The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

[Badger]

Republicans have been openly campaigning on reversing Roe for 40+ years

And they've been openly campaigning on reversing Obergefell for 7 years.

No they have not . Putting stuff on a virtue signaling  platform is different than actively campaigning on stuff.

No, it's not different.

Why would they include it on their platform if they didn't actually want to do it?

Parties don’t implement 90% of their platform

[certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

Fauci is a bigger threat to our democracy than trump ever was..

[Horus]

Good. Corporations always have and always will win.

[Schiff for Senate]

Good. Corporations always have and always will win.

Can't blame you - the post was most certainly absurd.

My real position is this: just as employees have a right to unionize and demand higher wages or benefits or shorter hours, employers have the right to fight back against those unions. What Amazon did was harsh, but it was also, if not justified, something that's understandable and certainly something they were well within their rights to do. I was well aware that the liberal posters on here would decry this decision - and perhaps not wrongly so. I mean Amazon is within their rights to fire the employees, but it was still a bad thing. This post was mostly ironic and done partly to provoke the left-wingers on here. Pro-business though I am and as much as I know Amazon was within its rights to do this, I'm also not someone who hates the workers and the working class, or some corporate bootlicker. This post does not in reality reflect my views, obviously. Corporations don't always win and this wasn't a good move in the sense that I support it (though it is good from a strategic standpoint).

[Badger]

Beep boop is certainly on a streak recently. Regarding leaking SCOTUS justices home addresses:

If leaking the address is not an incitement of violence , neither is Trump’s speech on January 6th .

Honorable mention for his other posts in that thread where he goes full on fascist by calling for the police to be used "clear out" peaceful protestors.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Beep boop is certainly on a streak recently. Regarding leaking SCOTUS justices home addresses:

If leaking the address is not an incitement of violence , neither is Trump’s speech on January 6th .

Honorable mention for his other posts in that thread where he goes full on fascist by calling for the police to be used "clear out" peaceful protestors.

Red Avatars are literally making the same defenses Trump hacks did regarding his disgusting behavior .

[Sestak]

Beep boop is certainly on a streak recently. Regarding leaking SCOTUS justices home addresses:

If leaking the address is not an incitement of violence , neither is Trump’s speech on January 6th .

Honorable mention for his other posts in that thread where he goes full on fascist by calling for the police to be used "clear out" peaceful protestors.

Red Avatars are literally making the same defenses Trump hacks did regarding his disgusting behavior .

Except that protesting in the street is perfectly legal behavior. No one has stormed the homes of any of the justice’s homes, nor has anyone advocated for this. Far cry from trump telling everyone to show up on Jan 6th to “take back control”.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Beep boop is certainly on a streak recently. Regarding leaking SCOTUS justices home addresses:

If leaking the address is not an incitement of violence , neither is Trump’s speech on January 6th .

Honorable mention for his other posts in that thread where he goes full on fascist by calling for the police to be used "clear out" peaceful protestors.

Red Avatars are literally making the same defenses Trump hacks did regarding his disgusting behavior .

Except that protesting in the street is perfectly legal behavior. No one has stormed the homes of any of the justice’s homes, nor has anyone advocated for this. Far cry from trump telling everyone to show up on Jan 6th to “take back control”.

I was comparing the act of the leaker here not the individual protesters to the rioters . The leaker is clearly inciting violence and needs to be arrested

[T'Chenka]

Fauci is a bigger threat to our democracy than trump ever was..

Lmao... never go Full Republican (especially if you're a red avatar).

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Fauci is a bigger threat to our democracy than trump ever was..

Lmao... never go Full Republican (especially if you're a red avatar).

Fauci is never the problem , we always had Diseases this is the first disease that we have had Social Distancing, if we had chicken pox, measles and mumps like we had in the 80s, we had no technology back then, there would be social distancing and we still have TB, Hepititis and AIDS that are spread thru Prostitutes and homeless people, I caught chicken pox

They're cracking down on Prostitution now, because of the COVID cases, they were ignoring it, they are many more undercover cops waiting to book someone and that is so stupid to be booked on soliciting on sex and ruin your record  and can't get a job

[Frodo]

Beep boop is certainly on a streak recently. Regarding leaking SCOTUS justices home addresses:

If leaking the address is not an incitement of violence , neither is Trump’s speech on January 6th .

