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« Reply #4875 on: July 28, 2020, 05:59:41 PM »

78% of COVID-19 patients show signs of heart damage after recovery

The team tracked patients who had experienced a wide variety of outcomes after their diagnosis. Just two of the 100 patients had to undergo mechanical ventilation, for example, and oxygen supplementation was required in 28 patients.

All participants underwent cardiac MR imaging using “standardized and unified” protocols on 3T MRI scanners. The cohort was compared with 50 healthy control patients and 57 risk factor-matched patients.

Overall, the team found that 78 patients had abnormal imaging findings. Findings included raised myocardial native T1 (73 patients), raised myocardial native T2 (60 patients), myocardial late gadolinium enhancement (32 patients) and pericardial enhancement (22 patients). Three patients underwent a biopsy after severe abnormalities were detected; “active lymphocytic inflammation” was present in these patients, but “no evidence of any viral genome.”

https://www.cardiovascularbusiness.com/topics/cardiovascular-imaging/78-covid-19-patients-heart-damage-recovery

How much, if any, of this could just be due to bad diets or an unhealthy western lifestyle?
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« Reply #4876 on: July 28, 2020, 09:33:17 PM »

78% of COVID-19 patients show signs of heart damage after recovery

We still don't know the true ravages of the virus, but if this proves accurate it may greatly impact life expectancy in the U.S. and worldwide through 2040. Let's say 50% of the population gets the virus, and 78% of those people sustain heart problems — that's over 100 million people in the States alone. There's no doubt in my mind we will start seeing a significant number of people die in the next few years, along with an extremely overwhelmed health care system.
...Excuse me, weren’t you the one downplaying this virus a month or so ago and saying America needs to open up?
Maybe I got my avatars mixed up, but if true, do you think it was worth it?
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« Reply #4877 on: July 28, 2020, 09:34:20 PM »

78% of COVID-19 patients show signs of heart damage after recovery

The team tracked patients who had experienced a wide variety of outcomes after their diagnosis. Just two of the 100 patients had to undergo mechanical ventilation, for example, and oxygen supplementation was required in 28 patients.

All participants underwent cardiac MR imaging using “standardized and unified” protocols on 3T MRI scanners. The cohort was compared with 50 healthy control patients and 57 risk factor-matched patients.

Overall, the team found that 78 patients had abnormal imaging findings. Findings included raised myocardial native T1 (73 patients), raised myocardial native T2 (60 patients), myocardial late gadolinium enhancement (32 patients) and pericardial enhancement (22 patients). Three patients underwent a biopsy after severe abnormalities were detected; “active lymphocytic inflammation” was present in these patients, but “no evidence of any viral genome.”

https://www.cardiovascularbusiness.com/topics/cardiovascular-imaging/78-covid-19-patients-heart-damage-recovery

How much, if any, of this could just be due to bad diets or an unhealthy western lifestyle?
It’s possible.
And this is just one very small study.
That being said, we do know that lung scarring is a possible long term effect so I would be alarmed by this study and look to do more research on the hearts of Covid patients.
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« Reply #4878 on: July 28, 2020, 10:00:00 PM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 7/28 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

New - Substituting the Δ Change metric as of 7/13 on dates starting from 7/5:
ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE: What's the overall change in the total?

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7/19: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 3,896,855 (+63,584 | ΔW Change: ↑8.97% | Σ Increase: ↑1.66%)
  • Deaths: 143,269 (+392 | ΔW Change: ↑3.43% | Σ Increase: ↑0.27%)

7/20: <M>
  • Cases: 3,961,429 (+64,574 | ΔW Change: ↓1.40% | Σ Increase: ↑1.66%)
  • Deaths: 143,834 (+565 | ΔW Change: ↑21.51% | Σ Increase: ↑0.39%)

7/21: <T>
  • Cases: 4,028,569 (+67,140 | ΔW Change: ↑2.36% | Σ Increase: ↑1.69%)
  • Deaths: 144,953 (+1,119 | ΔW Change: ↑24.85% | Σ Increase: ↑0.78%)

