🇬🇷 Greek politics and elections

[jaichind]

Spartans seem to be doing well in the polls recently and there is a chance that they might surge past 3% on election day.

[CumbrianLefty]

Spartans seem to be doing well in the polls recently and there is a chance that they might surge past 3% on election day.

Sorry, but LOL

[jaichind]

Spartans seem to be doing well in the polls recently and there is a chance that they might surge past 3% on election day.

Sorry, but LOL

The last 3 polls have them at 2.7 2.7 and 2.5 which is a rise from 1.5-2 levels a week ago.  They have the momentum

[CumbrianLefty]

Yes yes, but "surge"?

[MRCVzla]

Spartans seem to be doing well in the polls recently and there is a chance that they might surge past 3% on election day.

Probably, but also can cost Niki/Victory enter to parliament, some polls are showing them almost below 3%, Spartans is having some momentum but will see if they pass the 3%.

The other non-parliamentary party to watch is Plefsi Eleftherias/Course of Freedom, is polling around 3-4% so they can probably enter, but in the last days they are involved in some internal turnoil as leader and former Speaker Zoe Konstantopoulou did some "clean house" in their lists deplacing some candidates who in the May election where in eligible posts (thanks to their open-list/preference votes) in order to prefer some candidates of her confidence like her own partner and party co-founder or her "personal trainer", the "cut off" candidates quickly resigned from the party and are doing PR interviews calling out Konstantopoulou' "authoritarian" rule in the party and she used them like "rabbits" to raise the party's performance due to their conections with local communities. Niki/Victory also moved some candidate who was in eligible post in May like their top-ranked candidate in Larissa but not experimented the same controversy like in "Plefsi".

In this Sunday' election with the ND electoral law, apart of the "enhanced" proportional system, the ballots are with closed lists instead of putting a preference like in the May election with the Syriza' pure proportional law.

[#UnbanTender]

It's not a Greek election without a few parties hilariously missing the 3% threshold.

[🥥🌴]

It's not a Greek election without a few parties hilariously missing the 3% threshold.

it's not a Greek election without Spartan revival being a thing

[Mike88]

The campaign is now over.

Last campaign events/rallies of the major parties:

ND - New Democracy

Syriza

PASOK:

KKE:

[Jumped off the American Sinking Ship]

Where are Spartans even getting their main support from? I'd have assumed NIKI or EL, but they haven't lost any ground really.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Where are Spartans even getting their main support from? I'd have assumed NIKI or EL, but they haven't lost any ground really.

They could be taking some support from SYRIZA too. Plefsi also takes a lot of former Golden Dawn voters. These people don't have any strong ideological leanings, they just want to watch the world burn.

[oldtimer]

Where are Spartans even getting their main support from? I'd have assumed NIKI or EL, but they haven't lost any ground really.

Nazis who abstained last time.

[oldtimer]

Since the winner is pretermined here is the first greek exit poll leak, the greek exit poll leaks are usually reliable about the greek exit poll, but greek exit polls are not reliable so beware.

Mitsotakis 42%
Tsipras 18%
PASOK 11.5%
Communists 8%
Bucket of small parties 2.5-3.5%

[oldtimer]

Well there is nothing much going on, so to fill time until 7pm local time here is a collection of ads from the 1993 election:

Generic commercial about Mitsotakis Snr:

Translation:

Spoiler alert! Click Show to show the content.

Show

Ahhhh Mitsotaki
In tin foil.

Inedible, ehhhh.

Mitsotakis, a whole foods PM.
Now in an economy package of 5 cods

In tin foil, ehhhh.

Positive ads:

Negative ads:

Remember why you got rid of Papandreou.

Mitsotakis is a virus that damages your health.

The ads didn't change a single vote because they just reflected a preexisting opinion of well known records.

The most catastrophic advertising campaign and the only one that changed an election outcome that I've ever seen in a greek election was by LAE in 2015.

[インターネット掲示板ユーザー Punxsutawney Phil]

The most catastrophic advertising campaign and the only one that changed an election outcome that I've ever seen in a greek election was by LAE in 2015.

What was special about that one?

[🥥🌴]

Since the winner is pretermined here is the first greek exit poll leak, the greek exit poll leaks are usually reliable about the greek exit poll, but greek exit polls are not reliable so beware.

Mitsotakis 42%
Tsipras 18%
PASOK 11.5%
Communists 8%
Bucket of small parties 2.5-3.5%

whats the point of this election, i mean it looks like exactly the same as a month ago.

