunctional divided party, really bad that that's something you want.

No, what the so-called "progressives" are doing is holding the party hostage.

The moderates are just doing what they have to do to try to hold on to their seats.

If the moderates want to hold onto their seats they can allow the reconciliation bill to pass so they get both their moderate hero bipartisan bill and progressives get their reconciliation bill. Thus everyone wins. And everyone can go back to their districts with something sweet for their voters. Literally basic politics. Manchin is here threatening to blow it up FOR NO REASON considering he's toast in WV no matter what.

The infrastructure bill has nothing to do with the reconciliation bill.

There is no reason for the "progressive" to hold the infrastructure bill hostage.

There is a reason considering that if they didn't hold the infrastructure bill hostage Senate Dem moderates would abandon the reconciliation bill the second Biden signs the infrastructure bill.

You are just making assumptions.

Pleaseee. Senate mod dems are barely wanting to pass reconciliation now and they have to if they want their precious infra bill. If Pelosi just passed the infra bill right away Senate mods and house mods as well would just abandon reconciliation

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Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

So moderates running in conservative districts (not that many btw) hold the party hostage until they get only what they want and progressives keep having to compromise? Yeah that's a dysfunctional divided party, really bad that that's something you want.

No, what the so-called "progressives" are doing is holding the party hostage.

The moderates are just doing what they have to do to try to hold on to their seats.

If the moderates want to hold onto their seats they can allow the reconciliation bill to pass so they get both their moderate hero bipartisan bill and progressives get their reconciliation bill. Thus everyone wins. And everyone can go back to their districts with something sweet for their voters. Literally basic politics. Manchin is here threatening to blow it up FOR NO REASON considering he's toast in WV no matter what.

The infrastructure bill has nothing to do with the reconciliation bill.

There is no reason for the "progressive" to hold the infrastructure bill hostage.

There is a reason considering that if they didn't hold the infrastructure bill hostage Senate Dem moderates would abandon the reconciliation bill the second Biden signs the infrastructure bill.

You are just making assumptions.

Pleaseee. Senate mod dems are barely wanting to pass reconciliation now and they have to if they want their precious infra bill. If Pelosi just passed the infra bill right away Senate mods and house mods as well would just abandon reconciliation

Do you not think they want stuff for their states?

I am sure they do.

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Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

So moderates running in conservative districts (not that many btw) hold the party hostage until they get only what they want and progressives keep having to compromise? Yeah that's a dysfunctional divided party, really bad that that's something you want.

No, what the so-called "progressives" are doing is holding the party hostage.

The moderates are just doing what they have to do to try to hold on to their seats.

If the moderates want to hold onto their seats they can allow the reconciliation bill to pass so they get both their moderate hero bipartisan bill and progressives get their reconciliation bill. Thus everyone wins. And everyone can go back to their districts with something sweet for their voters. Literally basic politics. Manchin is here threatening to blow it up FOR NO REASON considering he's toast in WV no matter what.

The infrastructure bill has nothing to do with the reconciliation bill.

There is no reason for the "progressive" to hold the infrastructure bill hostage.

There is a reason considering that if they didn't hold the infrastructure bill hostage Senate Dem moderates would abandon the reconciliation bill the second Biden signs the infrastructure bill.

You are just making assumptions.

Pleaseee. Senate mod dems are barely wanting to pass reconciliation now and they have to if they want their precious infra bill. If Pelosi just passed the infra bill right away Senate mods and house mods as well would just abandon reconciliation

Do you not think they want stuff for their states?

I am sure they do.

Clearly Manchin doesn't. West Virginia needs a whole meth makeover. In fact 3.5T is probably needed for WV alone

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Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

So moderates running in conservative districts (not that many btw) hold the party hostage until they get only what they want and progressives keep having to compromise? Yeah that's a dysfunctional divided party, really bad that that's something you want.

No, what the so-called "progressives" are doing is holding the party hostage.

