Virginia Mega Thread: The Youngkin Administration

[Statilius the Epicurean]

ROTFL Youngkin did not run an even remotely moderate campaign

As I said earlier in the thread, you can talk about dogwhistling on CRT but Youngkin coupled it with running on increasing teacher pay and passing the largest education budget in the state's history.

[Storr]

Larry Sabato is on TV basically blaming Manchin/Sinema for the outcome, arguing that if the BBB bills had passed, T-Mac would have had something to run on and "sell" but was left with nothing. Seems like a reasonable analysis.

I can imagine that analysis being accurate. Democrats not accomplishing anything on Biden's agenda that requires Congressional approval doesn't exactly encourage turnout among party members. Biden's term so far has felt like a listless ship lost on the ocean.

[PSOL]

Let’s just make this clear

1) absolutely no one but GOP partisans care about CRT
2) The white suburbs were never really loyal to the Democratic Party
3) The Democratic party has told young people and progressives to shut up and aren’t in the mood to have them in office and take credit for their ideas, thus leading to poor governance
4) No one but GOP partisans care about Covid “tyranny”
5) Tmac ran a dog•••• campaign and has an awful personality
6) even still, he was chosen by Democratic primary voters over anyone else who would have won
7) The Biden Administration’s complete lack of care for raising people’s living standards in the midst of the greatest societal upheaval since the 1930s was universally unpopular and made people feel cheated
The Clinton Crime Family are not liked by the average American voter

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

We can still win in 2024/ MI, WI and PA plus AZ or GA will give D 270 this isn't the end of the Biden Prez this is the end of a Landslide Election, donations to Wave insurance candidates will be foolish after these of results.
Kaine is still favored in 2024 unless he gets a strong challenge

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Dems need to give up on wokeness, get stricter on Manchin/Sinema so that we can actually get legislative accomplishments, and improve their messaging. It still baffles me how Dem politicians are so out of touch that they’re still under the impression that saying the vastly unpopular term “Latinx” is beneficial for them electorally. They should have caught onto this a year ago. They fact that they’re still saying it shows how out of touch they are

Look, I know that I'm out of touch and live under a rock, but I do think Democrats should avoid woke language (Matt Y. & David Shor's popularism, etc.) That said, I also think we have. I just can't think of an example of someone who won a Dem primary recently being exceedingly woke in their messaging. Last I checked we aren't choosing Elizabeth Warren and Maya Wiley to lead us into general elections. Where is this happening? Who is doing it? I just don't know how we're supposed to *stop* doing it if our leaders aren't doing it in the first place. I'm asking this as a genuine practical question. If wokeness emanates from "the cultural left, in aggregate"--rather than Democratic top brass--how is it supposed to be eliminated on the campaign trail?

[Utah Neolib]

Guys the Republican shift was generic across demographics. CRT wasn't the only thing that happened in the election. Youngkin ran a sunny, moderate campaign and Biden is unpopular. That's it.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1455693099062153217?s=20

ROTFL Youngkin did not run an even remotely moderate campaign

Still more moderate than most R congressional campaigns and Youngkin didn’t mention or want Trump really.

[Vespucci]

I'm afraid to say this country's demise is occurring sooner than I thought.

if the embodiment of "generic R" beating a guy running a really bad campaign while the president's approval ratings are 8 points underwater is a sign of the country's demise it was already doomed

[CookieDamage]

Let’s just make this clear

1) absolutely no one but GOP partisans care about CRT
2) The white suburbs were never really loyal to the Democratic Party
3) The Democratic party has told young people and progressives to shut up and aren’t in the mood to have them in office and take credit for their ideas, thus leading to poor governance
4) No one but GOP partisans care about Covid “tyranny”
5) Tmac ran a dog•••• campaign and has an awful personality
6) even still, he was chosen by Democratic primary voters over anyone else who would have won
7) The Biden Administration’s complete lack of care for raising people’s living standards in the midst of the greatest societal upheaval since the 1930s was universally unpopular and made people feel cheated
The Clinton Crime Family are not liked by the average American voter

You went from being a respectable leftist on this site to a bit of a crazy.