[oldtimer]

And here are those LAE ads from 2015, the only ones that changed votes, keep in mind this was their main advertising drive:

Konstantopoulou threatens a poor guy to agree with her.

That's after the press published that she physically assaulted a man at a gas station to change her tire, "UberKaren" style.

Lafazanis takes a cab to the Mint.

That's after the pro-europeans accused him of a trip to the Mint.

No wonder they started from high teens and ended up bellow 3%.

I read that their main ads guy was a lefty director who wanted to make art or trolling or something stereotypical of comically mentally unstable art guy with a beret.

[Mike88]

Since the winner is pretermined here is the first greek exit poll leak, the greek exit poll leaks are usually reliable about the greek exit poll, but greek exit polls are not reliable so beware.

Mitsotakis 42%
Tsipras 18%
PASOK 11.5%
Communists 8%
Bucket of small parties 2.5-3.5%

whats the point of this election, i mean it looks like exactly the same as a month ago.

In May, the electoral system was proportional with no seat bonus. Even so, with that system, ND almost won a majority. In today's election, there is a new electoral system with a seat bonus that is expected to give ND a comfortable majority.

[oldtimer]

The most catastrophic advertising campaign and the only one that changed an election outcome that I've ever seen in a greek election was by LAE in 2015.

What was special about that one?

They didn't had a well known public record, a black slate mostly.

So their terrible catastrophic ads just gave the impression that they had no program or ideas, that they were just a bunch of loonies.

I posted them just for you to have a look.

[インターネット掲示板ユーザー Punxsutawney Phil]

The most catastrophic advertising campaign and the only one that changed an election outcome that I've ever seen in a greek election was by LAE in 2015.

What was special about that one?

They didn't had a well known public record, a black slate mostly.

So their terrible catastrophic ads just gave the impression that they had no program or ideas, that they were just a bunch of loonies.

I posted them just for you to have a look.

Ah. Thanks.

[oldtimer]

The most catastrophic advertising campaign and the only one that changed an election outcome that I've ever seen in a greek election was by LAE in 2015.

What was special about that one?

They didn't had a well known public record, a black slate mostly.

So their terrible catastrophic ads just gave the impression that they had no program or ideas, that they were just a bunch of loonies.

I posted them just for you to have a look.

Ah. Thanks.

Like who makes a genuine ad where they threaten the voter/customer to vote/buy or else ?

Not even mobsters would do TV ads like that.

And no political program, no proposals, nothing.
Just comedicly abstract art performance.

The equivalent of having Biden just eat ice cream on TV saying nothing while brandishing a gun at you.

[Mike88]

Turnout at 10:30, around 5 hours ago, was at 11.29%.

At 13:30, 29.13% of voters had cast a ballot, 2.39% less than at the same time in the May election.

[インターネット掲示板ユーザー Punxsutawney Phil]

The most catastrophic advertising campaign and the only one that changed an election outcome that I've ever seen in a greek election was by LAE in 2015.

What was special about that one?

They didn't had a well known public record, a black slate mostly.

So their terrible catastrophic ads just gave the impression that they had no program or ideas, that they were just a bunch of loonies.

I posted them just for you to have a look.

Ah. Thanks.

Like who makes a genuine ad where they threaten the voter/customer to vote/buy or else?

Not even mobsters would do TV ads like that.

And no political program, no proposals, nothing.
Just comedicly abstract art performance.

The equivalent of having Biden just eat ice cream on TV saying nothing while brandishing a gun at you.

The clouds at Mount Olympus part and unify with each other in order to keep Zoe Konstantopoulou out of parliament.

[oldtimer]

Turnout at 10:30, around 5 hours ago, was at 11.29%.

At 13:30, 29.13% of voters had cast a ballot, 2.39% less than at the same time in the May election.

The weather so far is summery, but there are severe thunderstorms popping up in the countryside.

And the election winner has been known since the last election, turnout should be low.

[oldtimer]

Update on exit poll leaks.

Mitsotakis 42.5%
Tsipras 17.5%
Pasok 11.5%
Communists 8%
Bucket of small parties 2.5-4%

[Landslide Lyndon]

Turnout at 10:30, around 5 hours ago, was at 11.29%.

At 13:30, 29.13% of voters had cast a ballot, 2.39% less than at the same time in the May election.

If the participation rate is only 2-3% lower than May then I will be very pleased.
We are deep into the summer season and there is zero suspense about the winner.