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« Reply #2825 on: October 30, 2021, 01:54:02 PM »

as someone who's worked with the mcauliffe team since march, I can tell yall that if he loses it is fully because of the terrible organization of his campaign. the loudoun and Fairfax dems are also  absolutely awful at their jobs and have let the GOP completely control the narrative. meanwhile they are handwriting postcards to safe d houses asking them to vote... at the early voting location in loudoun there are 5 GOP helpers handing out voting guides and not a single democrat there.... they truly do not have their sh**t together. trumpkin was a campaign tactic doomed to fail when the GOP candidate is essentially mitt romney... this was a perfect storm of sh**tty campaigning from the dems, so if youngkin wins, I don't think it means anything about the partisanship of the state other than the fact that va dems are SOOO BADDD

do you actually think T-Mac will lose?  Yeah Youngkin has a ton of signs in Loudoun and Fairfax (he did in the "primary" as well btw) but if you go down side streets to real neighborhoods it's clear most people are voting for T-Mac, even in wealthy burbs.  Plus Dem turnout has been relatively high in terms of early voting. 

Plus what does it matter if you have people handing out voting guides early?  When I voted last year early, there were numerous GOP operatives at the Fairfax site handing out literature.  Nobody wanted it.  That was when it was clearly to me that Dems were killing it with the early vote.  How do you know that's not happening this year as well?  (the most likely scenario).

I can't answer that until I see what ED turnout looks like, but I can definitively say that if Youngkin wins it will be with only a plurality rather than a majority. As for the GOP handing out lit, my point is the Dems have been completely absent in every way. No signs, no canvassing, no public events, no nothing. Loudoun has controlled the narrative of this entire election and Terry has not held a public event once. He has visited several times to do canvassing but you would think he would bring in people like Biden and Obama to really ramp up enthusiasm...

Ayala>Herring>Terry>HoD in my eyes, and either way, Ayala is the clear favorite in 2025 which is kinda cool

I agree with the ordering, but I think all three win comfortably.

I think that it's either very close or its a blowout. Youngkin +1 to McAuliffe +2/3 or McAuliffe +6 to McAuliffe +8.

I think whatever the polls show on Election Day, add 5 points to all three Democrats.
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« Reply #2826 on: October 30, 2021, 01:55:38 PM »

as someone who's worked with the mcauliffe team since march, I can tell yall that if he loses it is fully because of the terrible organization of his campaign. the loudoun and Fairfax dems are also  absolutely awful at their jobs and have let the GOP completely control the narrative. meanwhile they are handwriting postcards to safe d houses asking them to vote... at the early voting location in loudoun there are 5 GOP helpers handing out voting guides and not a single democrat there.... they truly do not have their sh**t together. trumpkin was a campaign tactic doomed to fail when the GOP candidate is essentially mitt romney... this was a perfect storm of sh**tty campaigning from the dems, so if youngkin wins, I don't think it means anything about the partisanship of the state other than the fact that va dems are SOOO BADDD

do you actually think T-Mac will lose?  Yeah Youngkin has a ton of signs in Loudoun and Fairfax (he did in the "primary" as well btw) but if you go down side streets to real neighborhoods it's clear most people are voting for T-Mac, even in wealthy burbs.  Plus Dem turnout has been relatively high in terms of early voting. 

Plus what does it matter if you have people handing out voting guides early?  When I voted last year early, there were numerous GOP operatives at the Fairfax site handing out literature.  Nobody wanted it.  That was when it was clearly to me that Dems were killing it with the early vote.  How do you know that's not happening this year as well?  (the most likely scenario).

I can't answer that until I see what ED turnout looks like, but I can definitively say that if Youngkin wins it will be with only a plurality rather than a majority. As for the GOP handing out lit, my point is the Dems have been completely absent in every way. No signs, no canvassing, no public events, no nothing. Loudoun has controlled the narrative of this entire election and Terry has not held a public event once. He has visited several times to do canvassing but you would think he would bring in people like Biden and Obama to really ramp up enthusiasm...

Ayala>Herring>Terry>HoD in my eyes, and either way, Ayala is the clear favorite in 2025 which is kinda cool

I agree with the ordering, but I think all three win comfortably.

I think that it's either very close or its a blowout. Youngkin +1 to McAuliffe +2/3 or McAuliffe +6 to McAuliffe +8.

I think whatever the polls show on Election Day, add 5 points to all three Democrats.