[NOVA Green]

I would be curious to see if Glenn's victory is thanks to Asian Americans. As a Asian American myself, especially a Vietnamese American, I am one of the few democrat Asian Americans that I know of.

In the more working class Asian communities, it's actually cultural conservativism. Obedience, respect your parents, working hard. Perhaps Glenn played into that.

Unfortunately I don't believe we will be able to pour over the precinct results once they are finalized, since all of the EVs go into a giant bucket and not reallocated back.

Although I am a big supporter of VbM (Oregon was the first state to do this 100%) when this started getting more common esp after COVID, make really makes it difficult to get into the precinct level data to draw logical conclusions when mapping precinct data with Census data.   

[Vespucci]

Let’s just make this clear

1) absolutely no one but GOP partisans care about CRT
2) The white suburbs were never really loyal to the Democratic Party
3) The Democratic party has told young people and progressives to shut up and aren’t in the mood to have them in office and take credit for their ideas, thus leading to poor governance
4) No one but GOP partisans care about Covid “tyranny”
5) Tmac ran a dog•••• campaign and has an awful personality
6) even still, he was chosen by Democratic primary voters over anyone else who would have won
7) The Biden Administration’s complete lack of care for raising people’s living standards in the midst of the greatest societal upheaval since the 1930s was universally unpopular and made people feel cheated
The Clinton Crime Family are not liked by the average American voter

Hillary Clinton is 0.0% responsible for losing this election

[OSR stands with Israel]

Dems need to give up on wokeness, get stricter on Manchin/Sinema so that we can actually get legislative accomplishments, and improve their messaging. It still baffles me how Dem politicians are so out of touch that they’re still under the impression that saying the vastly unpopular term “Latinx” is beneficial for them electorally. They should have caught onto this a year ago. They fact that they’re still saying it shows how out of touch they are

Look, I know that I'm out of touch and live under a rock, but I do think Democrats should avoid woke language (Matt Y. & David Shor's popularism, etc., etc.), but I also think we have? I just can't think of an example of someone who won a Dem primary recently being exceedingly woke in messaging. Last I checked we aren't choosing Elizabeth Warren and Maya Wiley to lead us into general elections. Where is this happening? Who is doing it? I just don't know how we're supposed to *stop* doing it if our leaders aren't doing it in the first place. I'm asking this as a genuine practical question. If wokeness emanates from "the cultural left, in aggregate"--rather than Democratic top brass--how is it supposed to be eliminated on the campaign trail?

The issue is the cultural left is what the backlash is against, especially against the fact that nearly every institution has seemingly embraced them .

[BG-NY]

PSOL is a top 10 poster on this blog, and is correct here.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I would be curious to see if Glenn's victory is thanks to Asian Americans. As a Asian American myself, especially a Vietnamese American, I am one of the few democrat Asian Americans that I know of.

In the more working class Asian communities, it's actually cultural conservativism. Obedience, respect your parents, working hard. Perhaps Glenn played into that.

It's interesting: most of the Republican Indian-Americans that I've encountered come from upper-class suburban families (I'm an example of one).  By contrast, the working-class Indian-Americans I know skew heavily Democratic.  

2020 may have changed that cause while this is anecdotel the working class family members I have were much more likely to vote Trump than the more upper middle class types even though they used to be much more solidly democratic

Nope, this was largely the case in 2020 (at least in my own social experiences) -- though I understand that this runs counter-intuitive to wholesale 2020 trends.  

As a whole, though, we're still a relatively Democratic-voting group.  I've always found this interesting considering the stereotype of cultural conservatism that surrounds us.  Hell, I still can't wear leggings-as-pants around my grandma haha. 

I think the Indian vote probably will vote similarly to the Jewish vote in many elections to come . Trump got similar support among both groups I think

[LabourJersey]

In retrospect I think the fact that Virginia Republicans had a quick convention and not a drawn-out primary was tremendously helpful for them.

