PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[wbrocks67]

Fetterman raised $3.1M in Q1

https://twitter.com/JonathanTamari/status/1511331592752484363

[Not Me, Us]

Fetterman raised $3.1M in Q1

https://twitter.com/JonathanTamari/status/1511331592752484363

Race still seems like Fetterman's to lose at this point, but we really need more polling for the primary.

[Mr.Phips]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Some people who liked Lamb back then, and who thought he would be a great candidate for higher office back then do not like Lamb anymore because his 2020 re-election margin in his Congressional District was unambiguously pathetic. I myself am among these people.

Lamb wasn’t winning statewide in 2022 and he should have known that last year.  He should have just run for re-election.  Now his career is probably over.  Throw him in the same bucket as Brad Ellsworth, Charlie Melancon, Paul Hodes, and Bruce Braley of Democrats who ran for statewide races they were never going to win in bad years for Democrats.

[Sir Mohamed]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Some people who liked Lamb back then, and who thought he would be a great candidate for higher office back then do not like Lamb anymore because his 2020 re-election margin in his Congressional District was unambiguously pathetic. I myself am among these people.

Lamb wasn’t winning statewide in 2022 and he should have known that last year.  He should have just run for re-election.  Now his career is probably over.  Throw him in the same bucket as Brad Ellsworth, Charlie Melancon, Paul Hodes, and Bruce Braley of Democrats who ran for statewide races they were never going to win in bad years for Democrats.

Couldn't he just make a comeback in 2024 by running for the House again? Wouldn't be the first congressman to return after a failed senate bid.

[Mr.Phips]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Some people who liked Lamb back then, and who thought he would be a great candidate for higher office back then do not like Lamb anymore because his 2020 re-election margin in his Congressional District was unambiguously pathetic. I myself am among these people.

Lamb wasn’t winning statewide in 2022 and he should have known that last year.  He should have just run for re-election.  Now his career is probably over.  Throw him in the same bucket as Brad Ellsworth, Charlie Melancon, Paul Hodes, and Bruce Braley of Democrats who ran for statewide races they were never going to win in bad years for Democrats.

Couldn't he just make a comeback in 2024 by running for the House again? Wouldn't be the first congressman to return after a failed senate bid.

None of the Dems mentioned above ended up making a comeback by running for their old House seats.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Paul Hodes was a strange bird. He actually did try and make a comeback last year for state senate and lost in the primary.

[Sir Mohamed]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Some people who liked Lamb back then, and who thought he would be a great candidate for higher office back then do not like Lamb anymore because his 2020 re-election margin in his Congressional District was unambiguously pathetic. I myself am among these people.

Lamb wasn’t winning statewide in 2022 and he should have known that last year.  He should have just run for re-election.  Now his career is probably over.  Throw him in the same bucket as Brad Ellsworth, Charlie Melancon, Paul Hodes, and Bruce Braley of Democrats who ran for statewide races they were never going to win in bad years for Democrats.

Couldn't he just make a comeback in 2024 by running for the House again? Wouldn't be the first congressman to return after a failed senate bid.

None of the Dems mentioned above ended up making a comeback by running for their old House seats.

But Ann Kirkpatrick and Deborah Ross for example did. I wouldn't count Lamb out here, though it's way too soon to speculate.

[Calthrina950]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Some people who liked Lamb back then, and who thought he would be a great candidate for higher office back then do not like Lamb anymore because his 2020 re-election margin in his Congressional District was unambiguously pathetic. I myself am among these people.

Lamb wasn’t winning statewide in 2022 and he should have known that last year.  He should have just run for re-election.  Now his career is probably over.  Throw him in the same bucket as Brad Ellsworth, Charlie Melancon, Paul Hodes, and Bruce Braley of Democrats who ran for statewide races they were never going to win in bad years for Democrats.

Lamb, if he is the nominee (which looks unlikely at this point), won't lose by as much as they did, but it would still be a clear loss.

[Mr.Phips]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Some people who liked Lamb back then, and who thought he would be a great candidate for higher office back then do not like Lamb anymore because his 2020 re-election margin in his Congressional District was unambiguously pathetic. I myself am among these people.