Fair enough I'm emotionally preparing myself for it to be close but I honestly don't know, the "close polls" lately have had awfullll crosstabs. Regardless of what you think of Youngkin or Tmac, there is nothing that Youngkin has done to warrant 2 digit increases in minorities and educated white voters. Also the electorate is not going to be D+1 and if you think it will be then get help
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« Reply #2827 on: October 30, 2021, 01:56:00 PM »

as someone who's worked with the mcauliffe team since march, I can tell yall that if he loses it is fully because of the terrible organization of his campaign. the loudoun and Fairfax dems are also  absolutely awful at their jobs and have let the GOP completely control the narrative. meanwhile they are handwriting postcards to safe d houses asking them to vote... at the early voting location in loudoun there are 5 GOP helpers handing out voting guides and not a single democrat there.... they truly do not have their sh**t together. trumpkin was a campaign tactic doomed to fail when the GOP candidate is essentially mitt romney... this was a perfect storm of sh**tty campaigning from the dems, so if youngkin wins, I don't think it means anything about the partisanship of the state other than the fact that va dems are SOOO BADDD

do you actually think T-Mac will lose?  Yeah Youngkin has a ton of signs in Loudoun and Fairfax (he did in the "primary" as well btw) but if you go down side streets to real neighborhoods it's clear most people are voting for T-Mac, even in wealthy burbs.  Plus Dem turnout has been relatively high in terms of early voting. 

Plus what does it matter if you have people handing out voting guides early?  When I voted last year early, there were numerous GOP operatives at the Fairfax site handing out literature.  Nobody wanted it.  That was when it was clearly to me that Dems were killing it with the early vote.  How do you know that's not happening this year as well?  (the most likely scenario).

I can't answer that until I see what ED turnout looks like, but I can definitively say that if Youngkin wins it will be with only a plurality rather than a majority. As for the GOP handing out lit, my point is the Dems have been completely absent in every way. No signs, no canvassing, no public events, no nothing. Loudoun has controlled the narrative of this entire election and Terry has not held a public event once. He has visited several times to do canvassing but you would think he would bring in people like Biden and Obama to really ramp up enthusiasm...

Ayala>Herring>Terry>HoD in my eyes, and either way, Ayala is the clear favorite in 2025 which is kinda cool

I agree with the ordering, but I think all three win comfortably.

I think that it's either very close or its a blowout. Youngkin +1 to McAuliffe +2/3 or McAuliffe +6 to McAuliffe +8.

I think whatever the polls show on Election Day, add 5 points to all three Democrats.

Might happen that way, but seems pretty silly to expect it to happen.
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« Reply #2828 on: October 30, 2021, 01:56:16 PM »

At this point I hope Youngkin wins more to trigger NSV than even seeing my party win lol

Winning bc of spite >>>>> winning bc of partisanship
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« Reply #2829 on: October 30, 2021, 01:57:02 PM »

as someone who's worked with the mcauliffe team since march, I can tell yall that if he loses it is fully because of the terrible organization of his campaign. the loudoun and Fairfax dems are also  absolutely awful at their jobs and have let the GOP completely control the narrative. meanwhile they are handwriting postcards to safe d houses asking them to vote... at the early voting location in loudoun there are 5 GOP helpers handing out voting guides and not a single democrat there.... they truly do not have their sh**t together. trumpkin was a campaign tactic doomed to fail when the GOP candidate is essentially mitt romney... this was a perfect storm of sh**tty campaigning from the dems, so if youngkin wins, I don't think it means anything about the partisanship of the state other than the fact that va dems are SOOO BADDD

do you actually think T-Mac will lose?  Yeah Youngkin has a ton of signs in Loudoun and Fairfax (he did in the "primary" as well btw) but if you go down side streets to real neighborhoods it's clear most people are voting for T-Mac, even in wealthy burbs.  Plus Dem turnout has been relatively high in terms of early voting. 

Plus what does it matter if you have people handing out voting guides early?  When I voted last year early, there were numerous GOP operatives at the Fairfax site handing out literature.  Nobody wanted it.  That was when it was clearly to me that Dems were killing it with the early vote.  How do you know that's not happening this year as well?  (the most likely scenario).

I can't answer that until I see what ED turnout looks like, but I can definitively say that if Youngkin wins it will be with only a plurality rather than a majority. As for the GOP handing out lit, my point is the Dems have been completely absent in every way. No signs, no canvassing, no public events, no nothing. Loudoun has controlled the narrative of this entire election and Terry has not held a public event once. He has visited several times to do canvassing but you would think he would bring in people like Biden and Obama to really ramp up enthusiasm...