Honorable mention for his other posts in that thread where he goes full on fascist by calling for the police to be used "clear out" peaceful protestors.

Red Avatars are literally making the same defenses Trump hacks did regarding his disgusting behavior .

Except that protesting in the street is perfectly legal behavior. No one has stormed the homes of any of the justice’s homes, nor has anyone advocated for this. Far cry from trump telling everyone to show up on Jan 6th to “take back control”.

Nor has anyone (as far as I know) advocated kidnapping the Supreme Court justices in question, subjecting them to a kangaroo court, and then executing them for 'treason':

Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot  

[Badger]

Beep boop is certainly on a streak recently. Regarding leaking SCOTUS justices home addresses:

If leaking the address is not an incitement of violence , neither is Trump’s speech on January 6th .

Honorable mention for his other posts in that thread where he goes full on fascist by calling for the police to be used "clear out" peaceful protestors.

Red Avatars are literally making the same defenses Trump hacks did regarding his disgusting behavior .

Except that protesting in the street is perfectly legal behavior. No one has stormed the homes of any of the justice’s homes, nor has anyone advocated for this. Far cry from trump telling everyone to show up on Jan 6th to “take back control”.

I was comparing the act of the leaker here not the individual protesters to the rioters . The leaker is clearly inciting violence and needs to be arrested

"00110 Exactly the same.  1100011 Exactly the same."

Kindly cite one scrap of evidence that the leaker intended for anything more than protests outside the justices homes rather than violence as you are repeatedly and hysterically stating without basis.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Beep boop is certainly on a streak recently. Regarding leaking SCOTUS justices home addresses:

If leaking the address is not an incitement of violence , neither is Trump’s speech on January 6th .

Honorable mention for his other posts in that thread where he goes full on fascist by calling for the police to be used "clear out" peaceful protestors.

Red Avatars are literally making the same defenses Trump hacks did regarding his disgusting behavior .

Except that protesting in the street is perfectly legal behavior. No one has stormed the homes of any of the justice’s homes, nor has anyone advocated for this. Far cry from trump telling everyone to show up on Jan 6th to “take back control”.

Nor has anyone (as far as I know) advocated kidnapping the Supreme Court justices in question, subjecting them to a kangaroo court, and then executing them for 'treason':

Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot  

The people who were responsible for that were arrested, indicted and tried in court

[Хahar 🤔]

As ever, arguing with Computer89 is futile because there is no indication that he is even able to comprehend the points you make.

[OSR stands with Israel]

As ever, arguing with Computer89 is futile because there is no indication that he is even able to comprehend the points you make.

Most of us blue avatars think the same about red avatar hacks like you . The reason I can’t comprehend the points you guys make is because the points you guys make are absolutely absurd in every way and I completely reject the premise behind your arguments

[It’s so Joever]

As ever, arguing with Computer89 is futile because there is no indication that he is even able to comprehend the points you make.

Most of us blue avatars think the same about red avatar hacks like you . The reason I can’t comprehend the points you guys make is because the points you guys make are absolutely absurd in every way and I completely reject the premise behind your arguments

When it’s you alone who is referred to as extremely dull, unable to process changing information, and having a lack of critical reading skills, it seems that there really is only one common denominator, and you can look for it in the mirror.
 Contrary to your likely argument against this, most blue avatars aren’t exactly criticized for this specifically by the same posters. They are more often called evil, vile, lacking beliefs, or traitors, but NOT slow. It’s actually pretty rare for a poster to be consistently called out on their intellect. The closest I can think of is Fuzzy Bear, but even that is more compared to “brainwashed” which is different from stupid.
I’m not saying you are stupid, if we are being honest I do think you are smarter than you let on and actually do comprehend the arguments your opponents make, but there may be a bit of pride in you that just instinctively pushes you from that and compels you to make these stupid points. You’re not the only one, so don’t feel bad.

[OSR stands with Israel]

As ever, arguing with Computer89 is futile because there is no indication that he is even able to comprehend the points you make.

