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« Reply #400 on: June 13, 2021, 08:10:34 AM »

UWS,
Biden lost Florida not because of the Hispanics. He lost it because African-Americans in South Florida did not turn out in the Numbers Democrats expected.

Demings doesn't create a huge amount of enthusiasm among AA in FL.

They needed someone like Obama or Gillum again!

She would be the first black female senator from FL, and first black senator from FL, correct? So I don't believe that

This analysis is so superficial

how is it superficial? what i'm saying is just like Obama getting record black turnout in 2008. when voters see a candidate in themselves, who has never done it before, they are usually more often to feel excited about that candidate. Demings would be a history making candidate in FL, so why wouldn't she excite at least a chunk of black voters?

Saying that black voters will be energized to vote for someone because they are black is the definition of superficial analysis

you're really watering down what i said and leaving out a lot of context so i'm not going to bother with this conversation anymore
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« Reply #401 on: June 13, 2021, 08:40:18 AM »

Black voters are more optimistic among people who aren’t career politicians. Obama and Gillum were freshmen political figures and weren’t career politicians, that is unlike Demings. That’s why Hillary and Biden didn’t create such enthusiasm.
Obama had been in elected office for a decade before running for President. Gillum had been an elected official in Tallahassee for even longer. Demings ran for office in the first time in 2012 and recorded her first win in 2016 — by any measure, she is less of a "career politician" than either Obama or Gillum.

Complete agreement here. Also, unfortunately the term "career politician" often is associated with negative stereotypes when actually a certain amount of experience in elected or appointed office is a positive attribute. Politics is one of the few professions this has become a liability. That's ain't the case elsewhere; nobody would want treatment from a doctor with no experience, nobody would take flight with a pilot that has never landed a plane.
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« Reply #402 on: June 14, 2021, 12:02:15 PM »

Black voters are more optimistic among people who aren’t career politicians. Obama and Gillum were freshmen political figures and weren’t career politicians, that is unlike Demings. That’s why Hillary and Biden didn’t create such enthusiasm.
Obama had been in elected office for a decade before running for President. Gillum had been an elected official in Tallahassee for even longer. Demings ran for office in the first time in 2012 and recorded her first win in 2016 — by any measure, she is less of a "career politician" than either Obama or Gillum.

Complete agreement here. Also, unfortunately the term "career politician" often is associated with negative stereotypes when actually a certain amount of experience in elected or appointed office is a positive attribute. Politics is one of the few professions this has become a liability. That's ain't the case elsewhere; nobody would want treatment from a doctor with no experience, nobody would take flight with a pilot that has never landed a plane.

Experience only works if one keeps up-to-date.

Politics is simply one profession where that quiet part gets read out loud. A pilot that never learned digital controls is a gone pilot, a doctor using chemotherapy as liberally as the 60's is doomed to malpractice suits, and so on and so on.
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« Reply #403 on: June 14, 2021, 12:29:31 PM »

I am rooting for Val but I would not put one nickel in this race
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« Reply #404 on: June 15, 2021, 01:08:46 AM »

LOL after the Trump clown show for 4 years I think "career politician" is a badge of honor for many voters, black voters included.
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« Reply #405 on: June 15, 2021, 03:28:41 AM »

This state is definitely wave insurence and we will see about wave insurence in a Pandemic
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« Reply #406 on: June 15, 2021, 03:57:49 AM »
« Edited: June 15, 2021, 03:57:37 PM by UWS »

LOL after the Trump clown show for 4 years I think "career politician" is a badge of honor for many voters, black voters included.

Tell that to 9-term congressman Dan Lipinski.
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« Reply #407 on: June 15, 2021, 07:33:54 AM »

I am rooting for Val but I would not put one nickel in this race
Wise choice.
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« Reply #408 on: June 15, 2021, 08:57:40 AM »

I am rooting for Val but I would not put one nickel in this race

But Rs are down 9 in generic ballot and have insurrection behind them? Why doesn't OC believe in blue waves? 😝🌊🌊🌊
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« Reply #409 on: June 15, 2021, 09:54:06 AM »

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rubio-demings-2022-showdown-could-become-most-expensive-senate-race-ever.amp
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« Reply #410 on: June 15, 2021, 01:53:52 PM »


Not that it matters much for the outcome. Jaime Harrison raised unprecedented amounts of money for the 2020 senate election and still couldn't even crack the Republicans' 54% freiwall in South Carolina.
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« Reply #411 on: June 15, 2021, 02:04:24 PM »

That's because the Rs have a Supermajority in the State Legislature
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« Reply #412 on: June 15, 2021, 02:55:58 PM »


Not that it matters much for the outcome. Jaime Harrison raised unprecedented amounts of money for the 2020 senate election and still couldn't even crack the Republicans' 54% freiwall in South Carolina.

