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« Reply #3225 on: November 16, 2021, 10:23:26 PM »

If Goldman Sachs is to be believed Inflation will peak at the end of this year before declining in 2022



Goldman also sees the unemployment rate falling to "3.7% at mid-year and 3.5% at the end of the year. The unemployment rate will match 50-year low by end of 2022

Now I for am very skeptical of anything coming from Goldman Sachs, but if their projection does turn out to true, then 2022 would be a very different political environment for both Biden and Republicans than it currently is right now



the dems won 40 house seats in a 2018 economy that was just fine.

the stubbornness with some of you is astounding. Presidents with 41% approval ratings don't turn around a year later and see their party do well in off year elections.

This is deja vu 2018 in reverse. I and many other repubs kept on telling myself that 2018 would be just fine. things would improve with the polls, etc.

it didn't happen.
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« Reply #3226 on: November 16, 2021, 10:39:26 PM »
« Edited: November 17, 2021, 10:55:47 AM by roxas11 »

If Goldman Sachs is to be believed Inflation will peak at the end of this year before declining in 2022



Goldman also sees the unemployment rate falling to "3.7% at mid-year and 3.5% at the end of the year. The unemployment rate will match 50-year low by end of 2022

Now I for am very skeptical of anything coming from Goldman Sachs, but if their projection does turn out to true, then 2022 would be a very different political environment for both Biden and Republicans than it currently is right now



the dems won 40 house seats in a 2018 economy that was just fine.

the stubbornness with some of you is astounding. Presidents with 41% approval ratings don't turn around a year later and see their party do well in off year elections.

This is deja vu 2018 in reverse. I and many other repubs kept on telling myself that 2018 would be just fine. things would improve with the polls, etc.

it didn't happen.

No Democrat in their right mind should be thinking everything will be fine just because things may improve when comes to inflation or the economy because as we all know even if those issues are resolved there will always be new challenges for the president and his party

Now, having said that it's hard for me to compare 2018 to 2022 because Trump was a far more controversial figure who let his crazy tweets overshadow anything positive that happened while he was in office. As you said the economy was doing well, but nobody was talking about it at the time because Trump had the media focused on stuff like this......


Also unlike Biden by the time the 2018 midterms came around Trump had largely failed to fulfill many of his campaign promises.

1.He did not repeal and replace Obamcare
2.He did not end the forever wars and get out Afghanistan like he said he would
3.He did not get an infrastructure bill passed
4.He did not even build the wall that he talked about during the 2016 campaign

The only thing he passed was a Tax cut that became so unpopular that Trump himself stopped talking about it during the 2018 campaign and instead he decided to focus on migrant caravans during his rallies. In the end many Republicans around the country felt like by both Paul Ryan and Trump had let them down by not delivering on many of their big promises
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« Reply #3227 on: November 16, 2021, 11:38:33 PM »

If the unemployment rate actually follows to mid 3% and inflation is cut in half, then yeah, dems may be able to salvage this midterm. I doubt it's going to happen, though.
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« Reply #3228 on: November 17, 2021, 04:59:08 AM »

You can count on this: the GOP and its fronts will seek bogeymen to scare people about non-existent menaces such as Critical Race Theory. Know at all times: the GOP is the Party of the slumlord, the loan-shark, the rapacious tycoon, and an an executive elite that acts iike the old Soviet nomenklatura. Its ideology now encompasses the Confederate flag, the banner of the defense of slavery and now such cranky stuff as General Winfield Mattoon Scott -- excuse me, Michael Flynn  -- who thinks that America needs only one religion so that it can unify behind one interpretation of reality. They had America and bungled the response to COVID-19 at a cost characteristic of a major war.

These people play a cat-and-mouse game in which what they win is to remain theirs in perpetuity and that whatever the Other Side must be put at risk every time until some miracle favors them.. When they get enough  miracles working for them, then they can establish their Union of  (fundamentalist) Christian and Corporate States. If you think of such reminiscent of another Evil Empire, the old Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, then I intended that allusion. 