Ayala>Herring>Terry>HoD in my eyes, and either way, Ayala is the clear favorite in 2025 which is kinda cool

I agree with the ordering, but I think all three win comfortably.

I think that it's either very close or its a blowout. Youngkin +1 to McAuliffe +2/3 or McAuliffe +6 to McAuliffe +8.

I think whatever the polls show on Election Day, add 5 points to all three Democrats.

Might happen that way, but seems pretty silly to expect it to happen.

they were more than 5 points off in favor of Republicans in 2017...
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« Reply #2830 on: October 30, 2021, 01:58:43 PM »

as someone who's worked with the mcauliffe team since march, I can tell yall that if he loses it is fully because of the terrible organization of his campaign. the loudoun and Fairfax dems are also  absolutely awful at their jobs and have let the GOP completely control the narrative. meanwhile they are handwriting postcards to safe d houses asking them to vote... at the early voting location in loudoun there are 5 GOP helpers handing out voting guides and not a single democrat there.... they truly do not have their sh**t together. trumpkin was a campaign tactic doomed to fail when the GOP candidate is essentially mitt romney... this was a perfect storm of sh**tty campaigning from the dems, so if youngkin wins, I don't think it means anything about the partisanship of the state other than the fact that va dems are SOOO BADDD
Any individuals who are particularly incompetent in the VA Dems, or is it too broadly spread out to justify singling out anyone?

I know there was a major campaign restructuring in the summer for Terry's campaign that resulted in 2 months of dead silence while all the CRT/SB bullsh**t was going on, so that definitely didn't help. I don't think it is an issue with VA Dems as much as it is Terry's campaign just not knowing what they are doing. They clearly thought this race was safe until September so they didn't even campaign or do anything until that point whereas Youngkin has been out fighting all year. He has run an excellent campaign all things considered.


Also, as a Loudoun resident and LCPS student, I think it's crucial that everybody understands what is happening with this rape situation. The blame in placing this kid back into LCPS has nothing to do with the school board as it was out of their hands at that point (criminal charges). They legitimately did not know what happened as it was in the hands of the DA Buta Biberaj. I don't know why she decided the kid wasn't a risk (I've heard he was SPED) but she is the one who made the decision to place him back in schools, not the school board. Also, there is no evidence that this kid is trans or even was wearing a skirt other than what this girl said. I also want to say that the walkouts last week were not political in nature other than being mad at LCPS for tolerating rape culture in general (there was a specific situation at my school that exemplified this). As the kid literally in the front of the walkout, I can assure everyone on Atlas that it had nothing to do with trans kids, CRT, or the gubernatorial election in any way.

Also CRT is bullsh**t we learn the opposite so that's all a bunch of lies too
Seems that in general the school board might have been stuck in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation?
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« Reply #2831 on: October 30, 2021, 01:59:44 PM »

as someone who's worked with the mcauliffe team since march, I can tell yall that if he loses it is fully because of the terrible organization of his campaign. the loudoun and Fairfax dems are also  absolutely awful at their jobs and have let the GOP completely control the narrative. meanwhile they are handwriting postcards to safe d houses asking them to vote... at the early voting location in loudoun there are 5 GOP helpers handing out voting guides and not a single democrat there.... they truly do not have their sh**t together. trumpkin was a campaign tactic doomed to fail when the GOP candidate is essentially mitt romney... this was a perfect storm of sh**tty campaigning from the dems, so if youngkin wins, I don't think it means anything about the partisanship of the state other than the fact that va dems are SOOO BADDD

do you actually think T-Mac will lose?  Yeah Youngkin has a ton of signs in Loudoun and Fairfax (he did in the "primary" as well btw) but if you go down side streets to real neighborhoods it's clear most people are voting for T-Mac, even in wealthy burbs.  Plus Dem turnout has been relatively high in terms of early voting. 

Plus what does it matter if you have people handing out voting guides early?  When I voted last year early, there were numerous GOP operatives at the Fairfax site handing out literature.  Nobody wanted it.  That was when it was clearly to me that Dems were killing it with the early vote.  How do you know that's not happening this year as well?  (the most likely scenario).

