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« Reply #925 on: March 24, 2020, 03:48:01 PM »



This is one of those "rally around the president" moments of national emergency. An normal president of either party would be riding 80% approvals right now.
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« Reply #926 on: March 24, 2020, 03:50:10 PM »

It's clear at this point that it's a rally round the flag effect if you look at the approval rating of world leaders right now you have dug for it at 60% you have Emmanuel Macron and positive territory you have other world leaders going up to 60 to 70% it's kind of damning when you consider that Trump is not even able to get to 50% during this
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« Reply #927 on: March 24, 2020, 04:10:27 PM »

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« Reply #928 on: March 24, 2020, 04:46:25 PM »

Also, is Gallup still oversampling Republicans?

Not sure you'd get a 49% approval with only 43% of Independents approving and 13% of Democrats
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« Reply #929 on: March 24, 2020, 05:25:29 PM »

I've become resigned to the fact that rally-around-the-flag effects are inherently illogical and irrational. If a crisis occurs, no matter who the Head of Government is, peoples' brains seem to just go into an instinctual state of support for that person, no matter how much they actually worsened the crisis. It's moronic, but I get it now that it seems to be happening universally across the country and world with nearly every level of government. I just want it to be over with as soon as possible if we absolutely have to have one for Trump.

It's kind of funny though-okay, not really- that Trump has been trying to get a rally-around-the-flag effect throughout his entire presidency. Whether it was the death of Baghdadi, the Soleimani situation, the opiate crisis, etc. it's what he always wanted; and our populace was finally stupid enough to give it to him. I wouldn't put it past him to try and manufacture more as the election draws closer. Hopefully they will flop like his earlier attempts though, but who even knows anymore? I did not think that Trump was capable of having one at all.
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« Reply #930 on: March 24, 2020, 05:26:58 PM »

Also, is Gallup still oversampling Republicans?

Not sure you'd get a 49% approval with only 43% of Independents approving and 13% of Democrats

Yes. Democrats and Republicans are both 31% of the weighted sample. If you bump Democrats up to 34% at the expense of Indies, it comes down a point. It's never going to move more than a point or two though. If Republicans, Indies, and Democrats were all equally weighted (not true), it comes to 49% exactly so this is a best case scenario.
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« Reply #931 on: March 24, 2020, 05:56:41 PM »

I知 not so sure that this can just be chalked up to a rally effect. Does half this country even agree that there is a crisis to rally around? Does anyone really think people on the East and West coasts are rallying around a guy basically absolving himself of all responsibility and leaving them to their own devices?
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« Reply #932 on: March 24, 2020, 05:58:37 PM »

I知 not so sure that this can just be chalked up to a rally effect. Does half this country even agree that there is a crisis to rally around? Does anyone really think people on the East and West coasts are rallying around a guy basically absolving himself of all responsibility and leaving them to their own devices?

This making absolutely no sense whatsoever is why a rally effect is the only explanation.
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« Reply #933 on: March 24, 2020, 06:00:11 PM »

Guys, its gonna be a cruel few weeks for democrats in terms of polling, without question. Whether it continues is still an open question.
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« Reply #934 on: March 24, 2020, 06:12:07 PM »

Guys, its gonna be a cruel few weeks for democrats in terms of polling, without question. Whether it continues is still an open question.

History tells us it won't.
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« Reply #935 on: March 24, 2020, 06:14:30 PM »

Guys, its gonna be a cruel few weeks for democrats in terms of polling, without question. Whether it continues is still an open question.

History tells us it won't.
Generally, I would agree, but we also have to recognize the unprecedented moment we are in right now. I do NOT think it would be wise to extrapolate previous circumstances, however similar in appearance, to this.
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« Reply #936 on: March 24, 2020, 06:17:13 PM »

Guys, its gonna be a cruel few weeks for democrats in terms of polling, without question. Whether it continues is still an open question.

History tells us it won't.
Generally, I would agree, but we also have to recognize the unprecedented moment we are in right now. I do NOT think it would be wise to extrapolate previous circumstances, however similar in appearance, to this.

While pandemics are unprecedented, economic crises are not.
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« Reply #937 on: March 24, 2020, 06:23:01 PM »

I知 not so sure that this can just be chalked up to a rally effect. Does half this country even agree that there is a crisis to rally around? Does anyone really think people on the East and West coasts are rallying around a guy basically absolving himself of all responsibility and leaving them to their own devices?

Moreover, I thought that "rally around the flag" usually happens because nations unites, that is President is praised by both parties and, of course, by MS, no???
Now the opposite happens.
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« Reply #938 on: March 24, 2020, 06:29:20 PM »

I知 not so sure that this can just be chalked up to a rally effect. Does half this country even agree that there is a crisis to rally around? Does anyone really think people on the East and West coasts are rallying around a guy basically absolving himself of all responsibility and leaving them to their own devices?

Moreover, I thought that "rally around the flag" usually happens because nations unites, that is President is praised by both parties and, of course, by MS, no???
Now the opposite happens.

I have no idea how people like you think.
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« Reply #939 on: March 24, 2020, 06:30:00 PM »

I知 not so sure that this can just be chalked up to a rally effect. Does half this country even agree that there is a crisis to rally around? Does anyone really think people on the East and West coasts are rallying around a guy basically absolving himself of all responsibility and leaving them to their own devices?

Moreover, I thought that "rally around the flag" usually happens because nations unites, that is President is praised by both parties and, of course, by MS, no???
Now the opposite happens.