The moderates are just doing what they have to do to try to hold on to their seats.

If the moderates want to hold onto their seats they can allow the reconciliation bill to pass so they get both their moderate hero bipartisan bill and progressives get their reconciliation bill. Thus everyone wins. And everyone can go back to their districts with something sweet for their voters. Literally basic politics. Manchin is here threatening to blow it up FOR NO REASON considering he's toast in WV no matter what.

The infrastructure bill has nothing to do with the reconciliation bill.

There is no reason for the "progressive" to hold the infrastructure bill hostage.

There is a reason considering that if they didn't hold the infrastructure bill hostage Senate Dem moderates would abandon the reconciliation bill the second Biden signs the infrastructure bill.

You are just making assumptions.

Pleaseee. Senate mod dems are barely wanting to pass reconciliation now and they have to if they want their precious infra bill. If Pelosi just passed the infra bill right away Senate mods and house mods as well would just abandon reconciliation

Do you not think they want stuff for their states?

I am sure they do.

Clearly Manchin doesn't. West Virginia needs a whole meth makeover. In fact 3.5T is probably needed for WV alone

...just ask Manchin what he wants and do some horse-trading.

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Dems would be much better off running on an impactful 3.5T bill than some watered down flop bipartisan bill.

It's not a "flop bill".

Do you even know what is in it?

Maybe you should find out.

It's not nearly as comprehensive as the reconciliation bill so yes its a flop.

Give me everything I want or I'll blow everyone up.

That's called a hostage negotiation.

And that's not what Manchin is doing??? Sounding very hypocritical right now.

No, it isn't.

He just said that he doesn't support the 3.5 trillion price tag.

He's literally threatening to kill the reconciliation bill or anything near its price tag, so he's literally going kamikaze on the whole process cuz he knows House Dems won't take up the bipartisan bill without a reconciliation bill being passed by the senate. He's literally doing what you're accusing me of supporting. Talking about ruining the only thing Dems can run on, as if that's not exactly what he's doing right now.

Cut it in half and he'll say that he is satisfied.

Lmao no. He gets his bipartisan bill, progressives and Party leaders get their 3.5T. Compromise isn't when moderates get everything they want and progressives keep giving more and more until moderates are satisfied. That's moderate dominance. Progressives already compromised by lowering the reconciliation from like 6T to 3.5T. Manchin needs to shut his mouth and accept that.

How many "progressives" are running in Republican-leaning districts?

So moderates running in conservative districts (not that many btw) hold the party hostage until they get only what they want and progressives keep having to compromise? Yeah that's a dysfunctional divided party, really bad that that's something you want.

No, what the so-called "progressives" are doing is holding the party hostage.

The moderates are just doing what they have to do to try to hold on to their seats.

If the moderates want to hold onto their seats they can allow the reconciliation bill to pass so they get both their moderate hero bipartisan bill and progressives get their reconciliation bill. Thus everyone wins. And everyone can go back to their districts with something sweet for their voters. Literally basic politics. Manchin is here threatening to blow it up FOR NO REASON considering he's toast in WV no matter what.

The infrastructure bill has nothing to do with the reconciliation bill.

There is no reason for the "progressive" to hold the infrastructure bill hostage.

There is a reason considering that if they didn't hold the infrastructure bill hostage Senate Dem moderates would abandon the reconciliation bill the second Biden signs the infrastructure bill.

You are just making assumptions.

Pleaseee. Senate mod dems are barely wanting to pass reconciliation now and they have to if they want their precious infra bill. If Pelosi just passed the infra bill right away Senate mods and house mods as well would just abandon reconciliation

Do you not think they want stuff for their states?

I am sure they do.

Clearly Manchin doesn't. West Virginia needs a whole meth makeover. In fact 3.5T is probably needed for WV alone

...just ask Manchin what he wants and do some horse-trading.

He literally already got what he wants?? He got a bipartisan bill... he's being very selfish rn very toxic gatekeep-y of him tbh