Citizens United has turned out to have far less of an impact upon electoral outcomes then had initially been feared. Money doesn't always buy elections, and money cannot overcome partisan conditions that are very antagonistic to one party or the other.
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« Reply #413 on: June 15, 2021, 04:59:43 PM »


Not that it matters much for the outcome. Jaime Harrison raised unprecedented amounts of money for the 2020 senate election and still couldn't even crack the Republicans' 54% freiwall in South Carolina.

Citizens United has turned out to have far less of an impact upon electoral outcomes then had initially been feared. Money doesn't always buy elections, and money cannot overcome partisan conditions that are very antagonistic to one party or the other.

Citizens United increased partisan polarization. In that respect, it has helped Republicans.
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« Reply #414 on: June 15, 2021, 10:53:29 PM »


Not that it matters much for the outcome. Jaime Harrison raised unprecedented amounts of money for the 2020 senate election and still couldn't even crack the Republicans' 54% freiwall in South Carolina.

Citizens United has turned out to have far less of an impact upon electoral outcomes then had initially been feared. Money doesn't always buy elections, and money cannot overcome partisan conditions that are very antagonistic to one party or the other.

Citizens United increased partisan polarization. In that respect, it has helped Republicans.

Partisan polarization was on the rise long before Citizens United was handed down. I'd say that we can trace it to the rise of the Religious Right in the 1970s, the Republican Revolution of 1994, and the rise of both talk radio and Fox News.
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« Reply #415 on: June 16, 2021, 05:43:52 AM »

I find this incredibly smart & interesting. Dems need to start fighting fire with fire on FB.

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« Reply #416 on: June 16, 2021, 08:03:47 AM »

Goodbye Rubio
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« Reply #417 on: July 08, 2021, 12:03:01 AM »

I find it hilarious that what may be the most expensive senate race in 2022 is one that probably won't even be that competitive. Rubio will be fine.
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« Reply #418 on: July 08, 2021, 11:16:18 AM »

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« Reply #419 on: July 08, 2021, 11:28:02 AM »

Yeah, McGrath and Harrison outraised McConnell and Graham too.
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« Reply #420 on: July 08, 2021, 02:33:38 PM »


tbh the Rubio number is more impressive than the Demings numbers
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« Reply #421 on: July 08, 2021, 02:45:42 PM »

I won't donate another nickel to Ds they raise so much money but again, just like last time they can't give us another stimulus check and people STILL NEED HELP

WBROOKS AND LANDSLIDE LYNDON SAID HEGAR WAS GONNA BEAT CORNYN ABD DEMINGS IS 20 PTS BEHIND, SHE ISN'T AHEAD

DS ARE GONNA PERFORM WHERE BIDEN APPROVALS ARE AND HIS APPROVALS IN RASSY ARE 50/49% NOT ENOUGH TO WIN FL
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« Reply #422 on: July 08, 2021, 02:50:03 PM »

Yeah, McGrath and Harrison outraised McConnell and Graham too.

Exactly, it likely won't change the overall outcome, but is at least a clear indication for energy on the ground. And this race will be more competitive than the two mentioned.
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« Reply #423 on: July 08, 2021, 03:17:50 PM »

I think Rubio is easily a substantial favorite but it's nice to see the narrative shift back towards sanity after the whole "Rubio is on track to literally win Miami-Dade" thing we've been suffering through recently
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« Reply #424 on: July 08, 2021, 03:26:55 PM »


tbh the Rubio number is more impressive than the Demings numbers

Not really, Demings just announced on June 9th. Those #s from her are literally 3 weeks of the quarter.
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