Lamb wasn’t winning statewide in 2022 and he should have known that last year.  He should have just run for re-election.  Now his career is probably over.  Throw him in the same bucket as Brad Ellsworth, Charlie Melancon, Paul Hodes, and Bruce Braley of Democrats who ran for statewide races they were never going to win in bad years for Democrats.

Lamb, if he is the nominee (which looks unlikely at this point), won't lose by as much as they did, but it would still be a clear loss.

Still, like them, he would be a Democrat who throw away a House seat for a Senate run in a year where a Democrat clearly can’t win a senate race.  I knew this back in July 2021 when he got in.  Not sure why he and others didn’t know this based on midterm election history. 

[Calthrina950]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Some people who liked Lamb back then, and who thought he would be a great candidate for higher office back then do not like Lamb anymore because his 2020 re-election margin in his Congressional District was unambiguously pathetic. I myself am among these people.

Lamb wasn’t winning statewide in 2022 and he should have known that last year.  He should have just run for re-election.  Now his career is probably over.  Throw him in the same bucket as Brad Ellsworth, Charlie Melancon, Paul Hodes, and Bruce Braley of Democrats who ran for statewide races they were never going to win in bad years for Democrats.

Lamb, if he is the nominee (which looks unlikely at this point), won't lose by as much as they did, but it would still be a clear loss.

Still, like them, he would be a Democrat who throw away a House seat for a Senate run in a year where a Democrat clearly can’t win a senate race.  I knew this back in July 2021 when he got in.  Not sure why he and others didn’t know this based on midterm election history. 

You're right, but ambitious politicians often let the facts get ahead of them.

[Mr.Phips]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Some people who liked Lamb back then, and who thought he would be a great candidate for higher office back then do not like Lamb anymore because his 2020 re-election margin in his Congressional District was unambiguously pathetic. I myself am among these people.

Lamb wasn’t winning statewide in 2022 and he should have known that last year.  He should have just run for re-election.  Now his career is probably over.  Throw him in the same bucket as Brad Ellsworth, Charlie Melancon, Paul Hodes, and Bruce Braley of Democrats who ran for statewide races they were never going to win in bad years for Democrats.

Lamb, if he is the nominee (which looks unlikely at this point), won't lose by as much as they did, but it would still be a clear loss.

Still, like them, he would be a Democrat who throw away a House seat for a Senate run in a year where a Democrat clearly can’t win a senate race.  I knew this back in July 2021 when he got in.  Not sure why he and others didn’t know this based on midterm election history. 

You're right, but ambitious politicians often let the facts get ahead of them.

Nobody at the DCCC met with him and explained this to him?

[Calthrina950]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Some people who liked Lamb back then, and who thought he would be a great candidate for higher office back then do not like Lamb anymore because his 2020 re-election margin in his Congressional District was unambiguously pathetic. I myself am among these people.

Lamb wasn’t winning statewide in 2022 and he should have known that last year.  He should have just run for re-election.  Now his career is probably over.  Throw him in the same bucket as Brad Ellsworth, Charlie Melancon, Paul Hodes, and Bruce Braley of Democrats who ran for statewide races they were never going to win in bad years for Democrats.

Lamb, if he is the nominee (which looks unlikely at this point), won't lose by as much as they did, but it would still be a clear loss.

Still, like them, he would be a Democrat who throw away a House seat for a Senate run in a year where a Democrat clearly can’t win a senate race.  I knew this back in July 2021 when he got in.  Not sure why he and others didn’t know this based on midterm election history. 

You're right, but ambitious politicians often let the facts get ahead of them.

Nobody at the DCCC met with him and explained this to him?

I'm assuming not.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Never underestimate a politician's ego.

[Mr.Phips]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Some people who liked Lamb back then, and who thought he would be a great candidate for higher office back then do not like Lamb anymore because his 2020 re-election margin in his Congressional District was unambiguously pathetic. I myself am among these people.