7/22: <W>
  • Cases: 4,100,875 (+72,306 | ΔW Change: ↑0.89% | Σ Increase: ↑1.79%)
  • Deaths: 146,183 (+1,230 | ΔW Change: ↑23.37% | Σ Increase: ↑0.85%)

7/23: <Þ>
  • Cases: 4,169,991 (+69,116 | ΔW Change: ↓11.70% | Σ Increase: ↑1.69%)
  • Deaths: 147,333 (+1,150 | ΔW Change: ↑17.59% | Σ Increase: ↑0.79%)

7/24: <F>
  • Cases: 4,248,327 (+78,336 | ΔW Change: ↑4.47% | Σ Increase: ↑1.88%)
  • Deaths: 148,490 (+1,157 | ΔW Change: ↑22.30% | Σ Increase: ↑0.79%)

7/25: <S>
  • Cases: 4,315,678 (+67,351 | ΔW Change: ↑6.47% | Σ Increase: ↑1.59%)
  • Deaths: 149,395 (+905 | ΔW Change: ↑11.32% | Σ Increase: ↑0.61%)

7/26: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 4,371,839 (+56,151 | ΔW Change: ↓11.24% | Σ Increase: ↑1.30%)
  • Deaths: 149,849 (+454 | ΔW Change: ↑15.82% | Σ Increase: ↑0.30%)

7/27 (Yesterday): <M>
  • Cases: 4,433,392 (+61,553 | ΔW Change: ↓4.68% | Σ Increase: ↑1.41%)
  • Deaths: 150,444 (+595 | ΔW Change: ↑5.31% | Σ Increase: ↑0.40%)

7/28 (Today): <T>
  • Cases: 4,498,343 (+64,951 | ΔW Change: ↓3.26% | Σ Increase: ↑1.47%)
  • Deaths: 152,320 (+1,876 | ΔW Change: ↑67.65% | Σ Increase: ↑1.25%)
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« Reply #4879 on: July 29, 2020, 02:40:41 AM »

Meet the Trump's favorite new doctor

https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine?source=articles&via=rss

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A Houston doctor who praises hydroxychloroquine and says that face masks aren’t necessary to stop transmission of the highly contagious coronavirus has become a star on the right-wing internet, garnering tens of millions of views on Facebook on Monday alone. Donald Trump Jr. declared the video of Stella Immanuel a “must watch,” while Donald Trump himself retweeted the video.

Before Trump and his supporters embrace Immanuel’s medical expertise, though, they should consider other medical claims Immanuel has made—including those about alien DNA and the physical effects of having sex with witches and demons in your dreams.

Could be the new head of the CDC
Holy yikes:

"Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches.

She alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious. And, despite appearing in Washington, D.C. to lobby Congress on Monday, she has said that the government is run in part not by humans but by “reptilians” and other aliens."

"Immanuel is a registered physician in Texas, according to a Texas Medical Board database, and operates a medical clinic out of a strip mall next to her church, Firepower Ministries.

Immanuel was born in Cameroon and received her medical degree in Nigeria."

"In the sermon, Immanuel preserved special vitriol for the Magic 8-Ball, a toy that can be shaken up to “reveal” any answer. Immanuel claims the otherwise innocuous Magic 8-Ball was in fact a scheme to get children used to witchcraft.

“The 8-Ball was a psychic,” she said. "

Fact-checking just isn't Old Donnie's strongest suit.
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« Reply #4880 on: July 29, 2020, 06:13:53 AM »

...Excuse me, weren’t you the one downplaying this virus a month or so ago and saying America needs to open up?
Maybe I got my avatars mixed up, but if true, do you think it was worth it?

Here's what I said:

Brian Kemp is not an evil man. He is doing this because he fears the long term socioeconomic consequences of being on lockdown for several months. Whether this is the right decision or not remains to be seen.

It turns out opening while cases were still on the rise appears to have been a very bad idea. With that being said, it's interesting to see how Sweden has seen near record low cases this past week while other nearby European countries have seen a resurgence. Is letting the virus work through the population the way to go? I think it depends on who you ask. I will be interested to see which states get hit hard if or when the second wave sweeps through. Will Michigan and New York, states that implemented harsh lockdowns, get it worse? Will the South, which is going through it now, skip the worst impacts of the second wave? The answers remain to be seen... 
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« Reply #4881 on: July 29, 2020, 08:17:56 AM »

...Excuse me, weren’t you the one downplaying this virus a month or so ago and saying America needs to open up?
Maybe I got my avatars mixed up, but if true, do you think it was worth it?

