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« Reply #18600 on: January 25, 2023, 07:10:38 PM »
Quote from: SirWoodbury on January 25, 2023, 05:56:27 PM
Quote from: Dereich on January 25, 2023, 05:28:26 PM

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RU has been escalating it's mini-offensives during these last few days in different parts of the front, most likely prepping up for spring. In under 24 hours they launched another "surprise" attack. This time towards Vuhledar, reaching it's outskirts for the first time.

So what is it going to be? Zaporozhye, Kharkiv, or Lviv/Kyiv through Belarus?
IDK. Doesn't matter. Not a matter of if, but when.  

After Putin signed the mobilization order, it was over for Ukraine. It's only gonna get uglier from here on out on the battlefield map.
They still haven’t even taken Bakmut after 6 months of fighting but it’s over for Ukraine? Honestly this pro-Russia narrative you keep pushing is even more embarrassing with the added context that you were saying this stuff last summer before the Kharkiv and Kherson offensives
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« Reply #18601 on: January 25, 2023, 07:27:27 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2023, 07:31:24 PM by Middle-aged Europe »
Putin signed the mobilization order more than four months ago and it was completed a month later.

At worst it created a stale-mate that is balanced on the other side by continued Western military support, which soon could include 100 main battle tanks.

The bad thing about this war is not that it is "over" for Ukraine, the bad thing is that the conflict may last another three years.
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« Reply #18602 on: January 25, 2023, 09:01:52 PM »
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« Reply #18603 on: January 25, 2023, 09:20:58 PM »
Additional aid arriving soon (Or recently deployed), or potentially "on the table"....

Anyways... needless to say floodgates have started to open with likely much more on the way in the near future...

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Norway & Poland:



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« Reply #18604 on: January 25, 2023, 09:24:17 PM »
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« Reply #18605 on: January 25, 2023, 09:27:19 PM »
Israel declined a US weapons transfer request to Ukraine for anti-aircraft missiles:
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« Reply #18606 on: January 25, 2023, 09:28:51 PM »
Leopard 2 tank convoy spotted in Finland for "Exercises"
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« Reply #18607 on: January 25, 2023, 09:49:01 PM »
Here is a nice visualization from my buddy Mr. Sutton on the tank situation from a few hours earlier...
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« Reply #18608 on: January 26, 2023, 03:24:01 AM »

In Germany there wasn't a single blackout (electricity, gas, heating, or otherwise) and some low-intensity protests against inflation in the eastern regions of the country have by now fizzled out. Pretty anti-climatic compared to what was predicted by some.
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« Reply #18609 on: January 26, 2023, 03:50:44 AM »
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In Germany there wasn't a single blackout (electricity, gas, heating, or otherwise) and some low-intensity protests against inflation in the eastern regions of the country have by now fizzled out. Pretty anti-climatic compared to what was predicted by some.

Yep. It looks like natural gas storage beat even the optimistic projection:
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« Reply #18610 on: January 26, 2023, 06:38:05 AM »
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/tanks-ukraine-war-vladimir-putin-germany-us-britain-volodymyr-zelensky-latest-news-b1055691.html

"‘We need jets and missiles to beat Russia,’ says Zelensky in fresh plea"

Now that tanks are on the way to Ukraine, net on the list are F-16s
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« Reply #18611 on: January 26, 2023, 06:41:34 AM »
Putin's name is now appearing in anti-government protesters in Peru.  The sign says "Putin, help. They are killing us for defending our fatherland."
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« Reply #18612 on: January 26, 2023, 07:09:34 AM »
Quote from: jaichind on January 26, 2023, 06:41:34 AM
Putin's name is now appearing in anti-government protesters in Peru.  The sign says "Putin, help. They are killing us for defending our fatherland."



Prediction: He'll let them down.
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« Reply #18613 on: January 26, 2023, 07:14:15 AM »
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64391272

What could possibly go wrong with a Russian invasion on June 22 by German tanks?

Stalingrad, here we come.
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« Reply #18614 on: January 26, 2023, 07:24:44 AM »
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/tanks-ukraine-war-vladimir-putin-germany-us-britain-volodymyr-zelensky-latest-news-b1055691.html

"‘We need jets and missiles to beat Russia,’ says Zelensky in fresh plea"

Now that tanks are on the way to Ukraine, net on the list are F-16s

Should be next on the lists……，
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« Reply #18615 on: January 26, 2023, 07:25:39 AM »
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Quote from: jaichind on January 26, 2023, 06:38:05 AM
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/tanks-ukraine-war-vladimir-putin-germany-us-britain-volodymyr-zelensky-latest-news-b1055691.html