I can't answer that until I see what ED turnout looks like, but I can definitively say that if Youngkin wins it will be with only a plurality rather than a majority. As for the GOP handing out lit, my point is the Dems have been completely absent in every way. No signs, no canvassing, no public events, no nothing. Loudoun has controlled the narrative of this entire election and Terry has not held a public event once. He has visited several times to do canvassing but you would think he would bring in people like Biden and Obama to really ramp up enthusiasm...

Ayala>Herring>Terry>HoD in my eyes, and either way, Ayala is the clear favorite in 2025 which is kinda cool

I agree with the ordering, but I think all three win comfortably.

I think that it's either very close or its a blowout. Youngkin +1 to McAuliffe +2/3 or McAuliffe +6 to McAuliffe +8.

I think whatever the polls show on Election Day, add 5 points to all three Democrats.

Might happen that way, but seems pretty silly to expect it to happen.

they were more than 5 points off in favor of Republicans in 2017...

Sure, but again, seems silly to expect it to happen again.  Especially since the national environment is quite different now compared to 2017.

Not gonna lie, that's a pretty weak argument.
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« Reply #2832 on: October 30, 2021, 02:00:10 PM »

as someone who's worked with the mcauliffe team since march, I can tell yall that if he loses it is fully because of the terrible organization of his campaign. the loudoun and Fairfax dems are also  absolutely awful at their jobs and have let the GOP completely control the narrative. meanwhile they are handwriting postcards to safe d houses asking them to vote... at the early voting location in loudoun there are 5 GOP helpers handing out voting guides and not a single democrat there.... they truly do not have their sh**t together. trumpkin was a campaign tactic doomed to fail when the GOP candidate is essentially mitt romney... this was a perfect storm of sh**tty campaigning from the dems, so if youngkin wins, I don't think it means anything about the partisanship of the state other than the fact that va dems are SOOO BADDD
Any individuals who are particularly incompetent in the VA Dems, or is it too broadly spread out to justify singling out anyone?

I know there was a major campaign restructuring in the summer for Terry's campaign that resulted in 2 months of dead silence while all the CRT/SB bullsh**t was going on, so that definitely didn't help. I don't think it is an issue with VA Dems as much as it is Terry's campaign just not knowing what they are doing. They clearly thought this race was safe until September so they didn't even campaign or do anything until that point whereas Youngkin has been out fighting all year. He has run an excellent campaign all things considered.


Also, as a Loudoun resident and LCPS student, I think it's crucial that everybody understands what is happening with this rape situation. The blame in placing this kid back into LCPS has nothing to do with the school board as it was out of their hands at that point (criminal charges). They legitimately did not know what happened as it was in the hands of the DA Buta Biberaj. I don't know why she decided the kid wasn't a risk (I've heard he was SPED) but she is the one who made the decision to place him back in schools, not the school board. Also, there is no evidence that this kid is trans or even was wearing a skirt other than what this girl said. I also want to say that the walkouts last week were not political in nature other than being mad at LCPS for tolerating rape culture in general (there was a specific situation at my school that exemplified this). As the kid literally in the front of the walkout, I can assure everyone on Atlas that it had nothing to do with trans kids, CRT, or the gubernatorial election in any way.

Also CRT is bullsh**t we learn the opposite so that's all a bunch of lies too
Seems that in general the school board might have been stuck in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation?

Oh fully, there was nothing the school board could have done in this situation, period. It was completely out of their hands, to the point where they didn't even know what happened to this kid because it was a criminal matter at that point.
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« Reply #2833 on: October 30, 2021, 02:04:08 PM »

This is such a mess that I am not even going to make a prediction anymore lmao. I initially had 6.5 TMac but... idk. I feel like I don't understand what is going on with this particular race soo.
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« Reply #2834 on: October 30, 2021, 02:04:54 PM »

as someone who's worked with the mcauliffe team since march, I can tell yall that if he loses it is fully because of the terrible organization of his campaign. the loudoun and Fairfax dems are also  absolutely awful at their jobs and have let the GOP completely control the narrative. meanwhile they are handwriting postcards to safe d houses asking them to vote... at the early voting location in loudoun there are 5 GOP helpers handing out voting guides and not a single democrat there.... they truly do not have their sh**t together. trumpkin was a campaign tactic doomed to fail when the GOP candidate is essentially mitt romney... this was a perfect storm of sh**tty campaigning from the dems, so if youngkin wins, I don't think it means anything about the partisanship of the state other than the fact that va dems are SOOO BADDD

do you actually think T-Mac will lose?  Yeah Youngkin has a ton of signs in Loudoun and Fairfax (he did in the "primary" as well btw) but if you go down side streets to real neighborhoods it's clear most people are voting for T-Mac, even in wealthy burbs.  Plus Dem turnout has been relatively high in terms of early voting. 