 
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« Reply #3229 on: November 17, 2021, 07:22:59 AM »



There's nothing pundits love more than screaming "new low!!!" every time it drops like 0.2%
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« Reply #3230 on: November 17, 2021, 08:58:24 AM »

You can count on this: the GOP and its fronts will seek bogeymen to scare people about non-existent menaces such as Critical Race Theory. Know at all times: the GOP is the Party of the slumlord, the loan-shark, the rapacious tycoon, and an an executive elite that acts iike the old Soviet nomenklatura. Its ideology now encompasses the Confederate flag, the banner of the defense of slavery and now such cranky stuff as General Winfield Mattoon Scott -- excuse me, Michael Flynn  -- who thinks that America needs only one religion so that it can unify behind one interpretation of reality. They had America and bungled the response to COVID-19 at a cost characteristic of a major war.

These people play a cat-and-mouse game in which what they win is to remain theirs in perpetuity and that whatever the Other Side must be put at risk every time until some miracle favors them.. When they get enough  miracles working for them, then they can establish their Union of  (fundamentalist) Christian and Corporate States. If you think of such reminiscent of another Evil Empire, the old Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, then I intended that allusion. 

Cool story bro
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« Reply #3231 on: November 17, 2021, 09:14:30 AM »



There's nothing pundits love more than screaming "new low!!!" every time it drops like 0.2%
New low: 41,7😚
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« Reply #3232 on: November 17, 2021, 09:23:42 AM »

The Economist/YouGov weekly tracker, Nov. 14-16, 1500 adults including 1299 RV


Adults:

Approve 43 (+1)
Disapprove 49 (+1)

Strongly approve 18 (+1)
Strongly disapprove 39 (+2)


RV:

Approve 43 (-2)
Disapprove 51 (+2)

Strongly approve 20 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 41 (+2)

GCB (RV only): D 42 (-2), R 38 (+1)
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« Reply #3233 on: November 17, 2021, 09:24:25 AM »

America deserves what it is about to elect in 2022 and 2024. I just hope people like THG and OSR remember what they did. The sins crawling up their backs as they slowly watch everything they thought they valued crumble to dust. As they watch their leaders turn on eachother until the Republican triumvirate becomes one man. As they watch even those they respect forced into silence, under the guise of preventing them hinge such as CRT and socialism. As they watch years later, the inevitable carnage that comes with any collapsing dictatorship. Neighbor upon neighbor, childhood friend against childhood friend. Yes I will suffer as well, but at least I get to watch the ones who created it cry at their lost ones, knowing full well they caused each and every loss they had.
Schafenfreude truly is the most bittersweet emotion.
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« Reply #3234 on: November 17, 2021, 10:11:59 AM »

If Goldman Sachs is to be believed Inflation will peak at the end of this year before declining in 2022



Goldman also sees the unemployment rate falling to "3.7% at mid-year and 3.5% at the end of the year. The unemployment rate will match 50-year low by end of 2022

Now I for am very skeptical of anything coming from Goldman Sachs, but if their projection does turn out to true, then 2022 would be a very different political environment for both Biden and Republicans than it currently is right now


I see, at least you are consistent in not trusting any experts. It's not only GS, the consensus right now is, that US'll have a healthy recovery and the inflation ~at 3% around midterms.  GS is, probably, a bit more optimistic than consensus, but not too much. Both GS and others think, though, there will be a really large inflation in coming 4-6 months (~6%, that is higher than wage growth). Thus, the question is, if the voters still remember it, when they go and vote or not.
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« Reply #3235 on: November 17, 2021, 10:13:20 AM »

America deserves what it is about to elect in 2022 and 2024. I just hope people like THG and OSR remember what they did. The sins crawling up their backs as they slowly watch everything they thought they valued crumble to dust. As they watch their leaders turn on eachother until the Republican triumvirate becomes one man. As they watch even those they respect forced into silence, under the guise of preventing them hinge such as CRT and socialism. As they watch years later, the inevitable carnage that comes with any collapsing dictatorship. Neighbor upon neighbor, childhood friend against childhood friend. Yes I will suffer as well, but at least I get to watch the ones who created it cry at their lost ones, knowing full well they caused each and every loss they had.
Schafenfreude truly is the most bittersweet emotion.


IT WILL BE MUCH WORSE THAN UNDER HITLER!!!!!!!11111
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« Reply #3236 on: November 17, 2021, 12:00:19 PM »

America deserves what it is about to elect in 2022 and 2024. I just hope people like THG and OSR remember what they did. The sins crawling up their backs as they slowly watch everything they thought they valued crumble to dust. As they watch their leaders turn on eachother until the Republican triumvirate becomes one man. As they watch even those they respect forced into silence, under the guise of preventing them hinge such as CRT and socialism. As they watch years later, the inevitable carnage that comes with any collapsing dictatorship. Neighbor upon neighbor, childhood friend against childhood friend. Yes I will suffer as well, but at least I get to watch the ones who created it cry at their lost ones, knowing full well they caused each and every loss they had.
Schafenfreude truly is the most bittersweet emotion.


