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« Reply #175 on: May 21, 2023, 09:44:28 AM »

Turnout update: Until 5pm, 48.8% of voters had already cast a ballot.

Looks like the pre crisis period of 70%+ turnout are long gone.  I guess the crisis plus economic contraction turned off a bunch of voters from the process. 

Maybe the final turnout will be similar with the 2019 one, we'll see. I believe that in the past, voting was mandatory but there were no real penalties for not voting. Nowadays, I believe that was revoked and, of course, the last decade events have taken a tool in the electorate's view of the political system and class.

Let's not forget that the number of registered voters is grossly inflated. There are people who have died five and ten years ago but their names still haven't been purged from the voter rolls.
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« Reply #176 on: May 21, 2023, 09:48:00 AM »

Turnout update: Until 5pm, 48.8% of voters had already cast a ballot.

Looks like the pre crisis period of 70%+ turnout are long gone.  I guess the crisis plus economic contraction turned off a bunch of voters from the process. 

Maybe the final turnout will be similar with the 2019 one, we'll see. I believe that in the past, voting was mandatory but there were no real penalties for not voting. Nowadays, I believe that was revoked and, of course, the last decade events have taken a tool in the electorate's view of the political system and class.

Let's not forget that the number of registered voters is grossly inflated. There are people who have died five and ten years ago but their names still haven't been purged from the voter rolls.

Indeed, but the numbers of voters turning out to vote have decreased a lot in the last elections. Until 2009, the 7 million voters mark was easily surpassed and nowadays that's just a mirage.
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« Reply #177 on: May 21, 2023, 09:51:41 AM »

Turnout update: Until 5pm, 48.8% of voters had already cast a ballot.

Looks like the pre crisis period of 70%+ turnout are long gone.  I guess the crisis plus economic contraction turned off a bunch of voters from the process. 

Maybe the final turnout will be similar with the 2019 one, we'll see. I believe that in the past, voting was mandatory but there were no real penalties for not voting. Nowadays, I believe that was revoked and, of course, the last decade events have taken a tool in the electorate's view of the political system and class.

Let's not forget that the number of registered voters is grossly inflated. There are people who have died five and ten years ago but their names still haven't been purged from the voter rolls.

Indeed, but the numbers of voters turning out to vote have decreased a lot in the last elections. Until 2009, the 7 million voters mark was easily surpassed and nowadays that's just a mirage.

You wouldn't believe the partisan fervor this country experienced from the 70's to the mid-90's.
Now people are much cooler when it comes to politics.
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« Reply #178 on: May 21, 2023, 09:54:37 AM »

Turnout update: Until 5pm, 48.8% of voters had already cast a ballot.

Looks like the pre crisis period of 70%+ turnout are long gone.  I guess the crisis plus economic contraction turned off a bunch of voters from the process. 

Maybe the final turnout will be similar with the 2019 one, we'll see. I believe that in the past, voting was mandatory but there were no real penalties for not voting. Nowadays, I believe that was revoked and, of course, the last decade events have taken a tool in the electorate's view of the political system and class.

Let's not forget that the number of registered voters is grossly inflated. There are people who have died five and ten years ago but their names still haven't been purged from the voter rolls.

Indeed, but the numbers of voters turning out to vote have decreased a lot in the last elections. Until 2009, the 7 million voters mark was easily surpassed and nowadays that's just a mirage.

You wouldn't believe the partisan fervor this country experienced from the 70's to the mid-90's.
Now people are much cooler when it comes to politics.

Of course. I saw videos of the rallies of both PASOK and ND in the 80's, 90's even in the early 2000's and they were massive and it was clear the fervor and excitement from both sides.
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« Reply #179 on: May 21, 2023, 10:01:40 AM »

One hour until polls close and exit polls are released.
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« Reply #180 on: May 21, 2023, 10:10:52 AM »

Perhaps I am dyslexic because I just realized the leader of Syriza is named Tsipras and not Tspiras.
Oh wow I too also just realized this. I had always pronounced it Tspiras in my head.
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« Reply #181 on: May 21, 2023, 10:13:33 AM »


Seems like they didn't unite to form M-L KKE KKE (m-l) this time? Must've been their vast ideological differences, lol.
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« Reply #182 on: May 21, 2023, 10:27:46 AM »

If ND wins again, how long until they ban PASOK and SYRIZA?
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« Reply #183 on: May 21, 2023, 11:00:51 AM »

Exit poll:

