OH-Sen 2022: So you’re telling me there’s a chance

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

I respect Tim Ryan for at least attempting to campaign to people who aren't just college educated liberal democratic voters onto his side. I still think, based on his voting record in Congress as well as his presidential campaign, that he is just being a fraud and will be just as liberal in the Senate. But it's a start.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I respect Tim Ryan for at least attempting to campaign to people who aren't just college educated liberal democratic voters onto his side. I still think, based on his voting record in Congress as well as his presidential campaign, that he is just being a fraud and will be just as liberal in the Senate. But it's a start.

Calling Ryan a fraud where is the GOP alternative to Student Loan Forgiveness we file Bankruptcies all the time the Bankruptcy Reform Bill 2005 eliminated Student loans from Bankruptcy, the Rs want to give Giant tax cuts for the rich Reagan, Bush W and yep gave out 2.5 T dollar each in tax CUTS, we pay payroll taxes 15 percent the middle class and rich pay income tax 40 percent which each tax cut the rich got their taxes cut to 35 percent

Ryan will be a contender for WH in 28 when he wins his Senate race and Demings will be his Veep, its call pragmatism, WC means Pragmatism not Dixiecrat, it used to be call Dixiecrat because it meant Apartheid  during Woodrow Wilson era and Jefferson era Females and most Blks men in the South during Jim Crow couldn't vote

Ryan is a blue dog like Bob Casey and Biden but it's Pragmatism not DIXIECRAT, LBJ changed the meaning of WC

[Leading Political Consultant Ma Anand Sheela]

Say it with me: yogic flying is real. I believe in yogic flying.

https://twitter.com/stella2020woof/status/1564606453113147399?t=b4Lwcd4wK8rb8IUi...

[Ferguson97]

The latest poll shows Ryan has “an impressive 23-point lead among self-ID independents.”

In the latest poll, Ryan is at plus 25 favorable with independents while Vance, a venture capitalist and author, is at minus 32.

I am skeptical of this, but if it's true... holy crap.

[Leading Political Consultant Ma Anand Sheela]

The latest poll shows Ryan has “an impressive 23-point lead among self-ID independents.”

In the latest poll, Ryan is at plus 25 favorable with independents while Vance, a venture capitalist and author, is at minus 32.

I am skeptical of this, but if it's true... holy crap.

I don't know if it's true but Vance hasn't done anything for it to not be the case.

[sting in the rafters]

I respect Tim Ryan for at least attempting to campaign to people who aren't just college educated liberal democratic voters onto his side. I still think, based on his voting record in Congress as well as his presidential campaign, that he is just being a fraud and will be just as liberal in the Senate. But it's a start.

Is it fraudulent of him to emphasize his appeal on materialistic grounds given that's been his bread-and-butter his whole career? Consider his long-standing Sinophobic-tinged protectionist appeal manifesting his CHIPS act vote as a measure to keep American industry competitive. Furthermore, he passionately defends the newly instituted insulin caps and calls for further drug price controls while also opposing single-payer healthcare to protect the industrial unions/military's recruiting incentives.

The key is authenticity; Ryan's career-long sensibilities towards his constituents' concerns might assuage fears these are merely politically expedient moves to win a campaign. Vance remains a comfortable-though-not-solid favorite. Despite now subsiding inflation did a heavy number on Democrats that we'll only see this fall. Nonetheless, Ryan might just be what the doc ordered for relieving Northern Ohio's nativist-induced amnesia towards its solidarity-forged past.

I don't know if it's true but Vance hasn't done anything for it to not be the case.

Remember Trump hasn't visited Ohio yet. We'll see where we really stand after the world's largest political college football tailgate plays his greatest hits in whatever Ohioan minor league baseball/FCS stadium fate lands on and gets all the Trumpies fired up. Ryan might garner indie votes however the more relevant question is will it matter given how super-heated conservative turnout shapes up to be? At a certain point the math just isn't there.

[wbrocks67]

As of right now, Thiel is not planning on spending any money for Vance in OH-SEN.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/31/peter-thiel-mcconnell-blake-masters/

Makes sense why McConnell was forced to dump the $28M then.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

I respect Tim Ryan for at least attempting to campaign to people who aren't just college educated liberal democratic voters onto his side. I still think, based on his voting record in Congress as well as his presidential campaign, that he is just being a fraud and will be just as liberal in the Senate. But it's a start.