Part of the problem is that most Americans simply do not know how their own political system works and most of them vote purely based on their emotions. Far too many don't even have knowledge or facts about their issue or the candidate they are about to vote for

for example a coworker of mine who voted for Republicans in 2010 because he said Obama was not doing enough and he called the Dems The do nothing congress

He had no idea that he had just voted for The tea party congress who would go down in history for being the least productive Congress since modern records began in 1947. He would spend next few years wondering why the congress he voted for was doing even less than the Dems that he had complained about in the first place...
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« Reply #3237 on: November 17, 2021, 12:31:03 PM »

America deserves what it is about to elect in 2022 and 2024. I just hope people like THG and OSR remember what they did. The sins crawling up their backs as they slowly watch everything they thought they valued crumble to dust. As they watch their leaders turn on eachother until the Republican triumvirate becomes one man. As they watch even those they respect forced into silence, under the guise of preventing them hinge such as CRT and socialism. As they watch years later, the inevitable carnage that comes with any collapsing dictatorship. Neighbor upon neighbor, childhood friend against childhood friend. Yes I will suffer as well, but at least I get to watch the ones who created it cry at their lost ones, knowing full well they caused each and every loss they had.
Schafenfreude truly is the most bittersweet emotion.


Part of the problem is that most Americans simply do not know how their own political system works and most of them vote purely based on their emotions. Far too many don't even have knowledge or facts about their issue or the candidate they are about to vote for

for example a coworker of mine who voted for Republicans in 2010 because he said Obama was not doing enough and he called the Dems The do nothing congress

He had no idea that he had just voted for The tea party congress who would go down in history for being the least productive Congress since modern records began in 1947. He would spend next few years wondering why the congress he voted for was doing even less than the Dems that he had complained about in the first place...

Well if it makes you feel better, the American people will get to face the consequences of their failures like never before if things go the way I think they will.
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« Reply #3238 on: November 17, 2021, 04:10:43 PM »

Something to watch out for

An interesting thing happened to Trump at the start of 2018. His awful 37% ratings creeped up to 43-44% and stayed there basically until 2021. It was the most stationary rating in history

Will the same happen to Joe? Will his ratings creep up a bit in 22 and then stay the same forever?
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« Reply #3239 on: November 17, 2021, 05:15:02 PM »
« Edited: November 17, 2021, 05:18:22 PM by roxas11 »

Something to watch out for

An interesting thing happened to Trump at the start of 2018. His awful 37% ratings creeped up to 43-44% and stayed there basically until 2021. It was the most stationary rating in history

Will the same happen to Joe? Will his ratings creep up a bit in 22 and then stay the same forever?

The reason trump numbers did not move much after 2018 was because most voters had made their mind up about him at that point

The never trump Republicans who did not care for him in 2017 had fallen in line behind him by the end of 2018 and this a big reason why trump would never again fall as low as he did in 2017 when he dropped to 36 percent

even after the capitol riots, his number was still not as low as it was 2017 because at the point most Republican were with him unlike in his first year office when there was still a sizable chunk of Republicans were still unsure about him and were not willing to support him


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« Reply #3240 on: November 18, 2021, 07:05:31 AM »

Biden Approvals are tied in the next several weeks on what happens on the Debt Ceiling once everything is passed his Approvals will go up but Biden is doing like Trump he can't strike an Early deal to head of a Govt Shutdown over the Debt Ceiling which would be a Partial one

But, clearly, should everything pass, Biden will become popular again
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« Reply #3241 on: November 18, 2021, 08:34:06 AM »

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« Reply #3242 on: November 18, 2021, 08:51:52 AM »

https://www.marquette.edu/news-center/2021/new-marquette-law-poll-finds-majority-of-republicans-favor-a-trump-run-for-president-in-2024.php


Approve; 49%
Disapprove; 51%
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« Reply #3243 on: November 18, 2021, 09:35:46 AM »
« Edited: November 18, 2021, 09:41:09 AM by pbrower2a »


With this level of approval, the state-to-state map should start to look much better as new statewide numbers emerge.  

Keep salivating, Republicans! This is close to a win analogous to Reagan versus Carter in 1980 as you will ever see.