One could speculate that thats why Trump's boost is so muted compared to other historical rallies.  
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« Reply #940 on: March 24, 2020, 06:31:41 PM »

Guys, its gonna be a cruel few weeks for democrats in terms of polling, without question. Whether it continues is still an open question.

History tells us it won't.
Generally, I would agree, but we also have to recognize the unprecedented moment we are in right now. I do NOT think it would be wise to extrapolate previous circumstances, however similar in appearance, to this.

While pandemics are unprecedented, economic crises are not.
Absolutely, but there is still the question of whether people will blame Trump for the recession as intensely as they might otherwise due to the virus causing it, whether polarization will allow him to maintain even approvals, etc etc.
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« Reply #941 on: March 24, 2020, 06:35:00 PM »

I知 not so sure that this can just be chalked up to a rally effect. Does half this country even agree that there is a crisis to rally around? Does anyone really think people on the East and West coasts are rallying around a guy basically absolving himself of all responsibility and leaving them to their own devices?

Moreover, I thought that "rally around the flag" usually happens because nations unites, that is President is praised by both parties and, of course, by MS, no???
Now the opposite happens.

One could speculate that thats why Trump's boost is so muted compared to other historical rallies.  

Absolutely. We'll see if this "boost" is temporary.
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« Reply #942 on: March 24, 2020, 07:00:05 PM »

Guys, its gonna be a cruel few weeks for democrats in terms of polling, without question. Whether it continues is still an open question.

History tells us it won't.
Generally, I would agree, but we also have to recognize the unprecedented moment we are in right now. I do NOT think it would be wise to extrapolate previous circumstances, however similar in appearance, to this.

While pandemics are unprecedented, economic crises are not.
Absolutely, but there is still the question of whether people will blame Trump for the recession as intensely as they might otherwise due to the virus causing it, whether polarization will allow him to maintain even approvals, etc etc.

I feel like I am let down by the American public enough by now to know for a fact that Trump won't bear the brunt of a recession as much as he should, especially considering how he gets credit when the economy is good. This nation is demented and warped in the way it perceives things, and it will doom us all.
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« Reply #943 on: March 24, 2020, 07:05:42 PM »

Guys, its gonna be a cruel few weeks for democrats in terms of polling, without question. Whether it continues is still an open question.

History tells us it won't.
Generally, I would agree, but we also have to recognize the unprecedented moment we are in right now. I do NOT think it would be wise to extrapolate previous circumstances, however similar in appearance, to this.

While pandemics are unprecedented, economic crises are not.
Absolutely, but there is still the question of whether people will blame Trump for the recession as intensely as they might otherwise due to the virus causing it, whether polarization will allow him to maintain even approvals, etc etc.

I feel like I am let down by the American public enough by now to know for a fact that Trump won't bear the brunt of a recession as much as he should, especially considering how he gets credit when the economy is good. This nation is demented and warped in the way it perceives things, and it will doom us all.
If we had a fair world, Trump would not be in office. Letting yourself believe that Americans will actually look at what is happening objectively and realize what Trump is doing is just going to lead to you getting let down, my friend. I get it, it is incredibly frustrating, but the sooner you recognize it, the sooner you can make your peace with it.
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« Reply #944 on: March 24, 2020, 07:20:19 PM »

I mean seriously, Conte is at 70% job approval, Macron is above 50%. This Trump popularity rise is quite low.
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« Reply #945 on: March 24, 2020, 07:24:08 PM »

I mean seriously, Conte is at 70% job approval, Macron is above 50%. This Trump popularity rise is quite low.

We have a uniquely asinine system that can allow Trump to be re-elected with a relatively paltry approval rating though.
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« Reply #946 on: March 24, 2020, 07:30:46 PM »

YouGov (March 22-24, 1000 people)

Approve- 42% (-4)

Disapprove- 53% (+5)

Worth noting that these polls are generally a lot "noisier" than their weekly polls, but I still just wanted to post some polling.
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« Reply #947 on: March 24, 2020, 08:11:34 PM »

I知 not so sure that this can just be chalked up to a rally effect. Does half this country even agree that there is a crisis to rally around? Does anyone really think people on the East and West coasts are rallying around a guy basically absolving himself of all responsibility and leaving them to their own devices?

Moreover, I thought that "rally around the flag" usually happens because nations unites, that is President is praised by both parties and, of course, by MS, no???
Now the opposite happens.
Why should Trump praise both Parties when just like with the Impeachment the crazy House Democrats want Universal Mail-Vote in Election & Same Day Registation for all 50 States. What the HECK has this to do with COVID-19? Nothing! Pelosi is such a Dumbass.
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« Reply #948 on: March 24, 2020, 08:28:43 PM »

I mean seriously, Conte is at 70% job approval, Macron is above 50%. This Trump popularity rise is quite low.

We have a uniquely asinine system that can allow Trump to be re-elected with a relatively paltry approval rating though.

Are we sure though? Most polls have him underperforming his approval rating in match ups against Biden.
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« Reply #949 on: March 24, 2020, 10:51:36 PM »

I知 not so sure that this can just be chalked up to a rally effect. Does half this country even agree that there is a crisis to rally around? Does anyone really think people on the East and West coasts are rallying around a guy basically absolving himself of all responsibility and leaving them to their own devices?

Moreover, I thought that "rally around the flag" usually happens because nations unites, that is President is praised by both parties and, of course, by MS, no???
Now the opposite happens.

I have no idea how people like you think.

Simple. They don't.
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