Most of us blue avatars think the same about red avatar hacks like you . The reason I can’t comprehend the points you guys make is because the points you guys make are absolutely absurd in every way and I completely reject the premise behind your arguments

When it’s you alone who is referred to as extremely dull, unable to process changing information, and having a lack of critical reading skills, it seems that there really is only one common denominator, and you can look for it in the mirror.
 Contrary to your likely argument against this, most blue avatars aren’t exactly criticized for this specifically by the same posters. They are more often called evil, vile, lacking beliefs, or traitors, but NOT slow. It’s actually pretty rare for a poster to be consistently called out on their intellect. The closest I can think of is Fuzzy Bear, but even that is more compared to “brainwashed” which is different from stupid.
I’m not saying you are stupid, if we are being honest I do think you are smarter than you let on and actually do comprehend the arguments your opponents make, but there may be a bit of pride in you that just instinctively pushes you from that and compels you to make these stupid points. You’re not the only one, so don’t feel bad.

I make effort posts all the time in OP's but when I do these same posters then respond with "OSR is just making excuses" for his party and ignore everything I say and have done so for years. A lot of the reason they respond I do is the fact that when I first came here i was this typical "economically conservative socially liberal" teenage Republican and many thought as I age I would become more liberal.

The fact is as I have grown older I have moved in the opposite direction and a lot of it is because of stuff that is actually happening. The vast majority of the points I make do not come from Fox but are also made by many current Democrats or former Democrats I know in IRL. The feeling I get from red avatars is they think anyone who holds these types of views are either evil, or stupid but dont even try to understand why people hold these types of views.

Why is it that I always must try understand the liberal/progressive point of view but they never even try one bit to understand the conservative point of view. Doesn't that show their lack of critical thinking skills and lack of being able to process new information as well cause I would argue by their standards it absolutely would. The main difference is because this forum is mostly dominated by liberals, their views are viewed as normal and that means their views get far more validated than mine does.

As someone who is on conservacord which is basically an server for "Atlas Blue Avatars and Conservatives" , I can tell you that I am not the only one who has this criticism of these types red avatars .

[It’s so Joever]

As ever, arguing with Computer89 is futile because there is no indication that he is even able to comprehend the points you make.

Most of us blue avatars think the same about red avatar hacks like you . The reason I can’t comprehend the points you guys make is because the points you guys make are absolutely absurd in every way and I completely reject the premise behind your arguments

When it’s you alone who is referred to as extremely dull, unable to process changing information, and having a lack of critical reading skills, it seems that there really is only one common denominator, and you can look for it in the mirror.
 Contrary to your likely argument against this, most blue avatars aren’t exactly criticized for this specifically by the same posters. They are more often called evil, vile, lacking beliefs, or traitors, but NOT slow. It’s actually pretty rare for a poster to be consistently called out on their intellect. The closest I can think of is Fuzzy Bear, but even that is more compared to “brainwashed” which is different from stupid.
I’m not saying you are stupid, if we are being honest I do think you are smarter than you let on and actually do comprehend the arguments your opponents make, but there may be a bit of pride in you that just instinctively pushes you from that and compels you to make these stupid points. You’re not the only one, so don’t feel bad.

I make effort posts all the time in OP's but when I do these same posters then respond with "OSR is just making excuses" for his party and ignore everything I say and have done so for years. A lot of the reason they respond I do is the fact that when I first came here i was this typical "economically conservative socially liberal" teenage Republican and many thought as I age I would become more liberal.

The fact is as I have grown older I have moved in the opposite direction and a lot of it is because of stuff that is actually happening. The vast majority of the points I make do not come from Fox but are also made by many current Democrats or former Democrats I know in IRL. The feeling I get from red avatars is they think anyone who holds these types of views are either evil, or stupid but dont even try to understand why people hold these types of views.

Why is it that I always must try understand the liberal/progressive point of view but they never even try one bit to understand the conservative point of view. Doesn't that show their lack of critical thinking skills and lack of being able to process new information as well cause I would argue by their standards it absolutely would. The main difference is because this forum is mostly dominated by liberals, their views are viewed as normal and that means their views get far more validated than mine does.

As someone who is on conservacord which is basically an server for "Atlas Blue Avatars and Conservatives" , I can tell you that I am not the only one who has this criticism of these types red avatars .

Dude I understand how this forum operates when you go against the current politically speaking, from Covid-19 to basic ethics, i differ a lot from people here and I think you would agree with that. That being said, I have not had my intellect called into question (my sanity yes, but that one is fair)
You are more likely to be called out for stupidity if you are going against the current, but only if you are showing it in the first place. That’s the general rule it seems from my own view.