Biden approval:


positive and between 50% and 54%
positive and under 50%
white: tie
negativeand between 45% and 49%
negative and between 40% and 45%
negative and  below 40%
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« Reply #3244 on: November 18, 2021, 09:37:56 AM »


It appears that he is generally recovering but Dems are in disarray. How else do you explain a 50/50 approval rating yet are disapproved by 15% of Democrats?
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« Reply #3245 on: November 18, 2021, 09:39:58 AM »



Shame on Big Serg, you know Biden Approvals are gonna go up as soon as we get thru the Debt Ceiling increase and VR and BBB, there is an R Filibuster and hopefully Manchin abd Sinema change the runs on the Debt Ceiling so we can pass BBB and VR


BiDEN WONT BE AT 40 PERCEBT APPROVAKS ONCE EVERYTHING PASSES, TED STRICKLAND WAS WINNING REELECTION OVER KASICH A YE BEFORE THE ELECTION

BIG SERG  ONLY PUTS OUT POLLs HE LIKES, THIS ISNT AUGUST 22 YET


That's why Sinema is hurting the D party they are only using her and Manchin to get back in control, Rs aren't gonna think about her priorities when they win back, the Rs failure to censure their own party member shows they should never be back

Cali, IL,NY can Redistrict 5 seats that are lost in red States
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« Reply #3246 on: November 18, 2021, 09:40:59 AM »

Something to watch out for

An interesting thing happened to Trump at the start of 2018. His awful 37% ratings creeped up to 43-44% and stayed there basically until 2021. It was the most stationary rating in history

Will the same happen to Joe? Will his ratings creep up a bit in 22 and then stay the same forever?

Voters of the President’s party tend to come home once the election gets closer.  This also happened with Bush in 2006.  He was in the high 30s for much of that year, but inched up into the low to mid 40s by Election Day.
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« Reply #3247 on: November 18, 2021, 09:41:32 AM »

(A/B)-rated Marquette Law School
https://law.marquette.edu/poll/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/MLSPSC05Toplines.html
NOV 1-10, 2021
1,004 Adults


Adults:
49 (+1 since SEP 7-16)
51 (-1)

GE:
Biden 42 (-3)
Trump 34 (-7)





(A-)-rated Quinnipiac University
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3827
NOV 11-15, 2021
1,378 A
1,262 RV


Adults:
36 (-1 since OCT 15-18)
53 (+1)

RV:
38 (-2)
53 (+2)

GB:
R 46% (-1 since OCT 1-4)
D 41% (-3)

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« Reply #3248 on: November 18, 2021, 09:43:44 AM »

Something to watch out for

An interesting thing happened to Trump at the start of 2018. His awful 37% ratings creeped up to 43-44% and stayed there basically until 2021. It was the most stationary rating in history

Will the same happen to Joe? Will his ratings creep up a bit in 22 and then stay the same forever?

Voters of the President’s party tend to come home once the election gets closer.  This also happened with Bush in 2006.  He was in the high 30s for much of that year, but inched up into the low to mid 40s by Election Day.

Yeah and polls a yrlear before the Election are flawed Ted Strickland was winning Reelection over Kasich a yr before the Election too
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« Reply #3249 on: November 18, 2021, 09:52:30 AM »

More from Quinni


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In an open-ended question, allowing for any answer, Americans were asked what they thought was the most important problem facing the country today. Americans' most frequent responses are...

Division/Polarization: 11 percent;
The economy: 10 percent;
Immigration/Border security: 8 percent;
Inflation/High cost of living: 8 percent.

Americans were asked which party would do the best job handling the problem they mentioned: a plurality (46 percent) say the Republican party, 35 percent say the Democratic party, and 18 percent did not offer an opinion.

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On four separate issues, Biden receives his lowest grades so far on each of them. Americans were asked about his handling of...

the response to the coronavirus: 45 percent approve, while 50 percent disapprove;
climate change: 41 percent approve, while 48 percent disapprove;
the economy: 34 percent approve, while 59 percent disapprove;
foreign policy: 33 percent approve, while 55 percent disapprove.

When it comes to Biden's personal traits, Americans were asked whether or not Biden...

cares about average Americans: 47 percent say yes, while 47 percent say no;
is honest: 42 percent say yes, while 51 percent say no;
has good leadership skills: 37 percent say yes, while 57 percent say no.
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