Plus what does it matter if you have people handing out voting guides early?  When I voted last year early, there were numerous GOP operatives at the Fairfax site handing out literature.  Nobody wanted it.  That was when it was clearly to me that Dems were killing it with the early vote.  How do you know that's not happening this year as well?  (the most likely scenario).

I can't answer that until I see what ED turnout looks like, but I can definitively say that if Youngkin wins it will be with only a plurality rather than a majority. As for the GOP handing out lit, my point is the Dems have been completely absent in every way. No signs, no canvassing, no public events, no nothing. Loudoun has controlled the narrative of this entire election and Terry has not held a public event once. He has visited several times to do canvassing but you would think he would bring in people like Biden and Obama to really ramp up enthusiasm...

Ayala>Herring>Terry>HoD in my eyes, and either way, Ayala is the clear favorite in 2025 which is kinda cool

I agree with the ordering, but I think all three win comfortably.

I think that it's either very close or its a blowout. Youngkin +1 to McAuliffe +2/3 or McAuliffe +6 to McAuliffe +8.

I think whatever the polls show on Election Day, add 5 points to all three Democrats.

Might happen that way, but seems pretty silly to expect it to happen.

they were more than 5 points off in favor of Republicans in 2017...

Sure, but again, seems silly to expect it to happen again.  Especially since the national environment is quite different now compared to 2017.

Not gonna lie, that's a pretty weak argument.

And it's a polarized state.  How did the national environment work for Dem senators in Indiana and Florida in 2018?  How about Ernst in 2020?  Voters have been remarkably stable in their choices over the last few years.  The only big exceptions being when one has a huge personal scandal.  And this school choice issue isn't it.
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« Reply #2835 on: October 30, 2021, 02:06:12 PM »

as someone who's worked with the mcauliffe team since march, I can tell yall that if he loses it is fully because of the terrible organization of his campaign. the loudoun and Fairfax dems are also  absolutely awful at their jobs and have let the GOP completely control the narrative. meanwhile they are handwriting postcards to safe d houses asking them to vote... at the early voting location in loudoun there are 5 GOP helpers handing out voting guides and not a single democrat there.... they truly do not have their sh**t together. trumpkin was a campaign tactic doomed to fail when the GOP candidate is essentially mitt romney... this was a perfect storm of sh**tty campaigning from the dems, so if youngkin wins, I don't think it means anything about the partisanship of the state other than the fact that va dems are SOOO BADDD
Any individuals who are particularly incompetent in the VA Dems, or is it too broadly spread out to justify singling out anyone?

I know there was a major campaign restructuring in the summer for Terry's campaign that resulted in 2 months of dead silence while all the CRT/SB bullsh**t was going on, so that definitely didn't help. I don't think it is an issue with VA Dems as much as it is Terry's campaign just not knowing what they are doing. They clearly thought this race was safe until September so they didn't even campaign or do anything until that point whereas Youngkin has been out fighting all year. He has run an excellent campaign all things considered.


Also, as a Loudoun resident and LCPS student, I think it's crucial that everybody understands what is happening with this rape situation. The blame in placing this kid back into LCPS has nothing to do with the school board as it was out of their hands at that point (criminal charges). They legitimately did not know what happened as it was in the hands of the DA Buta Biberaj. I don't know why she decided the kid wasn't a risk (I've heard he was SPED) but she is the one who made the decision to place him back in schools, not the school board. Also, there is no evidence that this kid is trans or even was wearing a skirt other than what this girl said. I also want to say that the walkouts last week were not political in nature other than being mad at LCPS for tolerating rape culture in general (there was a specific situation at my school that exemplified this). As the kid literally in the front of the walkout, I can assure everyone on Atlas that it had nothing to do with trans kids, CRT, or the gubernatorial election in any way.

Also CRT is bullsh**t we learn the opposite so that's all a bunch of lies too
Seems that in general the school board might have been stuck in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation?