Is it fraudulent of him to emphasize his appeal on materialistic grounds given that's been his bread-and-butter his whole career? Consider his long-standing Sinophobic-tinged protectionist appeal manifesting his CHIPS act vote as a measure to keep American industry competitive. Furthermore, he passionately defends the newly instituted insulin caps and calls for further drug price controls while also opposing single-payer healthcare to protect the industrial unions/military's recruiting incentives.

The key is authenticity; Ryan's career-long sensibilities towards his constituents' concerns might assuage fears these are merely politically expedient moves to win a campaign. Vance remains a comfortable-though-not-solid favorite. Despite now subsiding inflation did a heavy number on Democrats that we'll only see this fall. Nonetheless, Ryan might just be what the doc ordered for relieving Northern Ohio's nativist-induced amnesia towards its solidarity-forged past.

I don't know if it's true but Vance hasn't done anything for it to not be the case.

Remember Trump hasn't visited Ohio yet. We'll see where we really stand after the world's largest political college football tailgate plays his greatest hits in whatever Ohioan minor league baseball/FCS stadium fate lands on and gets all the Trumpies fired up. Ryan might garner indie votes however the more relevant question is will it matter given how super-heated conservative turnout shapes up to be? At a certain point the math just isn't there.

Lol… do not use the word “sinophobic” in any reply to me. I will just ignore the rest of your post even if it makes good points.

[sting in the rafters]

I respect Tim Ryan for at least attempting to campaign to people who aren't just college educated liberal democratic voters onto his side. I still think, based on his voting record in Congress as well as his presidential campaign, that he is just being a fraud and will be just as liberal in the Senate. But it's a start.

Is it fraudulent of him to emphasize his appeal on materialistic grounds given that's been his bread-and-butter his whole career? Consider his long-standing Sinophobic-tinged protectionist appeal manifesting his CHIPS act vote as a measure to keep American industry competitive. Furthermore, he passionately defends the newly instituted insulin caps and calls for further drug price controls while also opposing single-payer healthcare to protect the industrial unions/military's recruiting incentives.

The key is authenticity; Ryan's career-long sensibilities towards his constituents' concerns might assuage fears these are merely politically expedient moves to win a campaign. Vance remains a comfortable-though-not-solid favorite. Despite now subsiding inflation did a heavy number on Democrats that we'll only see this fall. Nonetheless, Ryan might just be what the doc ordered for relieving Northern Ohio's nativist-induced amnesia towards its solidarity-forged past.

I don't know if it's true but Vance hasn't done anything for it to not be the case.

Remember Trump hasn't visited Ohio yet. We'll see where we really stand after the world's largest political college football tailgate plays his greatest hits in whatever Ohioan minor league baseball/FCS stadium fate lands on and gets all the Trumpies fired up. Ryan might garner indie votes however the more relevant question is will it matter given how super-heated conservative turnout shapes up to be? At a certain point the math just isn't there.

Lol… do not use the word “sinophobic” in any reply to me. I will just ignore the rest of your post even if it makes good points.

Fair enough lmao dont get me wrong phuck the CCP just didn't have a better synonym for anti-China in my head

[If my soul was made of stone]

Say it with me: yogic flying is real. I believe in yogic flying.

https://twitter.com/stella2020woof/status/1564606453113147399?t=b4Lwcd4wK8rb8IUi...

The army of yogic flyers will chase Vance into Lake Erie, where he'll just sink instantly. Should've tried progressive muscle relaxation smh

[Leading Political Consultant Ma Anand Sheela]

Remember Trump hasn't visited Ohio yet. We'll see where we really stand after the world's largest political college football tailgate plays his greatest hits in whatever Ohioan minor league baseball/FCS stadium fate lands on and gets all the Trumpies fired up. Ryan might garner indie votes however the more relevant question is will it matter given how super-heated conservative turnout shapes up to be? At a certain point the math just isn't there.

Oh, don't get me wrong, while I'm being performatively optimistic about this and definitely see a path for Ryan I have no illusions that inertia may well carry the day here. But the best case for Vance still seems to be the McConnell zone of being an unpopular and unlikable incumbent who nevertheless keeps surviving because of the lean of his state and whatever largesse he deigns to dispense (not that Vance will do that bit, but you know what I mean).