Here's what I said:

Brian Kemp is not an evil man. He is doing this because he fears the long term socioeconomic consequences of being on lockdown for several months. Whether this is the right decision or not remains to be seen.

It turns out opening while cases were still on the rise appears to have been a very bad idea. With that being said, it's interesting to see how Sweden has seen near record low cases this past week while other nearby European countries have seen a resurgence. Is letting the virus work through the population the way to go? I think it depends on who you ask. I will be interested to see which states get hit hard if or when the second wave sweeps through. Will Michigan and New York, states that implemented harsh lockdowns, get it worse? Will the South, which is going through it now, skip the worst impacts of the second wave? The answers remain to be seen... 


My guess still is that there has to be a substantial fraction of the population that gets it before you can have "herd immunity". I'd wager its less than half, but probably more than the 2% confirmed infected rate we currently have. Maybe where New York City is now?
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« Reply #4882 on: July 29, 2020, 09:45:26 AM »


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« Reply #4883 on: July 29, 2020, 10:07:51 AM »




Gohmert is the ninth member of Congress to contract coronavirus. And like South Carolina Rep. Tom Rice who got it a month or so ago, we have a member who was refusing to wear a mask while on Capitol Hill. At this point, I would hope that any remaining Republicans who are opposed to the practice will drop their opposition and don a mask. Masks, as I've said repeatedly, should not have been politicized.
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« Reply #4884 on: July 29, 2020, 10:49:54 AM »




Ha. Ha. Ha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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« Reply #4885 on: July 29, 2020, 12:03:10 PM »

Couldn’t have happened to a better person.
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« Reply #4886 on: July 29, 2020, 12:16:42 PM »

Karma is a bitch.
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« Reply #4887 on: July 29, 2020, 02:51:49 PM »

I was first introduced to Louie Gohmert in 2015 or so when I was listening to a conservative radio program for post-debate analysis and they did an interview with him and he was rambling about crazy Facebook comments section stuff.  Obama being in the muslim brotherhood and plotting to ban Christianity and put people in slave camps, all sorts of wild nonsense.  I thought it was some random Breitbart yokel and was shocked to learn that he was a Congressman.
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« Reply #4888 on: July 29, 2020, 03:01:22 PM »

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Top US virus researcher Dr Anthony Fauci has called President Donald Trump's sharing of a video which included claims masks are not needed to fight Covid-19 "not helpful".

The video promotes a drug widely disproven to be effective in treating Covid-19.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53587527
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« Reply #4889 on: July 29, 2020, 04:12:34 PM »

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Joe Biden on Wednesday excoriated President Donald Trump for promoting on Twitter the dubious claims of Dr. Stella Immanuel, the Houston doctor who’s claimed to have effectively treated hundreds of COVID-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine, who the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee called a “crazy woman.”

In a virtual event with the UnidosUS Action Fund, a nonprofit advocating for Latino political power, Biden was asked to respond to Trump having repeatedly pushed for public schools to reopen this fall without putting into place effective measures to keep teachers and students safe.

Biden replied that Trump should “stop tweeting and start doing something about it, damn it” and “stop talking about this crazy woman he talked about last night, who's an absolute disgrace.”

Biden’s dig appeared to be in reference to Immanuel, whom Trump on Tuesday night called “very impressive” and an “important voice.”

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-slams-trump-promoting-false-covid-19-claims-crazy-woman-n1235235
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« Reply #4890 on: July 29, 2020, 04:24:37 PM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 7/28 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

New - Substituting the Δ Change metric as of 7/13 on dates starting from 7/5:
ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE: What's the overall change in the total?