"‘We need jets and missiles to beat Russia,’ says Zelensky in fresh plea"

Now that tanks are on the way to Ukraine, net on the list are F-16s

Should be next on the lists……，

Thanks for fixing my typo
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« Reply #18616 on: January 26, 2023, 08:21:49 AM »
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« Reply #18617 on: January 26, 2023, 08:29:22 AM »
Quote from: Modok on January 25, 2023, 07:09:38 PM
Quote from: SirWoodbury on January 25, 2023, 05:56:27 PM
Quote from: Dereich on January 25, 2023, 05:28:26 PM

Quote from: SirWoodbury on January 25, 2023, 05:09:11 PM
RU has been escalating it's mini-offensives during these last few days in different parts of the front, most likely prepping up for spring. In under 24 hours they launched another "surprise" attack. This time towards Vuhledar, reaching it's outskirts for the first time.

So what is it going to be? Zaporozhye, Kharkiv, or Lviv/Kyiv through Belarus?
IDK. Doesn't matter. Not a matter of if, but when.  


After Putin signed the mobilization order, it was over for Ukraine. It's only gonna get uglier from here on out on the battlefield map.

If you ignore the piss poor quality of Russian soldiers, I guess.
It's easy to say this when we sit behind the computer. But if you were to ask those Ukrainian soldiers out on the field, who see their compatriots/friends get killed weekly, about what is what, then it doesn't become a joke anymore.
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« Reply #18618 on: January 26, 2023, 09:22:28 AM »
Quote from: SirWoodbury on January 26, 2023, 08:29:22 AM
Quote from: Modok on January 25, 2023, 07:09:38 PM
Quote from: SirWoodbury on January 25, 2023, 05:56:27 PM
Quote from: Dereich on January 25, 2023, 05:28:26 PM

Quote from: SirWoodbury on January 25, 2023, 05:09:11 PM
RU has been escalating it's mini-offensives during these last few days in different parts of the front, most likely prepping up for spring. In under 24 hours they launched another "surprise" attack. This time towards Vuhledar, reaching it's outskirts for the first time.

So what is it going to be? Zaporozhye, Kharkiv, or Lviv/Kyiv through Belarus?
IDK. Doesn't matter. Not a matter of if, but when.  


After Putin signed the mobilization order, it was over for Ukraine. It's only gonna get uglier from here on out on the battlefield map.

If you ignore the piss poor quality of Russian soldiers, I guess.
It's easy to say this when we sit behind the computer. But if you were to ask those Ukrainian soldiers out on the field, who see their compatriots/friends get killed weekly, about what is what, then it doesn't become a joke anymore.
Your continued insistence to portray the Russian army as some type of mighty force in defiance of all existing evidence is really something
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« Reply #18619 on: January 26, 2023, 09:59:56 AM »
But human waves win wars, don't you know?
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« Reply #18620 on: January 26, 2023, 10:29:25 AM »
Quote from: CumbrianLefty on January 26, 2023, 09:59:56 AM
But human waves win wars, don't you know?

Russia has literally never tried any other strategy since the Napoleonic Wars. *shrug*
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« Reply #18621 on: January 26, 2023, 11:02:45 AM »
Quote from: CumbrianLefty on January 26, 2023, 09:59:56 AM
But human waves win wars, don't you know?

If Russia is using human waves then why are the casualties at Bakhhmut of approximate parity ?
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« Reply #18622 on: January 26, 2023, 11:05:10 AM »
Quote from: jaichind on January 26, 2023, 06:38:05 AM
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/tanks-ukraine-war-vladimir-putin-germany-us-britain-volodymyr-zelensky-latest-news-b1055691.html

"‘We need jets and missiles to beat Russia,’ says Zelensky in fresh plea"

Now that tanks are on the way to Ukraine, net on the list are F-16s

Planes are  a tougher get than tanks. The main geopolitical worry the US should have now is Taiwan.  In such a war it would be decided in the sky and sea so tanks would not be as important.  However f 16s will be important . Even wargames which show American victory show a massive loss of fighter jets .
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« Reply #18623 on: January 26, 2023, 11:33:21 AM »
Quote from: CumbrianLefty on January 26, 2023, 09:59:56 AM
But human waves win wars, don't you know?
Indeed:
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« Reply #18624 on: January 26, 2023, 12:04:11 PM »
Quote from: lfromnj on January 26, 2023, 11:02:45 AM
Quote from: CumbrianLefty on January 26, 2023, 09:59:56 AM
But human waves win wars, don't you know?

If Russia is using human waves then why are the casualties at Bakhhmut of approximate parity ?
Because we don’t know if that’s true or not. Ukraine keeps their causality rates on the wraps pretty effectively
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