36.0-40.0% ND
25.0-29.0% Syriza
  9.5-12.5% PASOK
    6.0-8.0% KKE
    3.5-5.5% EL
    2.5-4.5% MeRA25
    2.2-4.2% PE

121 ND
  86 Syriza
  35 PASOK
  22 KKE
  15 EL
  11 MeRA25
  10 PE
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« Reply #184 on: May 21, 2023, 11:10:01 AM »

So repeat elections it is.
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« Reply #185 on: May 21, 2023, 11:13:56 AM »

Yep. 2 July is the most widely expected date for the repeat election.
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« Reply #186 on: May 21, 2023, 11:27:37 AM »

Question: Looking at previous election results, why are KKE so strong in the islands?
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« Reply #187 on: May 21, 2023, 11:42:07 AM »

Every communist party on the ballot today.
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« Reply #188 on: May 21, 2023, 11:45:05 AM »

Question: Looking at previous election results, why are KKE so strong in the islands?

Tradition.
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« Reply #189 on: May 21, 2023, 11:48:04 AM »

Question: Looking at previous election results, why are KKE so strong in the islands?

Tradition.

Doesn't the civil war be one of the reasons for it? I don't know, just asking.
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« Reply #190 on: May 21, 2023, 11:52:33 AM »

Question: Looking at previous election results, why are KKE so strong in the islands?

Tradition.

Doesn't the civil war be one of the reasons for it? I don't know, just asking.

Yes.
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« Reply #191 on: May 21, 2023, 12:01:53 PM »

So far, only district results are being published. But, you know it's bad for Syriza when, with the current counting, the whole of Crete is painted with ND blue.
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« Reply #192 on: May 21, 2023, 12:04:26 PM »

Based on initial results does it look like PE will cross the 3% threshold?
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« Reply #193 on: May 21, 2023, 12:11:20 PM »

Based on initial results does it look like PE will cross the 3% threshold?

I would say probably, with the precincts so far counted in both Athens and Thessaloniki, PE is polling at around 3-4%. But, it's still early and we don't have a nationwide picture yet.
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« Reply #194 on: May 21, 2023, 12:15:48 PM »

Updated exit poll:

Exit poll:

37.5-41.5% ND
23.5-27.5% Syriza
11.5-12.5% PASOK
    6.5-7.5% KKE
    4.3-5.3% EL
    2.5-3.5% MeRA25
    2.5-3.5% PE
    2.5-3.5% NIKH
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« Reply #195 on: May 21, 2023, 12:17:49 PM »

So far, only district results are being published. But, you know it's bad for Syriza when, with the current counting, the whole of Crete is painted with ND blue.

PASOK is doing very well there, they've overtaken SYRIZA in two of the four districts. Not too surprising that they've done well there but still interesting.
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« Reply #196 on: May 21, 2023, 12:19:56 PM »
« Edited: May 21, 2023, 12:24:39 PM by Mike88 »

So far, only district results are being published. But, you know it's bad for Syriza when, with the current counting, the whole of Crete is painted with ND blue.

PASOK is doing very well there, they've overtaken SYRIZA in two of the four districts. Not too surprising but still interesting.

Indeed. With the current trends, PASOK could only poll behind Syriza in Chania. In Heraklion, both are neck and neck.

And in several rural districts, PASOK and Syriza are quite close. PASOK is even leading Syriza in a few, so far, of course.
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« Reply #197 on: May 21, 2023, 12:31:26 PM »

So far, only district results are being published. But, you know it's bad for Syriza when, with the current counting, the whole of Crete is painted with ND blue.

PASOK is doing very well there, they've overtaken SYRIZA in two of the four districts. Not too surprising that they've done well there but still interesting.

PASOK is doing amazing in rural districts. In many of them it has overtaken SYRIZA for second place.
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« Reply #198 on: May 21, 2023, 12:41:28 PM »

Finally, a nationwide tally. 30.5% counted

41.1% ND
20.1% Syriza
12.7% PASOK
  6.7% KKE
  4.5% EL
  2.9% NIKH
  2.6% PE
  2.3% MeRA25
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« Reply #199 on: May 21, 2023, 12:45:04 PM »

So far, only district results are being published. But, you know it's bad for Syriza when, with the current counting, the whole of Crete is painted with ND blue.

PASOK is doing very well there, they've overtaken SYRIZA in two of the four districts. Not too surprising that they've done well there but still interesting.

PASOK is doing amazing in rural districts. In many of them it has overtaken SYRIZA for second place.
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