Lamb wasn’t winning statewide in 2022 and he should have known that last year.  He should have just run for re-election.  Now his career is probably over.  Throw him in the same bucket as Brad Ellsworth, Charlie Melancon, Paul Hodes, and Bruce Braley of Democrats who ran for statewide races they were never going to win in bad years for Democrats.

Lamb, if he is the nominee (which looks unlikely at this point), won't lose by as much as they did, but it would still be a clear loss.

Still, like them, he would be a Democrat who throw away a House seat for a Senate run in a year where a Democrat clearly can’t win a senate race.  I knew this back in July 2021 when he got in.  Not sure why he and others didn’t know this based on midterm election history. 

You're right, but ambitious politicians often let the facts get ahead of them.

Nobody at the DCCC met with him and explained this to him?

I'm assuming not.

Wouldn’t surprise me if the DCCC failed to do their job.

[Canis]

https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1511396967355719688?t=I6q-_CFa0OCQz9cJR...
Fetterman claps back hard at lamb
He's also been campaigning in deep red counties to sold out venues
https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1511102975485386753?t=cqGyXZREOwtYG7Anh...
https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1510687638625394690?t=FNByjKAszqkIJxPSf...
He's also been endorsed by the postal workers union
https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1511076639614119940?t=O89a2rDlDCbYKQDth...

[President Johnson]

Is it known whether Fetterman tweets himself? At least in some instances? It pretty much seems like to me. At least he comes off authentic, which is not always the case with a politician. Really hope he wins the primary and general.

[Tekken_Guy]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Some people who liked Lamb back then, and who thought he would be a great candidate for higher office back then do not like Lamb anymore because his 2020 re-election margin in his Congressional District was unambiguously pathetic. I myself am among these people.

Lamb wasn’t winning statewide in 2022 and he should have known that last year.  He should have just run for re-election.  Now his career is probably over.  Throw him in the same bucket as Brad Ellsworth, Charlie Melancon, Paul Hodes, and Bruce Braley of Democrats who ran for statewide races they were never going to win in bad years for Democrats.

To be fair to Ellsworth and Melancon, their house seats were gone once they flipped. And Braley and Hodes both did far worse than they should have in those senate races.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Let's see how Big Pharma's favorite failson is doing!

https://twitter.com/DKElections/status/1511474110894944261

Oh.

The corporate bootlickers know they can't land a hit on Big John so they've resorted to blatantly making sh*t up. Lambchin must condemn!

[KaiserDave]

Lamb is going down in flames. He got desperate fast.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Lamb got into the fave late while Fettetman was already established that's why Lamb is losing

[Thank you for being a friend...]

John Fetterman is really a unique candidate, he reminds me of Jon Tester - he seems like he's going to make this race very competitive.  The Republican field is abysmal.  A strong R candidate would have walked away with this.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Vote wise not really. But he's trying to run to the right now in a statewide primary which is bizarre considering how conservative his original district was. And he's running a garbage campaign.

Lamb's 2018 campaign in comparison to now is like the quality difference of The Empire Strikes Back and The Rise of Skywalker.

[Mr.Phips]

Has Lamb shifted to right since entering congress in 2018? I feel like opinion of him was fairly positive in 2018 in the aftermath of that special election. If I remember correctly, he was even mentioned as senate, gov or VP material. Now seems like nobody really likes him.

Some people who liked Lamb back then, and who thought he would be a great candidate for higher office back then do not like Lamb anymore because his 2020 re-election margin in his Congressional District was unambiguously pathetic. I myself am among these people.

Lamb wasn’t winning statewide in 2022 and he should have known that last year.  He should have just run for re-election.  Now his career is probably over.  Throw him in the same bucket as Brad Ellsworth, Charlie Melancon, Paul Hodes, and Bruce Braley of Democrats who ran for statewide races they were never going to win in bad years for Democrats.

To be fair to Ellsworth and Melancon, their house seats were gone once they flipped. And Braley and Hodes both did far worse than they should have in those senate races.

Ellsworth may have been able to hold his seat even in 2010.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Lamb should've ran for something like Lt. Governor or Attorney General if he had no chance of holding the House seat.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Rs chances of holding PA is diminished anyways .. Fetterman was leading Oz by 9 pts, Oz was definitely overrated