Oh fully, there was nothing the school board could have done in this situation, period. It was completely out of their hands, to the point where they didn't even know what happened to this kid because it was a criminal matter at that point.
Who, if anyone, will suffer electorally on local level because of this scandal? The school board? The DA? County Executives?
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« Reply #2836 on: October 30, 2021, 02:08:42 PM »

as someone who's worked with the mcauliffe team since march, I can tell yall that if he loses it is fully because of the terrible organization of his campaign. the loudoun and Fairfax dems are also  absolutely awful at their jobs and have let the GOP completely control the narrative. meanwhile they are handwriting postcards to safe d houses asking them to vote... at the early voting location in loudoun there are 5 GOP helpers handing out voting guides and not a single democrat there.... they truly do not have their sh**t together. trumpkin was a campaign tactic doomed to fail when the GOP candidate is essentially mitt romney... this was a perfect storm of sh**tty campaigning from the dems, so if youngkin wins, I don't think it means anything about the partisanship of the state other than the fact that va dems are SOOO BADDD
Any individuals who are particularly incompetent in the VA Dems, or is it too broadly spread out to justify singling out anyone?

I know there was a major campaign restructuring in the summer for Terry's campaign that resulted in 2 months of dead silence while all the CRT/SB bullsh**t was going on, so that definitely didn't help. I don't think it is an issue with VA Dems as much as it is Terry's campaign just not knowing what they are doing. They clearly thought this race was safe until September so they didn't even campaign or do anything until that point whereas Youngkin has been out fighting all year. He has run an excellent campaign all things considered.


Also, as a Loudoun resident and LCPS student, I think it's crucial that everybody understands what is happening with this rape situation. The blame in placing this kid back into LCPS has nothing to do with the school board as it was out of their hands at that point (criminal charges). They legitimately did not know what happened as it was in the hands of the DA Buta Biberaj. I don't know why she decided the kid wasn't a risk (I've heard he was SPED) but she is the one who made the decision to place him back in schools, not the school board. Also, there is no evidence that this kid is trans or even was wearing a skirt other than what this girl said. I also want to say that the walkouts last week were not political in nature other than being mad at LCPS for tolerating rape culture in general (there was a specific situation at my school that exemplified this). As the kid literally in the front of the walkout, I can assure everyone on Atlas that it had nothing to do with trans kids, CRT, or the gubernatorial election in any way.

Also CRT is bullsh**t we learn the opposite so that's all a bunch of lies too
Seems that in general the school board might have been stuck in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation?

Oh fully, there was nothing the school board could have done in this situation, period. It was completely out of their hands, to the point where they didn't even know what happened to this kid because it was a criminal matter at that point.
Who, if anyone, will suffer electorally on local level because of this scandal? The school board? The DA? County Executives?

Those elections are in 2023
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« Reply #2837 on: October 30, 2021, 02:18:11 PM »

Hopping back into the election for a moment, what are the areas of the state to watch come election night?

My political knowledge of VA is largely limited to NoVA = Democratic, not-NoVA = Republican. 




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« Reply #2838 on: October 30, 2021, 02:18:24 PM »

There is one way in which I agree that T-Mac totally screwed up, and it's not the education issue... nobody on the ground cares about that.  

He should have focused A LOT more on the abortion issue and what Texas did.  He should have framed the argument as not theoretical.  When the GOP was in power last time they had another ridiculous heartbeat bill here in VA.  

The pro-life position is very very unpopular here in Virginia, and among NOVA swing voters in particular.  A lot of women I've talked to bring this issue up not school boards.  It was a mistake to not make every closing ad not about abortion.
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« Reply #2839 on: October 30, 2021, 02:20:07 PM »

There is one way in which I agree that T-Mac totally screwed up, and it's not the education issue... nobody on the ground cares about that.  

He should have focused A LOT more on the abortion issue and what Texas did.  He should have framed the argument as not theoretical.  When the GOP was in power last time they had another ridiculous heartbeat bill here in VA.  

The pro-life position is very very unpopular here in Virginia, and among NOVA swing voters in particular.  A lot of women I've talked to bring this issue up not school boards.  It was a mistake to not make every closing ad not about abortion.
Gosh NoVa women are so unbased (but I will pretend otherwise if they vote for TMAC)
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« Reply #2840 on: October 30, 2021, 02:21:19 PM »

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« Reply #2841 on: October 30, 2021, 02:22:44 PM »

Keep this thread on topic please you people have made me return from my slumber.
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« Reply #2842 on: October 30, 2021, 02:23:44 PM »

There is one way in which I agree that T-Mac totally screwed up, and it's not the education issue... nobody on the ground cares about that.  