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

If it wasn't for Ryan silly comment on Student Loans he could of locked up this race but still he can win and will be a Prez contender with Buttigieg, Harris and NEWSOM in 28 not 24

Alot of conservatives on the forum didn't like Joe Kennedy and Ryan because they could of been Prez but liked Bullock, DeSantis and NEWSOM
Sherrod Brown stands behind Warren Student Loans Discharge

[sting in the rafters]

Remember Trump hasn't visited Ohio yet. We'll see where we really stand after the world's largest political college football tailgate plays his greatest hits in whatever Ohioan minor league baseball/FCS stadium fate lands on and gets all the Trumpies fired up. Ryan might garner indie votes however the more relevant question is will it matter given how super-heated conservative turnout shapes up to be? At a certain point the math just isn't there.

Oh, don't get me wrong, while I'm being performatively optimistic about this and definitely see a path for Ryan I have no illusions that inertia may well carry the day here. But the best case for Vance still seems to be the McConnell zone of being an unpopular and unlikable incumbent who nevertheless keeps surviving because of the lean of his state and whatever largesse he deigns to dispense (not that Vance will do that bit, but you know what I mean).

In that case keep on sippin!

[wbrocks67]

I feel like we had this exact conversation going into August and Vance was supposed to start doing things. Now we're literally only two months away from the election, and Vance still doesn't seem to be doing anything. I truly think if not for this $28M cash infusion he may lose this race.

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1565453090941272065

[wbrocks67]

https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/status/1565710650378276868

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

But guys, Vance is a #populist. He's a #great fit for OH! /s

[Xing]

But guys, Vance is a #populist. He's a #great fit for OH! /s

Venture capitalists are the epitome of populism!

[AncestralDemocrat.]

I feel like we had this exact conversation going into August and Vance was supposed to start doing things. Now we're literally only two months away from the election, and Vance still doesn't seem to be doing anything. I truly think if not for this $28M cash infusion he may lose this race.

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1565453090941272065

Ryan has yet to lead one independent poll in Ohio... until then, I'm not sure why people insist on wishcasting that Vance is going to lose this race.

[wbrocks67]

I feel like we had this exact conversation going into August and Vance was supposed to start doing things. Now we're literally only two months away from the election, and Vance still doesn't seem to be doing anything. I truly think if not for this $28M cash infusion he may lose this race.

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1565453090941272065

Ryan has yet to lead one independent poll in Ohio... until then, I'm not sure why people insist on wishcasting that Vance is going to lose this race.

You act like there has been a ton of independent polling done in this race.

[Senator Incitatus]

NEW FROM OHIO: the same fake undersourced story from months ago

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

NEW FROM OHIO: the same fake undersourced story from months ago

Lol at the squirming. Vance is a garbage candidate and he will only win because it's an r wave year

[Xing]

NEW FROM OHIO: the same fake undersourced story from months ago

Lol at the squirming. Vance is a garbage candidate and he will only win because it's an r wave year

Even if it’s not a wave year, Ohio being an increasingly red state is what will save Vance.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

NEW FROM OHIO: the same fake undersourced story from months ago

Lol at the squirming. Vance is a garbage candidate and he will only win because it's an r wave year

Even if it’s not a wave year, Ohio being an increasingly red state is what will save Vance.

Lol you said the samething about KY 2019 you were wrong then and you are wrong now guess what neither candidate has been outside MOE each candidate has been 5 pts or 3 pts ahead

[Pollster]

https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/status/1565710650378276868

Unless "more than half" is just very opaque word choice here (and it very well may be), this is actually not a great sign. Ryan likely needs to be winning ~70% (if not more) of these voters to hit his win number statewide.

Caveat of course that we don't know the size of the focus group and that qualitative findings should never be extrapolated to the electorate at-large without confirming with quant.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Xing and Darrkpi saying we can't win in OH and NC and FL if we win53 seats WI, PA, OH, NC and regardless of what happens in GA and LA that's 53 seats and we can win the H in 22/24 we  get DC statehood Rs can't win back Sen in 24 that's why it's important for Ryan to win he is our 533rd seat


It's not enshrined in the Constitution it's a 303 map it's a 538map

That's why AOC endorsed Ryan in case D's lose the H we can win back the Trifecta I 24 and have a Filibuster proof Sen Rick Scott is the most vulnerable R Senator in 24 it's very likely Gwen Graham runs against him since she didn't get picked for Lt Gov in FLORIDA