Now let’s be clear, I just said you weren’t the only one, so don’t try the “what about xyz”. Yeah XYZ also might sound like an idiot, you can also sound like an idiot

Evil is a subjective term…so to say anyone who disagrees with me is evil definitely doesn’t show an inability to understand their opponents…even if it shows inflexibility. Although you are going based off of these perceived feelings that this is how red avatars see everyone…but you have not addressed that you could be wrong there. More importantly, I still do question to extent to which you actually believe this deep down. If anything, I wonder whether this is an attempt to change the subject a bit (not by you consciously necessarily) so that we don’t address why you could have difficulty admitting you are wrong when new information as presented. Examine yourself, what would it feel like to write “I was wrong, I am going to change my views because of this new information.”
What reaction did you have just now to that?

That’s the real question behind all of this.

[Schiff for Senate]

Came across this outrage only today.

Can we take away bronz's ability to create threads?

Bronz's OPs are the most memorable ones I've seen on this site with very few exceptions. Banning him from creating threads would be an outrage and a travesty. I mean, Bronz is the one who created the following threads:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=492774.msg8590343#msg8590343
https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=484630.msg8500108#msg8500108

This is just two of many, but these two speak volumes and are some of the funniest recent threads on here. There are a lot more such threads, but I rest my case.

[AtorBoltox]

.......the fact is that statically, the Australian economy had been better under Labor.

That is simply incorrect. Liberal fiscal management under Peter Costello was first class, one of the best Treasurers of the modern era.

In simple terms, the Liberal Party are more focussed on economic development and business. The Liberal Party is traditionally more aligned with the largest banks and mining companies.

The Labor Party are more focussed on social issues and environmental and climate issues. They are more linked with union movement etc.

So it is absurd that one could argue that the Labor Party is better at managing the economy.

[Schiff for Senate]

Based on a thread that's currently up in USGD, be it because the current Constitution is naturally replaced, or the federal government eventually fades away, or the U.S. goes the way of the USSR, or a (natural?) disaster or a (civil?) war happens that's so bad, it results in deeply structural & constitutional changes in this country... what do you think the separate countries' Constitutions would look like thereafter? How much divergence would there be in their governmental structures? Would their Bills of Rights, if existent in either document, substantively differ? Hell, what would these countries' names be?

Though really many of the posts in this thread could also get in. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the posters themselves are posting in bad faith and these are good hypotheticals to consider, but I still consider it Absurd to be constantly discussing secession. It's not healthy. We need to stop doing this. On that note, here are a couple more posts -

Whether it’s because the Federal Government eventually fades away or the United States going the way of the USSR or say a disaster or a war that is so bad, that it makes a Federal Government impractical …
What do you think would happen thereafter? How much divergence would there be culturally after 10 or 20 generations? Would they speak different languages or have a different appearance? If there is no longer a unified  “American” identity, would at least some people consider themselves “American” in the year 3000 even though there culture might be totally alien? What about those that stop considering themselves American, how would they identify as?

I've had a more superficial thought about this. If we did some form of amicable divorce, who gets the nukes? I suppose there could be a sharing situation, but the international community would probably have major issues with any form of equitable division of the nukes. I think any division of the United States would probably require a common defense treaty among the new nations.

To answer your question, I'll actually answer it later. I just wanted to say that part above. However, if there's one thing I do believe, it is that the United States as we know it will not exist in 2050.

None of these posters, like I said, posted in bad faith or anything, and the hypotheticals are interesting ones to consider, but all this secession talk is still irking me. As I said elsewhere:

My head is hurting from all these inane secession threads.
Yes, the country is bitterly polarized and deeply divided. No, we are not literally splitting ourselves into 'blue America' and 'red America' anytime soon.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

This whole thread is kinda dumb. It's just people posting posts that their political beliefs are not aligned with. Anyone who posts in here is just big mad that someone took a different opinion than them.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

We have wave insurance seats after PA, which is definitely NC, so the EC map in the S maynot exactly follow the Blue wall, so it's good not to have an R nut maps

Beasley, Ryan, Demings are our best candidate

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Just stop saying it hasn't trended rightward ffs.

Trump got a lower share of the vote than Romney. Get back to me when a Republican gets more than 45% of the vote there

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

She should not have resigned. She should've fought this under Bostock v. Clayton County.

Vile story of course, but alas it's a Trump >80% county so not unexpected. Just wish she had the guts to fight them especially as she has the law on her side.

I doubt she wanted to risk SOCTUS overturning Bostock, which they would almost certainly do.