Older Numbers (Hidden in spoiler mode to make the post more compact)


7/19: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 3,896,855 (+63,584 | ΔW Change: ↑8.97% | Σ Increase: ↑1.66%)
  • Deaths: 143,269 (+392 | ΔW Change: ↑3.43% | Σ Increase: ↑0.27%)

7/20: <M>
  • Cases: 3,961,429 (+64,574 | ΔW Change: ↓1.40% | Σ Increase: ↑1.66%)
  • Deaths: 143,834 (+565 | ΔW Change: ↑21.51% | Σ Increase: ↑0.39%)

7/21: <T>
  • Cases: 4,028,569 (+67,140 | ΔW Change: ↑2.36% | Σ Increase: ↑1.69%)
  • Deaths: 144,953 (+1,119 | ΔW Change: ↑24.85% | Σ Increase: ↑0.78%)

7/22: <W>
  • Cases: 4,100,875 (+72,306 | ΔW Change: ↑0.89% | Σ Increase: ↑1.79%)
  • Deaths: 146,183 (+1,230 | ΔW Change: ↑23.37% | Σ Increase: ↑0.85%)

7/23: <Þ>
  • Cases: 4,169,991 (+69,116 | ΔW Change: ↓11.70% | Σ Increase: ↑1.69%)
  • Deaths: 147,333 (+1,150 | ΔW Change: ↑17.59% | Σ Increase: ↑0.79%)

7/24: <F>
  • Cases: 4,248,327 (+78,336 | ΔW Change: ↑4.47% | Σ Increase: ↑1.88%)
  • Deaths: 148,490 (+1,157 | ΔW Change: ↑22.30% | Σ Increase: ↑0.79%)

7/25: <S>
  • Cases: 4,315,678 (+67,351 | ΔW Change: ↑6.47% | Σ Increase: ↑1.59%)
  • Deaths: 149,395 (+905 | ΔW Change: ↑11.32% | Σ Increase: ↑0.61%)

7/26: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 4,371,839 (+56,151 | ΔW Change: ↓11.24% | Σ Increase: ↑1.30%)
  • Deaths: 149,849 (+454 | ΔW Change: ↑15.82% | Σ Increase: ↑0.30%)

7/27 (Yesterday): <M>
  • Cases: 4,433,392 (+61,553 | ΔW Change: ↓4.68% | Σ Increase: ↑1.41%)
  • Deaths: 150,444 (+595 | ΔW Change: ↑5.31% | Σ Increase: ↑0.40%)

7/28 (Today): <T>
  • Cases: 4,498,343 (+64,951 | ΔW Change: ↓3.26% | Σ Increase: ↑1.47%)
  • Deaths: 152,320 (+1,876 | ΔW Change: ↑67.65% | Σ Increase: ↑1.25%)

Only thing getting thiccer than those numbers is Donnie's head.
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« Reply #4891 on: July 29, 2020, 05:23:53 PM »

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« Reply #4892 on: July 29, 2020, 05:39:15 PM »



Active cases as of July 29th. This is a much better map to look at than the total number of confirmed cases by state, as many of these cases are months old and long resolved. This map also really highlights the outbreaks ongoing in Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia, and Texas, where I expect the death count will increase in the new few weeks.
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« Reply #4893 on: July 29, 2020, 06:22:26 PM »



Active cases as of July 29th. This is a much better map to look at than the total number of confirmed cases by state, as many of these cases are months old and long resolved. This map also really highlights the outbreaks ongoing in Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia, and Texas, where I expect the death count will increase in the new few weeks.

Maryland is a bit of a surprise there. We don't often hear about them.
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« Reply #4894 on: July 29, 2020, 07:22:10 PM »


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« Reply #4895 on: July 29, 2020, 07:33:48 PM »



She's only just now mandating that??
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« Reply #4896 on: July 29, 2020, 07:45:05 PM »



She's only just now mandating that??

She made the mistake of believing that congresspeople are responsible adults.
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« Reply #4897 on: July 29, 2020, 09:59:03 PM »

Arch pls
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« Reply #4898 on: July 29, 2020, 10:29:12 PM »



She's only just now mandating that??

She made the mistake of believing that congresspeople are responsible adults.

Republicans don't wear a mask in Congress to trigger the libs.
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« Reply #4899 on: July 29, 2020, 11:15:06 PM »



Yes, Mark Curran is the winner of the GOP primary and is running against Sen. Durbin.
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