🇬🇷 Greek politics and elections

[Mike88]

With the votes counted, the seat projection:

145 ND
  71 Syriza
  44 PASOK
  24 KKE
  16 EL

[Harlow]

What is NIKH? They have close to the 3% threshold but I can't find any information about them.

[Logical]

While the lead will narrow as more of Athens get reported it is a clear of rejection of Tsipras. He has to go.

[Mike88]

What is NIKH? They have close to the 3% threshold but I can't find any information about them.

Democratic Patriotic Movement - NIKH. I assume it's a right wing party.

[Mike88]

While the lead will narrow as more of Athens get reported it is a clear of rejection of Tsipras. He has to go.

The problem for Syriza is that the repeat election will be in a month and a half. They are basically stuck with him until then.

[Beagle]

What is NIKH? They have close to the 3% threshold but I can't find any information about them.

Democratic Patriotic Movement - NIKH. I assume it's a right wing party.

It's a loud-and-proud Putinist party

[Mike88]

I believe this is the final projection, just released, by the Electoral Commission:

41.0% ND, 146 seats
20.0% Syriza, 71
11.7% PASOK, 42
  7.2% KKE, 25
  4.5% EL, 16
  2.9% NIKH
  2.8% PE
  2.5% MeRA25
  7.4% Others

But, I'm not sure. I not fluent in Greek, to say the least.

[crals]

Is a ND-EL coalition possible? Although there is very little incentive for ND to form a coalition when they can get a majority of their own in July.

[Harlow]

Is a ND-EL coalition possible? Although there is very little incentive for ND to form a coalition when they can get a majority of their own in July.

I think you just answered your own question.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Is a ND-EL coalition possible? Although there is very little incentive for ND to form a coalition when they can get a majority of their own in July.

Not a chance. Mitsotakis won't touch with a ten foot pole a far-right, ultra-religious, pro-Russia party.

[Mike88]

Is a ND-EL coalition possible? Although there is very little incentive for ND to form a coalition when they can get a majority of their own in July.

I think you just answered your own question.

Yeah, after this massive result, I would guess that both ND and PASOK would want an election repeat. PASOK can even see themselves surpassing Syriza after these results.

[Niemeyerite]

LoL did ND really get more votes than 2xSYRIZA? Amazing. Alexis has to go.

[Mike88]

Syriza is only leading in Rodopi. The rest is a sea of blue:

https://twitter.com/GreeceElects/status/1660349624790425602

[Mike88]

It seems that ND is floating the idea to do a repeat election on 25 June. In just over a month. We'll see.

[Battista Minola 1616]

What a terrible result for Syriza, which may lose every single district to ND. Also not a great day for Greek opinion polls.

Is Rodopi the only possible exception because it's where the remaining Muslim Turks live?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Is Rodopi the only possible exception because it's where the remaining Muslim Turks live?

Yes. These people are heavily influenced by the local Turkish consulate and it's obvious that the Erdogan regime preferred Tsipras who was more conciliatory towards them.

[Mike88]

What a terrible result for Syriza, which may lose every single district to ND. Also not a great day for Greek opinion polls.

Is Rodopi the only possible exception because it's where the remaining Muslim Turks live?

To be fair to polling companies, there were a lot of undecideds during the last days of the campaign. I would say that Tsipras "ridiculous" remarks in the last few days may had been the nail in the coffin, and that may have swayed tons of voters to scrap Syriza.

[oldtimer]

I didn't post all this time because I was due to be on the count, I wanted to be impartial as one should be.

What happened in the last 2 weeks that changed the results so much , even though the implosion of the opposition was starting to become apparent?

I'll tell you now that the count has finished:

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1. The Party debates where appalling as expected.
Velopoulos made a fool of himself about some hagiographs of the Mother Mary been Japanese anime on school books.
Varoufakis also regurgitated his Plan Dimitra of Bank Closures and paying people with crypto.

2. The hated ex-Labour minister of SYRIZA, Mr.Katrougalos made a statement on live TV, 5 times that SYRIZA will DOUBLE National Insurance contributions for all making LESS than 100k a year to about 20% of income.

The uproar was so great Tsipras was forced to kick him out days before the election.

3.Another ex-Minister of SYRIZA said on live TV that they planned to increase taxes on all making 5k a year.

4. Mitsotakis promised a 15% Flat Tax, and furter increases in the minimum wage. His program is heavy with Tax Cuts and Spending Rises.


So now there is talk that Mitsotakis will change the Constitution after the 2nd elections to further strenghen his rule, now that the public have voted in his favour.

Tsipras might be forced to resign this time, he might lose 2nd place in a 2nd election.

Varoufakis will get what he deserves and dissapear, Konstantopoulou will probably replace him in the 2nd elections

That "Victory" NIKH party might also enter parliament in the 2nd elections.

And the 2nd elections are will now probably be on the 25th of June.

[oldtimer]

Syriza is only leading in Rodopi. The rest is a sea of blue:

https://twitter.com/GreeceElects/status/1660349624790425602

Gypsies and Turks.

There was a SYRIZA MP who was caught yesterday trying to buy votes in Gypsy camps.

[oldtimer]

What a terrible result for Syriza, which may lose every single district to ND. Also not a great day for Greek opinion polls.

Is Rodopi the only possible exception because it's where the remaining Muslim Turks live?

To be fair to polling companies, there were a lot of undecideds during the last days of the campaign. I would say that Tsipras "ridiculous" remarks in the last few days may had been the nail in the coffin, and that may have swayed tons of voters to scrap Syriza.

Self Employed make about 30% of Greek workers.

When you say publicly on TV days before an election that you plan to double their taxes you are going to tank.

The majority of the population lives on subsidence levels with poor public services and high taxes, any tax increase is believed to go into the coffers of the Politicians instead towards public services.

Tsipras tanked on the poorest places.

[oldtimer]

Also there was complete indifference by the public.

I returned from the count to see that everyone in the neighbourhood was watching the European Basketball Final match, no one cared about the elections, something very odd for Greece.

I was probably the only one in the whole neighbourhood who cared.

[Mike88]

Turnout at 60.02%, with 83.07% counted. Higher than expected.

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

What is NIKH? They have close to the 3% threshold but I can't find any information about them.

Democratic Patriotic Movement - NIKH. I assume it's a right wing party.

It's a loud-and-proud Putinist party

Here's the platform of one lf its candidates, it's mostly a bunch of right wing culture warrior grievance issues, which basically goes: would you trust those atheists, tr*nnies, homos, homewreckers and national traitors?

https://hellas.postsen.com/local/322774/Article-by-Konstantinos-Baliakas-candidate-for-parliament-in-the-PE-Kozanis-with-the-Democratic-Patriotic-Movement-NIKI-in-relation-to-the-basic-principles-of-the-party--Daily-update-for.html

Their official platform is largely the same, complaining about spiritual, biological and territorial (ie national) self destruction https://nikh.gr/i-niki

[oldtimer]

Turnout at 60.02%, with 83.07% counted. Higher than expected.

About the same as last time.

Tsipras just said that there is no time to change before the next elections.
His refusal to resign might doom SYRIZA to 3rd.

[Mike88]

Turnout at 60.02%, with 83.07% counted. Higher than expected.

About the same as last time.

Tsipras just said that there is no time to change before the next elections.
His refusal to resign might doom SYRIZA to 3rd.

Greece back to basis.