He should have focused A LOT more on the abortion issue and what Texas did.  He should have framed the argument as not theoretical.  When the GOP was in power last time they had another ridiculous heartbeat bill here in VA.  

The pro-life position is very very unpopular here in Virginia, and among NOVA swing voters in particular.  A lot of women I've talked to bring this issue up not school boards.  It was a mistake to not make every closing ad not about abortion.
Gosh NoVa women are so unbased (but I will pretend otherwise if they vote for TMAC)

NOVA women are all over the place.  I knew that Bernie was gonna do bad in the 2020 primaries because half of them were saying they were going to vote Biden because he's more electable.  A bunch of the super progressives liked Warren and Buttigieg personally.  A bunch of the moderates also liked Warren. 

I am still confident they all come home for T-Mac. 
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« Reply #2843 on: October 30, 2021, 02:25:27 PM »

as someone who's worked with the mcauliffe team since march, I can tell yall that if he loses it is fully because of the terrible organization of his campaign. the loudoun and Fairfax dems are also  absolutely awful at their jobs and have let the GOP completely control the narrative. meanwhile they are handwriting postcards to safe d houses asking them to vote... at the early voting location in loudoun there are 5 GOP helpers handing out voting guides and not a single democrat there.... they truly do not have their sh**t together. trumpkin was a campaign tactic doomed to fail when the GOP candidate is essentially mitt romney... this was a perfect storm of sh**tty campaigning from the dems, so if youngkin wins, I don't think it means anything about the partisanship of the state other than the fact that va dems are SOOO BADDD
Any individuals who are particularly incompetent in the VA Dems, or is it too broadly spread out to justify singling out anyone?

I know there was a major campaign restructuring in the summer for Terry's campaign that resulted in 2 months of dead silence while all the CRT/SB bullsh**t was going on, so that definitely didn't help. I don't think it is an issue with VA Dems as much as it is Terry's campaign just not knowing what they are doing. They clearly thought this race was safe until September so they didn't even campaign or do anything until that point whereas Youngkin has been out fighting all year. He has run an excellent campaign all things considered.


Also, as a Loudoun resident and LCPS student, I think it's crucial that everybody understands what is happening with this rape situation. The blame in placing this kid back into LCPS has nothing to do with the school board as it was out of their hands at that point (criminal charges). They legitimately did not know what happened as it was in the hands of the DA Buta Biberaj. I don't know why she decided the kid wasn't a risk (I've heard he was SPED) but she is the one who made the decision to place him back in schools, not the school board. Also, there is no evidence that this kid is trans or even was wearing a skirt other than what this girl said. I also want to say that the walkouts last week were not political in nature other than being mad at LCPS for tolerating rape culture in general (there was a specific situation at my school that exemplified this). As the kid literally in the front of the walkout, I can assure everyone on Atlas that it had nothing to do with trans kids, CRT, or the gubernatorial election in any way.

Also CRT is bullsh**t we learn the opposite so that's all a bunch of lies too

If you are serious and not a troll, you might have inadvertently helped Youngkin anyway because that was NOT the narrative that went around. I keep hammering away here about the importance of OPTICS that so many Democrats just don't seem to comprehend. In politics, it doesn't matter what people's actual motives or intentions are. What matters is how it is conveyed by the media and perceived by the voters. And this walkout contributed to a perception of a Loudoun County in chaos thanks to wokeness gone mad, to the point that even the kids are fed up with it. Regardless of whether that's true or not, it's the narrative that's being widely spread nationally, and I imagine within much of your state as well.
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« Reply #2844 on: October 30, 2021, 02:32:22 PM »

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« Reply #2845 on: October 30, 2021, 02:32:37 PM »


Did you make this ?
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« Reply #2846 on: October 30, 2021, 02:34:25 PM »

Yeah obviously no heartbeat bills or the like but expect some basic restrictions if Sears and the GOP HOD win.
Joe Morrissey will vote for stuff like waiting periods.
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« Reply #2847 on: October 30, 2021, 02:34:38 PM »

From Roanoke College poll

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« Reply #2848 on: October 30, 2021, 02:35:15 PM »

When I talked about mods, I didn't mean this set of mods, lol.
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« Reply #2849 on: October 30, 2021, 02:38:25 PM »


No I found it on the Campaign Trail subreddit. Not a real mod, just a meme.
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