Youngkin may not have won a primary. If he had, it would have been longer than the campaign before the convention, and almost certainly would have forced him to take more pro-Trump positions. That would go for whoever would have won.

[Big Abraham]

PSOL is a top 10 poster on this blog, and is correct here.

Agreed, but dawg i thought you were supposed to be socialist what happened to your avatar

[Utah Neolib]

This makes it likely McAuliffe will be Biden’s second term secretary of commerce

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

Democrats should just pass a "No Critical Race Theory in Public Schools Act" and spend a few million highlighting it in white suburban battleground districts honestly. It wouldn't actually do anything policy-wise, takes the issue off the table politically, and is not something the Democratic base cares about en masse.

Wut

[Jeffster]

I'm asking this as a genuine practical question. If wokeness emanates from "the cultural left, in aggregate"--rather than Democratic top brass--how is it supposed to be eliminated on the campaign trail?

A Sistah Souljah moment comes to mind here. But the Dems in power don't have the guts to do it.

[PSOL]

Let’s just make this clear

1) absolutely no one but GOP partisans care about CRT
2) The white suburbs were never really loyal to the Democratic Party
3) The Democratic party has told young people and progressives to shut up and aren’t in the mood to have them in office and take credit for their ideas, thus leading to poor governance
4) No one but GOP partisans care about Covid “tyranny”
5) Tmac ran a dog•••• campaign and has an awful personality
6) even still, he was chosen by Democratic primary voters over anyone else who would have won
7) The Biden Administration’s complete lack of care for raising people’s living standards in the midst of the greatest societal upheaval since the 1930s was universally unpopular and made people feel cheated
The Clinton Crime Family are not liked by the average American voter

You went from being a respectable leftist on this site to a bit of a crazy.

I’d like to know specific objections to this

PSOL is a top 10 poster on this blog, and is correct here.

Agreed, but dawg i thought you were supposed to be socialist what happened to your avatar

thr33 is an eclectic third positionist trending left

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

I would be curious to see if Glenn's victory is thanks to Asian Americans. As a Asian American myself, especially a Vietnamese American, I am one of the few democrat Asian Americans that I know of.

In the more working class Asian communities, it's actually cultural conservativism. Obedience, respect your parents, working hard. Perhaps Glenn played into that.

It's interesting: most of the Republican Indian-Americans that I've encountered come from upper-class suburban families (I'm an example of one).  By contrast, the working-class Indian-Americans I know skew heavily Democratic.  

2020 may have changed that cause while this is anecdotel the working class family members I have were much more likely to vote Trump than the more upper middle class types even though they used to be much more solidly democratic

Nope, this was largely the case in 2020 (at least in my own social experiences) -- though I understand that this runs counter-intuitive to wholesale 2020 trends.  

As a whole, though, we're still a relatively Democratic-voting group.  I've always found this interesting considering the stereotype of cultural conservatism that surrounds us.  Hell, I still can't wear leggings-as-pants around my grandma haha. 

I think the Indian vote probably will vote similarly to the Jewish vote in many elections to come . Trump got similar support among both groups I think

It'll be interesting to see moving forward.  

(As for the "leggings-as-pants" demographic? Pure toss-up!)

[BG-NY]

PSOL is a top 10 poster on this blog, and is correct here.

Agreed, but dawg i thought you were supposed to be socialist what happened to your avatar

I am fine with any avatar color and have cycled through all of them. Except libertarian. That is unforgivable.

[Big Abraham]

PSOL is a top 10 poster on this blog, and is correct here.

Agreed, but dawg i thought you were supposed to be socialist what happened to your avatar

I am fine with any avatar color and have cycled through all of them. Except libertarian. That is unforgivable.

Based

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

I still think this will mean nothing for 2024 if Trump is still on the ticket, suburbans will still not want to vote for him.

[TodayJunior]

I still think this will mean nothing for 2024 if Trump is still on the ticket, suburbans will still not want to vote for him.

This is very very correct!!

[BG-NY]

I still think this will mean nothing for 2024 if Trump is still on the ticket, suburbans will still not want to vote for him.

Might not matter:
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1455701491822563328